56 minutes ago, TedG said:

That does the video prove?  

 

It challenges the CGI-fueled narrative pushed by NASA.

 

If you're not familiar with how NASA creates what is, for all intents and purposes, a fiction for the general public to consume, I recommend acquainting yourself with  NASA designer Robert Simmon's statements, namely with regard to the 'Blue Marble Earth':

 

The last time anyone took a photograph from above low Earth orbit that showed an entire hemisphere (one side of a globe) was in 1972 during Apollo 17. NASA’s Earth Observing System (EOS) satellites were designed to give a check-up of Earth’s health. By 2002, we finally had enough data to make a snap shot of the entire Earth. So we did. The hard part was creating a flat map of the Earth’s surface with four months’ of satellite data. Reto Stockli, now at the Swiss Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology, did much of this work. Then we wrapped the flat map around a ball. My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. That ball became the famous Blue Marble.

 

https://www.nasa.gov/people-of-nasa/goddard-people/robert-simmon-aka-mr-blue-marble/

 

In more colloquial terms, it's all a load of BS.

 

There is a lot of footage of the so-called 'planets' showing what clearly appears to be bodies of a sonoluminescent nature. Take Venus, for example. Here is NASA's (mediocre, I should add, I could do better with GIMP) computer-generated representation of it:

 

 

Here is actual footage (plenty of other examples available):

 

 

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I still contributed the concept of the theory of the sun's rotation on the flat earth, which I think is interesting. And the theory is consistent with weather patterns we observe in thailand and norther countries like russia. So I don't think my contribution was useless noise. 

 

No, it wasn't useless noise. You are exercising common sense and given that this is the most controversial topic of all, I note that you have the mental ability to take a step backwards to look at things objectively. This is a rare faculty, I encourage you to pursue in this direction.

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I understand you well, kwilco.

it is a hallmark of all conspiracy theorists that they have no idea how littl they understand

21 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It challenges the CGI-fueled narrative pushed by NASA.

 

If you're not familiar with how NASA creates what is, for all intents and purposes, a fiction for the general public to consume, I recommend acquainting yourself with  NASA designer Robert Simmon's statements, namely with regard to the 'Blue Marble Earth':

 

The last time anyone took a photograph from above low Earth orbit that showed an entire hemisphere (one side of a globe) was in 1972 during Apollo 17. NASA’s Earth Observing System (EOS) satellites were designed to give a check-up of Earth’s health. By 2002, we finally had enough data to make a snap shot of the entire Earth. So we did. The hard part was creating a flat map of the Earth’s surface with four months’ of satellite data. Reto Stockli, now at the Swiss Federal Office of Meteorology and Climatology, did much of this work. Then we wrapped the flat map around a ball. My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. That ball became the famous Blue Marble.

 

https://www.nasa.gov/people-of-nasa/goddard-people/robert-simmon-aka-mr-blue-marble/

 

In more colloquial terms, it's all a load of BS.

 

There is a lot of footage of the so-called 'planets' showing what clearly appears to be bodies of a sonoluminescent nature. Take Venus, for example. Here is NASA's (mediocre, I should add, I could do better with GIMP) computer-generated representation of it:

 

 

Here is actual footage (plenty of other examples available):

 

 

The Nikon p900 has a 1/2 inch sensor with a 353 mm lens shooting at f36 at the far end shooting through the atmosphere.  It’s no wonder the stacked photos look funny

18 minutes ago, kwilco said:

it is a hallmark of all conspiracy theorists that they have no idea how littl they understand

 

Okay, kwilco.

1 minute ago, TedG said:

The Nikon p900 has a 1/2 inch sensor with a 353 mm lens shooting at f36 at the far end shooting through the atmosphere.  It’s no wonder the stacked photos look funny

 

So what characteristics would be required for the footage to be relevant?

8 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

So what characteristics would be required for the footage to be relevant?

A Canon 800mm 5.6 with a 2x converter on a proper tripod.  Which would get a good photo of the moon.

18 minutes ago, TedG said:

A Canon 800mm 5.6 with a 2x converter on a proper tripod.  

 

Okay, here goes. How would one explain the 'shaky' aspect of these bodies, as if they were sonoluminescent?

 

 

 

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

NASA brainwashing is the most difficult to treat.

 

So Elon Musk's plan to terraform and colonize Mars is another hoax of the century? 

 

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Okay, here goes. How would one explain the 'shaky' aspect of these bodies, as if they were sonoluminescent?

 

 

 

The shaky aspect is caused by a huge lens pointed at a distant object.   Have you ever used a super telephoto lens?

14 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

So you have dumb friends.

 

I dont hang out with many people much anymore.

If you think too much in a group, you will be shut down and you won't be able to hear yourself think anymore after a while. Just like on here. 

Solitude is good for personal growth. 

 

On 4/19/2025 at 8:52 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Never gave the moon landing a thought till recently.  Was it faked?

No human has ever walked on the moon.

 

The truth is; that in the  early 1960s, the US was considerably behind the Ruskies in space exploration. The west's military didn't like it, and spent 10 years becoming space top doggie. Once it established that it was top dog, it put space development aside and concentrated on other stuff.

 

There was a rumour that Elvis was there. There was also a pic of a WW2 bomber plane on the surface. That has been deftly sidelined by the authorities. The Daily Sport newspaper in the UK, suggested that Elvis had been on the plane. IMO, that is nonsense.

 

It's on record that the Ruskies, or USSR as it was then, said that no human would visit the moon for 100 years. That will be 2069. Coming soon. Can't wait.

 

There is also an interesting thing occurring. Elon Musk is looking at bamboo as the structural element in his Mars project. Why? It is light and has a bending factor of 69. Also fireproof on Mars. Unless someone sets light to it that is. And where does the best bamboo grow? We all know where that is. Gonna put one country well and truly on the map.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No human has ever walked on the moon.

 

The truth is; that in the  early 1960s, the US was considerably behind the Ruskies in space exploration. The west's military didn't like it, and spent 10 years becoming space top doggie. Once it established that it was top dog, it put space development aside and concentrated on other stuff.

 

There was a rumour that Elvis was there. There was also a pic of a WW2 bomber plane on the surface. That has been deftly sidelined by the authorities. The Daily Sport newspaper in the UK, suggested that Elvis had been on the plane. IMO, that is nonsense.

 

It's on record that the Ruskies, or USSR as it was then, said that no human would visit the moon for 100 years. That will be 2069. Coming soon. Can't wait.

 

There is also an interesting thing occurring. Elon Musk is looking at bamboo as the structural element in his Mars project. Why? It is light and has a bending factor of 69. Also fireproof on Mars. Unless someone sets light to it that is. And where does the best bamboo grow? We all know where that is. Gonna put one country well and truly on the map.

 

 

You, anti-everything, what a sad life to live. Is it because you personally never achieved anything...............😒

And hey, I doubt you will reach 2069, however much grass you eat.................🤒

9 minutes ago, transam said:

You, anti-everything, what a sad life to live. Is it because you personally never achieved anything...............😒

And hey, I doubt you will reach 2069, however much grass you eat.................🤒

No trans, you are not correct. I'm not anti-everything.

 

I'm not anti-woman. Some are OK; if they do as requested without too much moaning.

 

I'm not anti-religion. No Sir. Don't bite the hand that feeds yer.

 

I'm not anti-wealth. It is true that I gave all my billions away in pursuit of nature.

 

However; I am anti; WHO, WTO, CDC, FDA, MHRA, EMA, House of Lords, hurting kids, vaccines, authorities who abuse their power, warmongers.

 

I can even suffer fools.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

No trans, you are not correct. I'm not anti-everything.

 

I'm not anti-woman. Some are OK; if they do as requested without too much moaning.

 

I'm not anti-religion. No Sir. Don't bite the hand that feeds yer.

 

I'm not anti-wealth. It is true that I gave all my billions away in pursuit of nature.

 

However; I am anti; WHO, WTO, CDC, FDA, MHRA, EMA, House of Lords, hurting kids, vaccines, authorities who abuse their power, warmongers.

 

I can even suffer fools.

Cherry-pick, as expected, to dodge, though it is a shame you don't include yourself in your anti list..........

 

Are you a communist, by any chance...........?  🤔

12 minutes ago, transam said:

Cherry-pick, as expected, to dodge, though it is a shame you don't include yourself in your anti list..........

 

Are you a communist, by any chance...........?  🤔

Not a communist Trans Sir.

 

I belong to party nature; as we all do.

 

Nature rules!!! OK.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not a communist Trans Sir.

 

I belong to party nature; as we all do.

 

Nature rules!!! OK.

Yes it does, and you can't control it.......😷

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No human has ever walked on the moon.

 

The truth is; that in the  early 1960s, the US was considerably behind the Ruskies in space exploration. The west's military didn't like it, and spent 10 years becoming space top doggie. Once it established that it was top dog, it put space development aside and concentrated on other stuff.

 

There was a rumour that Elvis was there. There was also a pic of a WW2 bomber plane on the surface. That has been deftly sidelined by the authorities. The Daily Sport newspaper in the UK, suggested that Elvis had been on the plane. IMO, that is nonsense.

 

It's on record that the Ruskies, or USSR as it was then, said that no human would visit the moon for 100 years. That will be 2069. Coming soon. Can't wait.

 

There is also an interesting thing occurring. Elon Musk is looking at bamboo as the structural element in his Mars project. Why? It is light and has a bending factor of 69. Also fireproof on Mars. Unless someone sets light to it that is. And where does the best bamboo grow? We all know where that is. Gonna put one country well and truly on the map.

 

 

we need MORE conspiracies.

keep 'em coming!

 

Just to be clear...

Just now, kwilco said:

Just to be clear...

If you have a problem with this....you have a problem.

13 minutes ago, kwilco said:

If you have a problem with this....you have a problem.

They have all been debunked.

 

Moon landings - by Stiddle

Climate change - by Red

Evolution - by Mark

Spherical earth- Rattles is yer man

 

Next you are gonna tell me that JFK shot himself.

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Just to be clear...

 

they don't even know how the pyramids were built.

could have been aliens ... or could have been advanced civilizations that existed.

but advanced civilizations goes against evolution. 

people who want easy answers it's because it makes them feel like they are living in a safe and secure world. 

 

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

they don't even know how the pyramids were built.

could have been aliens ... or could have been advanced civilizations that existed.

but advanced civilizations goes against evolution…

Someday cats will say that aliens gave humans the internet to hasten their extinction… 😐

On 4/19/2025 at 3:52 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Never gave the moon landing a thought till recently.  Was it faked?

 

The documentary American Moon will answer your question. 'Conspiracy theory', of course.

 

 

Have you noticed how conspiracy theorists spend a lot of time attacking the messenger but never the message? I wonder why. That's rhetorical – conspiracy theorists obsess over the messenger because attacking people is easier than engaging with facts. The moment they look at the message itself, the whole story collapses. a pathetic combination of fallacious appeal to authority and cognitive dissonance 

7 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The documentary American Moon will answer your question. 'Conspiracy theory', of course.

 

 

This video is intended for those of us who are easily misled.

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No human has ever walked on the moon.

 

The truth is; that in the  early 1960s, the US was considerably behind the Ruskies in space exploration. The west's military didn't like it, and spent 10 years becoming space top doggie. Once it established that it was top dog, it put space development aside and concentrated on other stuff.

 

There was a rumour that Elvis was there. There was also a pic of a WW2 bomber plane on the surface. That has been deftly sidelined by the authorities. The Daily Sport newspaper in the UK, suggested that Elvis had been on the plane. IMO, that is nonsense.

 

It's on record that the Ruskies, or USSR as it was then, said that no human would visit the moon for 100 years. That will be 2069. Coming soon. Can't wait.

 

There is also an interesting thing occurring. Elon Musk is looking at bamboo as the structural element in his Mars project. Why? It is light and has a bending factor of 69. Also fireproof on Mars. Unless someone sets light to it that is. And where does the best bamboo grow? We all know where that is. Gonna put one country well and truly on the map.

 

 

This is utter BS.   

1 hour ago, TedG said:

This is utter BS.   

 I doubt if the conspiracy theorists have even watched this video – you need an attention span longer than a goldfish's....“American Moon” is what happens when someone with YouTube credentials tries to debunk an engineering achievement built by 400,000 people.
With O-level physics you can dismantle most of its claims — the film relies on fake experts, bad science, and viewers who can’t tell the difference between evidence and dramatic music.
Here’s the reality “American Moon” hopes you never Google:
We literally bounce lasers off Apollo mirrors today. Not NASA but independent observatories worldwide. Those retroreflectors didn’t teleport there.
Also 850+ pounds of Moon rocks have been analysed by scientists in dozens of countries for decades. They contain zero water, cosmic exposure signatures, and mineral structures and are impossible to fake. But conspiracy theorists are sure that the U.S. secretly fooled every geologist on Earth.
Even the Soviets who were desparately trying to beat the U.S., tracked the missions and congratulated them. If America had faked it, Moscow would’ve broadcast it 24/7. Instead? Silence….. basically they couldn’t because the landings happened.
LRO photos since 2009 show the landers, rovers, equipment, and even the astronauts’ footprints. But apparently NASA also bribed a spacecraft orbiting the Moon 40 years later. Incredible budget management. 
The movie’s favourite “photography anomalies”? All solved by, again, basic physics they rely on the audience not having studied even basic physics at school any 15 year old can verify this.
Flag “waving”? It had a crossbar and moved only from momentum in a vacuum.
No stars? Fast shutter speed + bright lunar surface = invisible stars. This is Photography 101.
Weird shadows? One sun + uneven terrain + reflective dust = shadows that don’t behave like a Hollywood studio. Are you even aware of how “dust” behaves in low gravity with no air???
Finally, the biggest joke of all:
To fake the Moon landings, 400,000 people across 20,000 contractors would have had to keep the same secret for 55 years. Including Putin, India and the Chinese
A 2016 PLOS ONE model shows a conspiracy that size would leak in under four years.
But “American Moon” expects us to believe:
NASA lied
the Soviets played along
every scientist was duped
every photo was forged
every engineer kept quiet
and a YouTuber finally cracked it with a slow-mo replay and spooky narration.
It’s not a documentary — it’s a masterclass in how little critical thinking some people apply once they’ve bought their first conspiracy and decide to collect the whole set. - “American Moon is what happens when someone fails O-level physics but still buys a camera.”
 

35 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I doubt if the conspiracy theorists have even watched this video – you need an attention span longer than a goldfish's....“American Moon” is what happens when someone with YouTube credentials tries to debunk an engineering achievement built by 400,000 people.

 

You obviously haven't watched it. You should… but you probably won't. The best you will do is pretend to have watched it by posting 'debunking' bullet points copied from Gemini AI.