Opinion Why the White House Must Double Down on DEI in Education

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Define fascist?  

 

What is a hand up? 

 

I don't think some people understand DEI and what's happening. Here is the problem statement:

 

1) America has zero standards or quotas for immigrants, they will literally take anyone from anywhere including the children of illegal immigrants who again could be from anywhere.

 

2) The population is now a random mix of different races and ethnicities which all perform differently in school.

 

3) Universities are now faced with a problem: regardless of where you put the bar the student body will be majority white or asian and hardly any other races, virtually no blacks or Hispanics in particular.

 

4) Other schools have a similar problem, if the class it challenging enough for whites/asians it will exclude other races and they will get left behind.

 

5) Same as above more or less applies in hiring too.

 

America is now trapped because of their short sided immigration and integration policy. Do you exclude some races and foster and underclass or do you rig the game to include them? THIS is why multiculturalism fails and ruins countries.

 

America in the current form is totally <deleted> if you ask me. I don't see any way out of this trap now except separation.

 

[chondan]

It is very difficult for a white straight male to get a job in schools in MN, USA

[captain_shane]

18 hours ago, WDSmart said:

DEI is NOT "antithetical to the principles of meritocracy," a system in which people advance based on their merits or abilities. It IS antithetical to the principles of aristocracy, a system in which people advance based on their status or social position (like White males).

 

Just the opposite is true. If DEI does not continue and prevail, the hydra of White male supremacy will rise again (not that it ever was beheaded entirely).

What religion do you follow by chance? I have a pretty good idea what it is.

[WDSmart]

14 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Why should America be non-discriminatory? Americans have basically been invaded by immigrants who can't compete up to their standards and now the schools are bending the standards to accommodate them. This is an all out war on nature at this point and America will fail badly.

 

You can bend the rules all you want and give special privilege to certain races but all that will happen in the end is they will drive the averages of everyone down.

"...will drive the averages of everyone down" is, IMO, the key issue here. That is a completely right-wing, capitalistic complaint. I, as a left-wing, socialist, believe the goal of society should be to lift up the averages of everyone, not just those who are gifted. 

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, captain_shane said:

What religion do you follow by chance? I have a pretty good idea what it is.

I do not follow any religion. I am an agnostic, atheist, really. Is that what you thought? 

[xylophone]

Following on from the headline, this is great news and IMHO sanity has prevailed...........

 

"The decision by the Supreme Court that laws against sex-based discrimination should only apply to biological women will lead to a raft of changes. They are expected to include who can access single-sex NHS wards, which police officers can carry out strip searches, and who can join female teams in elite sport.

 

Previously, trans women were given the same rights as biological women, allowing them access to female-only spaces and groups. Although the judges said that trans women could not be discriminated against, the ruling means they will no longer be treated the same as people born female.

 

Judges unanimously ruled that the terms “woman” and “sex” in the 2010 Equality Act referred to biological sex, not the gender with which a person identifies.

 

The justices said that for the purpose of equality laws, transgender women were not legally women, even if they have a gender recognition certificate".

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

"...will drive the averages of everyone down" is, IMO, the key issue here. That is a completely right-wing, capitalistic complaint. I, as a left-wing, socialist, believe the goal of society should be to lift up the averages of everyone, not just those who are gifted. 

 

Well, sitting around the internet believing things doesn't yield results so all you can do is lower standards for everyone. It's literal cargo cult mentality to think you can lower standards for entry and the people admitted will now magically rise to the old standard. You left-wing, socialists will certainly wreck the country eventually if you keep doing this.

[UserC923]

Can I do like Uncle Trump? Will we be condemned again?

[WDSmart]

45 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Well, sitting around the internet believing things doesn't yield results so all you can do is lower standards for everyone. It's literal cargo cult mentality to think you can lower standards for entry and the people admitted will now magically rise to the old standard. You left-wing, socialists will certainly wreck the country eventually if you keep doing this.

No, we left-wing socialists, at least extremists like me, want to see the general public's standards rise. This includes both naturally born US citizens and immigrants from other countries, and it also applies to all people living in other countries. The way to do this is not to concentrate on the most advanced among us but on the least advanced. Raising their standards will raise the average for everyone, even if that means lowering the standards for those most advanced. 

This is a typical left/right divide, IMO, on how to approach society. I often refer to that in short by equating it to the difference in the first letter of a two-letter word.  The left wants to concentrate on the whole of society (WE), whereas the right wants to concentrate on the singled-out uppermost section of society (ME). 

[Mike_Hunt]

5 hours ago, WDSmart said:

"...will drive the averages of everyone down" is, IMO, the key issue here. That is a completely right-wing, capitalistic complaint. I, as a left-wing, socialist, believe the goal of society should be to lift up the averages of everyone, not just those who are gifted. 

You're a socialist?  You do know that socialism is a failure?

[rough diamond]

24 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

You're a socialist?  You do know that socialism is a failure?

Socialists know it doesn't work in the real world but they still believe in it and Utopia as ideals to be used in pointless arguments!

[WDSmart]

31 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

You're a socialist?  You do know that socialism is a failure?

Yes, I am a socialist. I do know that some countries that claimed to be socialist failed, but I'm hoping we (humans) can eventually evolve to where we can thrive in a socialist economic system. 🤞

Today, most countries have what is called a "Keynesian" economic system, which means they are part capitalism and part socialism. For example, in my home country, the USA, all services offered that start with "public" are socialistic systems, like public roads, public forests, public schools, public libraries, etc. The argument isn't so much whether we should have socialistic systems as what the ratio should be between capitalistic (private, entrepreneurial) and socialistic features.

And, of course, the ultimate goal is communism. 👍But that's a long, long way off and would require us (humans) to greatly reduce our greed and selfishness... 🙁

[rough diamond]

43 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

And, of course, the ultimate goal is communism.

Which of course has been a monumental failure around the world wherever it was tried with the deaths of millions in most of those failed Communist states/Countries.

It is even hard to think of the present day semi capitalist China as a truly Communist country!

[WDSmart]

39 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Which of course has been a monumental failure around the world wherever it was tried with the deaths of millions in most of those failed Communist states/Countries.

It is even hard to think of the present day semi capitalist China as a truly Communist country!

To my knowledge, no country has had a communist economy. China certainly doesn't. They call themselves communist, and we call them communist, but they aren't. If they were, everyone would have equal access to everything. There would be no money and no private ownership, and there certainly would not be any rich and poor people. All would be equal. 

[rough diamond]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

To my knowledge, no country has had a communist economy.

Then what so called "economy" did a "communist"  country like the ex USSR etc use?

[impulse]

8 hours ago, WDSmart said:

"...will drive the averages of everyone down" is, IMO, the key issue here. That is a completely right-wing, capitalistic complaint. I, as a left-wing, socialist, believe the goal of society should be to lift up the averages of everyone, not just those who are gifted. 

 

Sounds wonderful as a concept.  The problem, of course, is that we have 60 years of data saying it hasn't worked, in spite of costing $trillions of dollars, destroying minority communities and penalizing white guys. 

 

Listen to Thomas Sowell and you'll hear him rattle off statistic after statistic that show that Black folks were making better progress in the 40 years before the Great Society than the 60 years since.  We weren't there yet but getting there faster.  If they hadn't decided that certain minorities needed to be wards of the state, we may already be at full parity.

 

[Mike_Hunt]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I am a socialist. I do know that some countries that claimed to be socialist failed, but I'm hoping we (humans) can eventually evolve to where we can thrive in a socialist economic system. 🤞

Today, most countries have what is called a "Keynesian" economic system, which means they are part capitalism and part socialism. For example, in my home country, the USA, all services offered that start with "public" are socialistic systems, like public roads, public forests, public schools, public libraries, etc. The argument isn't so much whether we should have socialistic systems as what the ratio should be between capitalistic (private, entrepreneurial) and socialistic features.

And, of course, the ultimate goal is communism. 👍But that's a long, long way off and would require us (humans) to greatly reduce our greed and selfishness... 🙁

Name one prosperous socialist country. 

 

A "Keynesian" economic system has nothing to do with socialism. 

 

Public services are not socialism. 

 

You have no idea what socialism means. 

[mrwebb8825]

On 4/15/2025 at 7:08 PM, Social Media said:

New York’s State Education Department, for instance, announced it would not enforce the Trump administration’s order on DEI policies in public schools. This blatant defiance underscores the need for a stronger federal response.

I hope he puts those (words I can't type here but are still not strong enough) UNDER the prison.

 

"A half-dozen New York City school system employees took their children or grandchildren to Disney World, New Orleans and other destinations by exploiting a program intended for homeless students, investigators said in a report released this month.Sep 17, 2024"

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/17/nyregion/ny-schools-disney-homeless-students.html

 

This slime lives, breaths, procreates and teaches our children. 🥸

[captain_shane]

22 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I do not follow any religion. I am an agnostic, atheist, really. Is that what you thought? 

that was the second thought, yes. first thought was that you were jewish, since you're rabidly anti-white like they are.

[captain_shane]

19 hours ago, WDSmart said:

No, we left-wing socialists, at least extremists like me, want to see the general public's standards rise. This includes both naturally born US citizens and immigrants from other countries, and it also applies to all people living in other countries. The way to do this is not to concentrate on the most advanced among us but on the least advanced. Raising their standards will raise the average for everyone, even if that means lowering the standards for those most advanced. 

This is a typical left/right divide, IMO, on how to approach society. I often refer to that in short by equating it to the difference in the first letter of a two-letter word.  The left wants to concentrate on the whole of society (WE), whereas the right wants to concentrate on the singled-out uppermost section of society (ME). 

You left wing extremists lead to one thing every single time: mass slaughter. Your ideas are repugnant to the vast majority of people on earth, which requires you to brutally kill any opposition. 

[WDSmart]

21 hours ago, rough diamond said:

21 hours ago, WDSmart said:

To my knowledge, no country has had a communist economy.

Then what so called "economy" did a "communist"  country like the ex USSR etc use?

According to my research on the Internet, the USSR's economy was called a "Command Economy." See this link for more details... Soviet Union Economy: Summary & Type | StudySmarter

[WDSmart]

20 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Name one prosperous socialist country. 

 

A "Keynesian" economic system has nothing to do with socialism. 

 

Public services are not socialism. 

 

You have no idea what socialism means. 

There are no countries that have an exclusively socialist economy.

You may be right about a Keynesian economic system. I'm sure I've read that it was a mix of capitalism and socialism, but I couldn't find anything to support that online. The best I could come up with was a "mixed economic system," which is defined as a blend of capitalism and socialism. (Mixed Economic System: Characteristics, Examples, Pros & Cons) In any event, that's what the USA and most Western countries have.

Socialism is an economic system in which everyone contributes as much as they can, and the government meets everyone's individual needs as much as it can. 

[WDSmart]

6 hours ago, captain_shane said:

On 4/17/2025 at 10:14 AM, WDSmart said:

I do not follow any religion. I am an agnostic, atheist, really. Is that what you thought? 

that was the second thought, yes. first thought was that you were jewish, since you're rabidly anti-white like they are.

No, I'm not Jewish. In fact, with all that's happened over there in the past couple of years, I'm beginning to be anti-Jewish. 

And, I'm White and am not anti-White. I'm pro-social justice. 

[WDSmart]

6 hours ago, captain_shane said:

On 4/17/2025 at 1:51 PM, WDSmart said:

No, we left-wing socialists, at least extremists like me, want to see the general public's standards rise. This includes both naturally born US citizens and immigrants from other countries, and it also applies to all people living in other countries. The way to do this is not to concentrate on the most advanced among us but on the least advanced. Raising their standards will raise the average for everyone, even if that means lowering the standards for those most advanced. 

This is a typical left/right divide, IMO, on how to approach society. I often refer to that in short by equating it to the difference in the first letter of a two-letter word.  The left wants to concentrate on the whole of society (WE), whereas the right wants to concentrate on the singled-out uppermost section of society (ME). 

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You left wing extremists lead to one thing every single time: mass slaughter. Your ideas are repugnant to the vast majority of people on earth, which requires you to brutally kill any opposition. 

I have no idea where you ever got the idea that I was suggesting "mass slaughter" or "to brutally kill any opposition." That's just not the case.

 

I'm in favor of democracy, or at least a democratic republic style of government, like the USA has now. I am also in favor of a more socialist economy and government-sponsored social efforts designed to raise the living standards of those who now have a low standard of living, even if it lowers the living standards of those who now have a high standard of living.

[Lacessit]

On 4/17/2025 at 4:22 PM, rough diamond said:

Socialists know it doesn't work in the real world but they still believe in it and Utopia as ideals to be used in pointless arguments!

Socialism works very well in Scandinavian countries.

 

In Australia, we have had leftist/socialist governments since Federation. They are the ones bringing in the major reforms.

 

Two years ago. I had one year's worth of inhibitor medication. It cost me AUD 100.

 

In America, the same course of medication would have cost USD 70,000.

 

Which is why I think Americans, with their rabid Big Pharma setting whatever prices they want, are <deleted> in the head.

[captain_shane]

15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I have no idea where you ever got the idea that I was suggesting "mass slaughter" or "to brutally kill any opposition." That's just not the case.

 

I'm in favor of democracy, or at least a democratic republic style of government, like the USA has now. I am also in favor of a more socialist economy and government-sponsored social efforts designed to raise the living standards of those who now have a low standard of living, even if it lowers the living standards of those who now have a high standard of living.

Communism and socialism lead to mass slaughter. If you're unaware of that, you should educate yourself. Maybe start with our neighbor cambodia.

[WDSmart]

2 hours ago, captain_shane said:

Communism and socialism lead to mass slaughter. If you're unaware of that, you should educate yourself. Maybe start with our neighbor cambodia.

I don't have to go to a neighbor to find a country that now promotes capitalism, which did so after a mass slaughter. How about what the founders of the US did to the native Indians?