U.S. intelligence contradicts Trump’s justification for mass deportations

[Dan O]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

Is that coming from the same intelligence knobs that said the laptop was a Russkie fake?

 

Because they already shot their credibility bolt.

 

 

HAHAHAH nope. Trump fired all those guys so its trumps own staffing replacements

[candide]

27 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Remember 10% for the Big Guy?

 

That's not enough to convict, but it sure is incriminating.  Enough to subpoena the bank records that were enough, had he not been an old guy with a bad memory.

Come on! Not that debunked B.S. again! 

 

It was a question, asking whether the big guy would invest in a share of a JV that was to be created.  An offer which was declined in another message in the laptop.

 

In the agreement about the JV, Joe Biden was not mentioned

https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Oneida-Term-Shete-May-16.pdf

 

The JV was ultimately not created. Confirmed by testimonies during the failed GOP committee investigation. Thank you Comer! 

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Come on! Not that debunked B.S. again! 

 

It was a question, asking whether the big guy would invest in a share of a JV that was to be created.  An offer which was declined in another message in the laptop.

 

The JV was ultimately not created. Confirmed by testimonies during the failed

Oh boy🤣

[impulse]

16 minutes ago, Dan O said:

HAHAHAH nope. Trump fired all those guys so its trumps own staffing replacements

 

He's only 100 days into cleaning a very rotten house.

 

[candide]

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Oh boy🤣

In other words you have nothing!

 

The JV agreement has been added to my edited post. You can check that Joe Biden is not among the intended shareholders.

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Oh boy

 

He's conflating "debunked" with "squelched".  A common lefty tactic.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Google is your friend, issue covered by a number of credible media outlets e.gt.

 

 A new U.S. intelligence assessment found no coordination between Tren de Aragua and the Venezuelan government, contradicting statements that Trump administration officials have made to justify their invocation of the Alien Enemies Act and deporting Venezuelan migrants, according to U.S. officials.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-intelligence-contradicts-trump-claims-linking-gang-venezuelan-120935126

So why not post a link which is not behind a paywall in the OP?

 

I am surprised America has any intelligence left after the DOGE pogroms.

[Mike_Hunt]

9 hours ago, simple1 said:

The determination is the most comprehensive assessment to date undercutting the president’s rationale for deporting suspected gang members without due process.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/17/us-intelligence-tren-de-aragua-deportations-trump/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert

 

 

 

WDMs in Iraq ring a bell?

[Mike_Hunt]

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So why not post a link which is not behind a paywall in the OP?

 

I am surprised America has any intelligence left after the DOGE pogroms.

 

You should not comment on topics you don't understand. 

[frank83628]

6 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Grab any straw for deflection....

How is that deflection? 51 'sources' claimed the laptop was russian disinformation... now your thread is quoting 'intelligence sources'..... and you expect people to believe them now when they lied before?

[candide]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

He's conflating "debunked" with "squelched".  A common lefty tactic.

In other words, you also have nothing! 

[candide]

34 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

WDMs in Iraq ring a bell?

https://www.npr.org/2003/07/15/1337947/analyst-cheney-pressured-cia-on-iraq-arms-intelligence

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You mean HRC?

 

I suspect anyone with a few working brain cells knows the "rigged election" is the one that has been blah blah blahed about by trump and the maga mob for years...remember that one where trump refused to accept the results and tried to foment a coup to illegally stay in power...remember when his followers were chanting hang mike pence?  remember that one with 60 court cases and several recounts and investigations in state after state mostly all done by republicans that over and over found no evidence of any rigging?  remember that one where trump orchestrated fake electors to try and over turn the election?  remember that one where trump refused to concede, refused to meet with the real winner and has whined about it pretty much non stop for going on 5 years now?  

 

Oh but u must be talking about HRC who called trump the very night of the election and congratulated him and that was the end of that.

 

Have a another glass of the cult kool aid and don't forget to harp on hunters laptop as well.

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[Magictoad]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Would you also support the Northern grooming gangs in the UK?

Because they are Labour Party voters. Duh! And linked to powerful religious groups. Do keep up!

[simple1]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

How is that deflection? 51 'sources' claimed the laptop was russian disinformation... now your thread is quoting 'intelligence sources'..... and you expect people to believe them now when they lied before?

 

Deflection 'cause OP is in reference to trump family, not Biden's

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Deflection 'cause OP is in reference to trump family, not Biden's

Yes, but the thread is referring to 'us intelligence' the same US intelligence that were proven to have lied about the laptop, same intelligence that lied about WMDs....do you ever question anything you're told or just believe absolutely everything.

[frank83628]

15 hours ago, pomchop said:

I suspect anyone with a few working brain cells knows the "rigged election" is the one that has been blah blah blahed about by trump and the maga mob for years...remember that one where trump refused to accept the results and tried to foment a coup to illegally stay in power...remember when his followers were chanting hang mike pence?  remember that one with 60 court cases and several recounts and investigations in state after state mostly all done by republicans that over and over found no evidence of any rigging?  remember that one where trump orchestrated fake electors to try and over turn the election?  remember that one where trump refused to concede, refused to meet with the real winner and has whined about it pretty much non stop for going on 5 years now?  

 

Oh but u must be talking about HRC who called trump the very night of the election and congratulated him and that was the end of that.

 

Have a another glass of the cult kool aid and don't forget to harp on hunters laptop as well.

Totally brainwashed. Media can easily manipulate those that lack critical thinking

[candide]

56 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Totally brainwashed. Media can easily manipulate those that lack critical thinking

In particular Russian media! 

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

In particular Russian media! 

I doubt you've ever seen any

[candide]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I doubt you've ever seen any

I don't doubt you've seen many. 

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, candide said:

I don't doubt you've seen many. 

RT is the only one I watch when needed. But you don't need to watch much really, what ever you post herefrom the msm... the truth  is the opposite

[candide]

40 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

RT is the only one I watch when needed. But you don't need to watch much really, what ever you post herefrom the msm... the truth  is the opposite

Sure! The truth comes from a Russian media controlled by the government! 

[frank83628]

58 minutes ago, candide said:

Sure! The truth comes from a Russian media controlled by the government! 

As opposed to the truth coming from USAID, MIC and big pharma funded and democrat backing media