Food for Thought > A Common Sense vaccine statement and a BS one...

[rumak]

On 4/21/2025 at 7:10 PM, Red Phoenix said:

So what you are actually saying is that you need a formal medical degree or qualification, to make common sense statements. 

Another BS one...

 

RP :   Common sense ;  is something that i do not think can be measured.  Also the "gut feeling"  that serves some people very well . 

 

There are many proverbs that are so profoundly true .  One that comes to mind when trying to present food for thought ideas is :    "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

[Stiddle Mump]

15 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

RP :   Common sense ;  is something that i do not think can be measured.  Also the "gut feeling"  that serves some people very well . 

 

There are many proverbs that are so profoundly true .  One that comes to mind when trying to present food for thought ideas is :    "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

True enough. To quote Marie Antoinette a few seconds before she lay her neck on the block.

 

''If I speak in a few moments. It is not from my heart.'' In french lingo of course.

 

The queen consort of Louis XVI of France. she was beheaded by guillotine, during the French Revolution on October 16, 1793.

[rumak]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are quite a few like that on the forum.

 

" He is full of anger and has a major superiority complex.  Fun to disagree with him and watch him lose his shhtt.  He starts every debate with some variation how stupid you are and then endless use of labels.  "

 

good on ya SM  ,  in the past i also was often on the vacation train.  As time went by I accepted that this forum has some good uses, and info,  but what could have been enjoyable interactions and sharing of opinions was just not gonna happen .  It is true, there are some pretty angry and abusive posters ... easiest to spot by their calling others idiots, of course.   Pretty funny,  that !

 

Then they want to debate !  Even funnier .   When it comes to the experimental shots and dangerous drugs... i leave that up to others .  Those who want to take em ,  let em knock themselves out .   I like to think that us non vaxxed are more like a support team for each other  hahaha  .  All still healthy, and as far as i know nobody even got sick !

 

[Stiddle Mump]

20 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

" He is full of anger and has a major superiority complex.  Fun to disagree with him and watch him lose his shhtt.  He starts every debate with some variation how stupid you are and then endless use of labels.  "

 

good on ya SM  ,  in the past i also was often on the vacation train.  As time went by I accepted that this forum has some good uses, and info,  but what could have been enjoyable interactions and sharing of opinions was just not gonna happen .  It is true, there are some pretty angry and abusive posters ... easiest to spot by their calling others idiots, of course.   Pretty funny,  that !

 

Then they want to debate !  Even funnier .   When it comes to the experimental shots and dangerous drugs... i leave that up to others .  Those who want to take em ,  let em knock themselves out .   I like to think that us non vaxxed are more like a support team for each other  hahaha  .  All still healthy, and as far as i know nobody even got sick !

 

Same here. Wife, daughter, wife's mother and me, all said 'no'. Three people died within months of the jabs being brought round the village. Yes! I kid you not. All documented on Owl's diary archives.

 

I'm reminded of the 2007 film Sublime. Can watch on YT.

 

Confusion! Lies! Medical errors. Poor guy. Trust in the white-coats? Dear me! No way!

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for that bit of wisdom Richard.

 

A virus, any viirus, has never been isolated and never been shown to cause disease.

 

Do you Sir, have a problem with the word 'isolation'? For sure virologists do. They follow Enders' 1954 procedures in principle to this day. Get some mucus/snot. Put it a petri dish. Mix in this. Add that. A bit more of this preservative. A little dye. Some molecular metal. Then starve the soup/mix.

 

Such an unintelligent argument, you make out this is a language issue with world isolation !!.. its nots, its a 'disinformation issue'...    Your information flies in the face of modern virology... 

 

If your information is so correct - why do you not have your on published papers, why are you not famed for 

'correcting' mainstream biology ?

 

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

Deterioration occurs!!

 

Ah see! That virus has shown its true self. Put the sample into the PCR and let's have a closer butchers. We have the code Sir; but not all of it. Put it into the computuer to fill in the missing parts. Eureka! a new variant.

 

It's all utter nonsense. 

 

I'll believe published and peer reviewed experts over a forum troll... 

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We are told that a person with covid can sneeze out a million viruses in one go. They only go as far as 2 metres however. Then they hit the invisible wall. Would it not be possible to capture some and isolate them? Of course not. Wouldn't want to let the cat out of the bag now would we?! Far better to prove their existence in the traditional Enders way. Keeps us in a job.

 

Nope - you've made up that 2 meters rubbish - such respiratory viruses can be spread as far as the 'water droplets' carry them...  there is no 'invisible wall'..  

 

Air samplers: Specialised devices (like bioaerosol samplers or impactors) can literally collect airborne particles - including viruses - when someone sneezes nearby. 

 

You keep making up these phantom arguments so you can refute them - its stupid.

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nature has the answers we seek.

 

You keep quoting that golden droplet of bo!!ox... what answers does nature have ? 

Natural acquired immunity ?...  Sure, that may work over millennia, but at the cost of millions - billions of lives.

 

 

[Magictoad]

It's Americans who fall for this anti vax rubbish. Mainly because they are susceptible to baseless threats and wild rumours. Also because their health care system is privatised so the costs of vaccination plays a part in their beliefs. POLIO caused terrible damage to children and adults until the vaccine wiped it out. MEASLES caused terrible damage to children and adults until it was eradicated by a vaccine. When I was growing up as a child in Manchester in Britain in the 60s I remember seeing these poor people in leg irons and leather strap. They were pitiful. I remember going for my vaccination as a child in a run down clinic in South Manchester. I remember being scared of the needle. But I was more scared of getting polio. We had the NHS in England then so important vaccination were free. Thank God. I believe in vaccinations 100%. People who preach against vaccines are sick and doing damage to our society.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

In another life - and not so long ago - I had suspension after suspension on TV/AN, for saying what I say now. 14 holidays in all. Now I'm here again, saying my bit. The times, they are a'changing.

 

I think is fair enough that you, Red and Rattlesnake get to say your thing without being censored - thats a primary facet of debate, but it needs to be carried out in the correct location... 

 

... this sub-forum itself is designed to give you a place to voice your opinions, whatever they maybe.. but to do so outside of the 'main forum' where such misinformation is inappropriate. 

 

Anyone reading or posting in this 'sub-forum' knows its the place to discuss conspiracies and other theories.

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

I believe in vaccinations 100%. People who preach against vaccines are sick and doing damage to our society.

That's OK bud. No problem if you believe in vaccines. 

 

I'm the other side. For me, vaxxes do not work. They are never safe or effective. And are 100% unnecessary.

 

A good book on this by Vernon Coleman;;; ''Anyone who tells you a vaccine is safe and effective is lying.''

 

If you ask the average white-coat, why do we need them, the one-word answer will be 'viruses'. And the question; 'what is in them?' will get you a shrug of the shoulders. Or a 'don't know; you got me there'.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. Vaccines do not sit pretty with nature.

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

That's OK bud. No problem if you believe in vaccines. 

 

I'm the other side. For me, vaxxes do not work. They are never safe or effective. And are 100% unnecessary.

 

A good book on this by Vernon Coleman;;; ''Anyone who tells you a vaccine is safe and effective is lying.''

 

If you ask the average white-coat, why do we need them, the one-word answer will be 'viruses'. And the question; 'what is in them?' will get you a shrug of the shoulders. Or a 'don't know; you got me there'.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. Vaccines do not sit pretty with nature.

 

 

Vernon Edward Coleman (born 1946) is an English conspiracy theorist and writer, who writes on topics related to human health, politics and animal welfare. He was formerly a general practitioner (GP) and newspaper columnist. Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories.......by the deep state working hand in glove with big pharma no doubt

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Vernon Edward Coleman (born 1946) is an English conspiracy theorist and writer, who writes on topics related to human health, politics and animal welfare. He was formerly a general practitioner (GP) and newspaper columnist. Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories.......by the deep state working hand in glove with big pharma no doubt

 

Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories...

 

why do the claims have to have been discredited by deep state working... why not by independent medical experts ???

 

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think is fair enough that you, Red and Rattlesnake get to say your thing without being censored - thats a primary facet of debate, but it needs to be carried out in the correct location... 

... this sub-forum itself is designed to give you a place to voice your opinions, whatever they maybe.. but to do so outside of the 'main forum' where such misinformation is inappropriate. 

Anyone reading or posting in this 'sub-forum' knows its the place to discuss conspiracies and other theories.

 

All three of us (Stiddle Mump, Rattlesnake and myself) paid the price during the last 3-4 yours of being censored on AN. with our posts being deleted and us getting frequent 'holidays' to repent the sin of speaking our mind. 

So, I am grateful that AseanNow has created this FreeSpeech zone, with no moderator content-interference. 

Of course, any stance that goes against the 'accepted narrative' from 'trustworthy sources' is still automatically considered a Conspiracy Theory at AN, so our Covid/vax/pandemic posts find themselves in the company of mystery threads genre 'Aliens Abducted My Stepmother'.  

 

[Airalee]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

our Covid/vax/pandemic posts find themselves in the company of mystery threads genre 'Aliens Abducted My Stepmother'.  

All by design

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

All three of us (Stiddle Mump, Rattlesnake and myself) paid the price during the last 3-4 yours of being censored on AN. with our posts being deleted and us getting frequent 'holidays' to repent the sin of speaking our mind. 

 

So, I am grateful that AseanNow has created this FreeSpeech zone, with no moderator content-interference. 

 

Agreed... You should be free to voice your full opinion in the right 'zone'...

 

8 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Of course, any stance that goes against the 'accepted narrative' from 'trustworthy sources' is still automatically considered a Conspiracy Theory at AN, so our Covid/vax/pandemic posts find themselves in the company of mystery threads genre 'Aliens Abducted My Stepmother'.  

 

Which is the ideal location IMO - Flat Earth, Faked Moonlandings, 9-11 Conspiracy, AntiVax...

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

42 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nope - you've made up that 2 meters rubbish - such respiratory viruses can be spread as far as the 'water droplets' carry them...  there is no 'invisible wall'.

Thanks for that Richard.

 

Actually in the US and UK it was 6 feet. In case your maths are not up to it; that's a bit less than 2 metres.

 

I can recall that white-coat on the English tv, saying that 6 people are allowed together, and must be 6 feet apart. There was another 6 he referred to. Can't quite recall that one. Something to do with how many pints could be bought/carried/drunk. Could be wrong there though. Dr Hilary Jones was his name.

[Stiddle Mump]

56 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Such an unintelligent argument, you make out this is a language issue with world isolation !!.. its nots, its a 'disinformation issue'...    Your information flies in the face of modern virology... 

 

If your information is so correct - why do you not have your on published papers, why are you not famed for 

'correcting' mainstream biology ?

Words in Science are very important Richard. That's why definitions of certain words change. Often to fit in with the white-coat narrative.

 

'Isolation' is one such important word. A virus has never been isolated. Growing them in a petri dish - even if that were possible - is not isolation. It is ingenious and certainly unscientific to say it is. In fact any paper that has stated they have isolated a virus, when they have not, is downright fraudulent.

 

As far as Stiddle Mump (me) is concerned. I have written plenty of essays on the subject of exercise physiology, energy delivery and lactate testing for athletes. And when I've been on stage, I've often been asked about vaccines. That naturally leads onto explanations of germs, viruses and nature.

 

If you knew where to look you could also see this chap on Question Time (BBC weekly tv programme) that looks a lot like I did 30 years ago.

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for that Richard.

 

Actually in the US and UK it was 6 feet. In case your maths are not up to it; that's a bit less than 2 metres.

 

That was a 'recommended social distancing' distance...       

 

Contextomy: You've taken a 'tid-bit' of information and manipulated it - it was simply are recommendation to 'reduce transmission' not a statement of the maximum distance a virus can travel. 

 

This is the issues with having such discussions with people such as yourself - you deliberately misinterpret information to twist the context to your favour.

 

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I can recall that white-coat on the English tv, saying that 6 people are allowed together, and must be 6 feet apart. There was another 6 he referred to. Can't quite recall that one. Something to do with how many pints could be bought/carried/drunk. Could be wrong there though. Dr Hilary Jones was his name.

 

Yes, there was certainly a degree of absurdity in the whole affair. The official narrative centred on reducing social interaction to limit transmission, while simultaneously preserving a semblance of normal life - hence the curious logic of allowing pub outings but in limited group numbers and only outside etc...

 

 

Frankly, the entire approach struck me as farcical, and I found myself disagreeing with much of it.

 

Take the testing regime, for instance: if COVID-19 was so contagious that simply sharing a room posed a risk, why was it necessary to jab a swab halfway to my brain just to detect it? That alone felt inconsistent.

 

And the distancing models, in my view, were flawed from the outset. Some of the so-called "concessions" to everyday life bordered on the ridiculous.

 

I also want to be clear:  this isn’t to say the virus wasn’t real, or that vulnerable groups didn’t need safeguarding, particularly in the early stages.

 

However, once it became evident that the fatality rate was significantly lower than initially projected — especially when compared with the dire predictions from Imperial College - I believe continuing the lockdowns and restrictions was not only unnecessary, but actively harmful to society.

 

The real issue, of course, was political. With the economy already severely wounded, any swift reversal would have looked like an admission of failure - a death-knell for those in power - a risk few politicians were willing to take. So instead, they doubled down, prioritising optics over outcomes.

[richard_smith237]

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Words in Science are very important Richard. That's why definitions of certain words change. Often to fit in with the white-coat narrative.

 

'Isolation' is one such important word. A virus has never been isolated. Growing them in a petri dish - even if that were possible - is not isolation. It is ingenious and certainly unscientific to say it is. In fact any paper that has stated they have isolated a virus, when they have not, is downright fraudulent.

 

Anyone with a basic grasp of language understands what isolation means. So when you claims a virus has "never been isolated," you’re not just contradicting common sense - you're also veering wildly from the consensus of virologists and infectious disease experts around the world.

 

In science, to isolate a virus means to extract it from a sample, separate it from other components (like cells, bacteria, or bodily fluids), and demonstrate that it can infect host cells in a lab setting (usually using a cell culture). This process confirms that the virus is both present and active.

 

You are hinging your misinformation on semantic games - you might claim, “The virus hasn’t been isolated in a completely pure form, free of all other matter,” which isn’t how isolation works in virology. Viruses can’t replicate on their own - they need a host cell. So isolating them almost always involves cell cultures (something else which you mentioned cannot be carried out), which conspiracy theorists such as yourself misuse to imply contamination or fraud.

But scientifically the virus is absolutely isolated and confirmed by electron microscopy, genetic sequencing, and infection assays.

 

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

As far as Stiddle Mump (me) is concerned. I have written plenty of essays on the subject of exercise physiology, energy delivery and lactate testing for athletes. And when I've been on stage, I've often been asked about vaccines. That naturally leads onto explanations of germs, viruses and nature.

 

If you knew where to look you could also see this chap on Question Time (BBC weekly tv programme) that looks a lot like I did 30 years ago.

 

Great - David Ike was also making TV appearances !!!

[Will B Good]

53 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories...

 

why do the claims have to have been discredited by deep state working... why not by independent medical experts ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was joking!!!

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

55 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Coleman's medical claims have been widely discredited and described as pseudoscientific conspiracy theories...

 

why do the claims have to have been discredited by deep state working... why not by independent medical experts ???

 

 

I was joking!!!

 

Ah... OK...     in that case... 

 

 

[xylophone]

 

4 hours ago, atpeace said:

Read a page or two of Xylophones content on his content page.  He is full of anger and has a major superiority complex.  Fun to disagree with him and watch him lose his shhtt.  He starts every debate with some variation how stupid you are and then endless use of labels.  He has put so many people on his ignore list, as he bragged, to create a fantasy world where he is the genius among fools.

Well, you couldn't be further from the truth with regards to being "full of anger" – – never was and never will be, although I do get annoyed when folks like you and the others in the cabal ridicule proven medical research and results by experts in their fields, and that makes me annoyed and amazed because I just can't believe that such ignorance exists in this day and age, but it does and you and the others are proof.

 

I don't know how else to describe the blatant stupidity and ignorance I've seen on here and I was sincerely hoping that AN would take some action, but now it appears that anyone can post any nonsense they want and it won't be challenged – – so sad.

 

So for anyone wanting to believe that viruses don't exist, that disease cannot be spread from human to human, and that vaccinations now and in the previous decades were useless and dangerous, then this is certainly the forum for them.

 

Richard_smith237 has certainly put out some great posts with great and truthful information, however whatever he posts will be strangled by the likes of you and the others in the cabal.

 

And yes I have put quite a few people on ignore, especially the likes of the people who say that viruses don't exist and so on, because it's a plain and utter nonsense. And for the record I wouldn't have to put people on ignore "to create a fantasy world where I am the genius among fools" because it's pretty plain that one wouldn't have to be a genius to be smarter than the posters here believing this nonsense. So in effect you and the others have elevated me above the likes of you and those posters, and for that I thank you!!

 

No, I don't have a superiority complex, I just believe in the science, the research, the results, the peer reviews and the experts in their fields who have made major advances in medicine and who are not afraid to publish their results/papers, despite folks like you and the others who don't believe in the science and the great work which has been carried out by these experts and how many lives they have saved in the process. 

[Will B Good]

40 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Thanks for that Richard.

 

Actually in the US and UK it was 6 feet. In case your maths are not up to it; that's a bit less than 2 metres.

 

I can recall that white-coat on the English tv, saying that 6 people are allowed together, and must be 6 feet apart. There was another 6 he referred to. Can't quite recall that one. Something to do with how many pints could be bought/carried/drunk. Could be wrong there though. Dr Hilary Jones was his name.

Actually in the US and UK it was 6 feet.......only the US uses archaic units of measurements, much the distress of the ring wingers in the UK who also want to use pounds, ounces, pecks, bushels and the like......one exception (not sure why, is miles).

 

As we used 2m and the US used 6'.....those 6.74" made all the difference....you died in your droves...... who said size doesn't matter?

[xylophone]

On 4/21/2025 at 9:44 PM, Will B Good said:

 

Polio – caused by the poliovirus

Measles – caused by the measles virus (a paramyxovirus)

Flu (Influenza) – caused by influenza viruses (A, B, C, D)

Hepatitis A – caused by the hepatitis A virus

Hepatitis B – caused by the hepatitis B virus

Rubella – caused by the rubella virus

Mumps – caused by the mumps virus

Rotavirus – caused by the rotavirus

Chickenpox – caused by the varicella-zoster virus

Thanks Will......and to follow on from my previous post it can be seen, yes, there for all to see, that the post by Stiddle Mump in which he said: "None of these quoted, are caused by a virus Sir". is plain nonsense and if I am labelled as having a "superiority complex" then it wouldn't hard given the stupidity shown by others on here.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

Thanks Will......and to follow on from my previous post it can be seen, yes, there for all to see, that the post by Stiddle Mump in which he said: "None of these quoted, are caused by a virus Sir". is plain nonsense and if I am labelled as having a "superiority complex" then it wouldn't hard given the stupidity shown by others on here.

 

I had no idea until recently there are people who fervently deny that pathogens exist....or, if they do, they don't cause disease.

 

I have an inkling RFKJr is one of them.....what the......?

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Thanks Will......and to follow on from my previous post it can be seen, yes, there for all to see, that the post by Stiddle Mump in which he said: "None of these quoted, are caused by a virus Sir". is plain nonsense and if I am labelled as having a "superiority complex" then it wouldn't hard given the stupidity shown by others on here.

I did explain what the three conditions were caused by. Did you not read that far Sir?

 

It might come as a surprise to you, that some very learned doctors, and scientists, also believe as I, and others on this platform, that vaccines are not safe, not effective, and not necessary.

 

Would you say they talk nonsense? Or are stupid?

 

It is you Sir, who is guilty of burying your head in the sand, not do meaningful research, and simply echo MSM.

 

Nature has all the answers we seek.

[atpeace]

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

 

Well, you couldn't be further from the truth with regards to being "full of anger" – – never was and never will be, although I do get annoyed when folks like you and the others in the cabal ridicule proven medical research and results by experts in their fields, and that makes me annoyed and amazed because I just can't believe that such ignorance exists in this day and age, but it does and you and the others are proof.

 

I don't know how else to describe the blatant stupidity and ignorance I've seen on here and I was sincerely hoping that AN would take some action, but now it appears that anyone can post any nonsense they want and it won't be challenged – – so sad.

 

So for anyone wanting to believe that viruses don't exist, that disease cannot be spread from human to human, and that vaccinations now and in the previous decades were useless and dangerous, then this is certainly the forum for them.

 

Richard_smith237 has certainly put out some great posts with great and truthful information, however whatever he posts will be strangled by the likes of you and the others in the cabal.

 

And yes I have put quite a few people on ignore, especially the likes of the people who say that viruses don't exist and so on, because it's a plain and utter nonsense. And for the record I wouldn't have to put people on ignore "to create a fantasy world where I am the genius among fools" because it's pretty plain that one wouldn't have to be a genius to be smarter than the posters here believing this nonsense. So in effect you and the others have elevated me above the likes of you and those posters, and for that I thank you!!

 

No, I don't have a superiority complex, I just believe in the science, the research, the results, the peer reviews and the experts in their fields who have made major advances in medicine and who are not afraid to publish their results/papers, despite folks like you and the others who don't believe in the science and the great work which has been carried out by these experts and how many lives they have saved in the process. 

 

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

 

Well, you couldn't be further from the truth with regards to being "full of anger" – – never was and never will be, although I do get annoyed when folks like you and the others in the cabal ridicule proven medical research and results by experts in their fields, and that makes me annoyed and amazed because I just can't believe that such ignorance exists in this day and age, but it does and you and the others are proof.

 

I don't know how else to describe the blatant stupidity and ignorance I've seen on here and I was sincerely hoping that AN would take some action, but now it appears that anyone can post any nonsense they want and it won't be challenged – – so sad.

 

So for anyone wanting to believe that viruses don't exist, that disease cannot be spread from human to human, and that vaccinations now and in the previous decades were useless and dangerous, then this is certainly the forum for them.

 

Richard_smith237 has certainly put out some great posts with great and truthful information, however whatever he posts will be strangled by the likes of you and the others in the cabal.

 

And yes I have put quite a few people on ignore, especially the likes of the people who say that viruses don't exist and so on, because it's a plain and utter nonsense. And for the record I wouldn't have to put people on ignore "to create a fantasy world where I am the genius among fools" because it's pretty plain that one wouldn't have to be a genius to be smarter than the posters here believing this nonsense. So in effect you and the others have elevated me above the likes of you and those posters, and for that I thank you!!

 

No, I don't have a superiority complex, I just believe in the science, the research, the results, the peer reviews and the experts in their fields who have made major advances in medicine and who are not afraid to publish their results/papers, despite folks like you and the others who don't believe in the science and the great work which has been carried out by these experts and how many lives they have saved in the process. 

Thanks for confirming what I stated 🙂 Keep raging on and insulting all that think differently than yourself. 

[xylophone]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

I had no idea until recently there are people who fervently deny that pathogens exist....or, if they do, they don't cause disease.

 

I have an inkling RFKJr is one of them.....what the......?

I also didn't realise that Will,  but there are those out there who will surprise with their ignorance and stupidity and as I don't suffer fools gladly, I have put those very people on ignore!! So I will see no more of their posts, thank goodness.

[rattlesnake]

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

I don't know how else to describe the blatant stupidity and ignorance I've seen on here and I was sincerely hoping that AN would take some action, but now it appears that anyone can post any nonsense they want and it won't be challenged – – so sad.

 

Time to jump on the bandwagon and go then… kind of like the liberals who have deserted X in droves. The official explanation is "the atmosphere is too toxic", but the truth is more straightforward: they can't stand a censorship-free environment.

 

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

however whatever he posts will be strangled by the likes of you and the others in the cabal.

 

Careful, "cabal" is a conspiratorial word!