RFK Jr. Sparks False Claim Generating Millions of Views re Vaccine/Autism Studies

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Even though he's now the U.S. HHS Secretary appointed by Donald Trump, RFK Jr. has been continuing his longstanding habit of spewing false vaccine misinformation he established during his prior leadership of the non-credible anti-vax group Children's Health Defense.

 

The latest example of RFK Jr's anti-vax misinformation nonsense, and its ensuing spread into the right-wing anti-vax misinformation sphere that now includes this unfortunate forum, follows below:

 

RFK Jr. Sparks False Claim Generating Millions of Views that Vaccine/Autism Studies Never Compared Vaccinated to Unvaccinated Children

"What happened: Some X and Telegram users, citing comments by U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., are falsely claiming that studies debunking the link between vaccines and autism are not comprehensive because they do not compare outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.

...

Kennedy’s claim was soon cited in articles on websites that NewsGuard has found to have repeatedly published false or egregiously misleading content, including TheBurningPlatform.com (Trust Score: 7.5/100) and ChildrensHealthDefense.org (Trust Score: 17.5/100), the site of an anti-vaccine group founded by Kennedy.

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Actually: Multiple peer-reviewed studies dating to the 1990s that found no link between vaccines and autism did, in fact, compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

• For example, a March 2019 study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine journal compared autism rates in Denmark among 625,000 children who received the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines to 31,000 unvaccinated children. The prevalence of autism was found to be lower among the vaccinated population."

 

(more)

 

https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/i/161818068/rfk-jr-sparks-false-claim-generating-millions-of-views-that-vaccineautism-studies-never-compared-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-children

 

As the above fact check report debunking Kennedy's false comments notes, the World Health Organization and many other health and science groups, including the U.K. National Health Service and the Infectious Diseases Society of America, have repeatedly stated that there is no link between vaccines and autism, based on an abundance of scientific evidence.

 

But hey, that won't stop certain posters here with flooding the forum with loads of anti-vax nonsense sourced from nobodies who post their delusional, fact-free rantings on their own Substack blogs to fanfare from the anti-vaxer world, of which, RFK Jr. certainly appears to be the continuing de facto leader.

 

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Even though he's now the U.S. HHS Secretary appointed by Donald Trump, RFK Jr. has been continuing his longstanding habit of spewing false vaccine misinformation he established during his prior leadership of the non-credible anti-vax group Children's Health Defense.

 

The latest example of RFK Jr's anti-vax misinformation nonsense, and its ensuing spread into the right-wing anti-vax misinformation sphere that now includes this unfortunate forum, follows below:

 

RFK Jr. Sparks False Claim Generating Millions of Views that Vaccine/Autism Studies Never Compared Vaccinated to Unvaccinated Children

"What happened: Some X and Telegram users, citing comments by U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., are falsely claiming that studies debunking the link between vaccines and autism are not comprehensive because they do not compare outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.

...

Kennedy’s claim was soon cited in articles on websites that NewsGuard has found to have repeatedly published false or egregiously misleading content, including TheBurningPlatform.com (Trust Score: 7.5/100) and ChildrensHealthDefense.org (Trust Score: 17.5/100), the site of an anti-vaccine group founded by Kennedy.

...

Actually: Multiple peer-reviewed studies dating to the 1990s that found no link between vaccines and autism did, in fact, compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

• For example, a March 2019 study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine journal compared autism rates in Denmark among 625,000 children who received the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines to 31,000 unvaccinated children. The prevalence of autism was found to be lower among the vaccinated population."

 

(more)

 

https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/i/161818068/rfk-jr-sparks-false-claim-generating-millions-of-views-that-vaccineautism-studies-never-compared-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-children

 

As the above fact check report debunking Kennedy's false comments notes, the World Health Organization and many other health and science groups, including the U.K. National Health Service and the Infectious Diseases Society of America, have repeatedly stated that there is no link between vaccines and autism, based on an abundance of scientific evidence.

 

But hey, that won't stop certain posters here with flooding the forum with loads of anti-vax nonsense sourced from nobodies who post their delusional, fact-free rantings on their own Substack blogs to fanfare from the anti-vaxer world, of which, RFK Jr. certainly appears to be the continuing de facto leader.

 

So you are a drug pusher. Got it.

[Harrisfan]

I think he looks good for a 70/71.

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/trends/rfk-jr-sparks-gym-frenzy-with-his-wild-workout-style-jeans-hiking-boots-and-pullups-11734469235196.html

 

His critics should post a photo of themselves 

[johng]

13 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Even though he's now the U.S. HHS Secretary appointed by Donald Trump, RFK Jr. has been continuing his longstanding habit of spewing false vaccine misinformation

 

BS rubbish  (Albert Bourla)

RFK jr is trying to get to the heart of the issue, exposing the lies and complicity

ongoing for many years.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

It's pretty clear that RFK Jr. has a very like-minded following of nonsense here...

 

RFK Jr. claims a doctor told him a worm ate part of his brain, reports New York Times

 

05/08/2024

 

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claimed numerous health problems, including that a parasite possibly ate part of his brain, during a deposition made during a contentious divorce from his second wife about a decade ago, according to the New York Times.

 

The Times reported that Kennedy told attorneys in 2012 that a surgeon at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital reviewed his brain scans after suffering from memory loss and fogginess. The surgeon, he said, believed the issue “was caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died.” POLITICO has not independently reviewed the deposition.

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“I have cognitive problems, clearly … I have short-term memory loss, and I have longer-term memory loss that affects me,” Kennedy said in the deposition.

 

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/rfk-jr-brain-worm-00156794

 

The guy and his nonsense rantings gives to meaning to the term "addled."

 

Cue all the like-minded anti-vaxers here...

 

[blaze master]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's pretty clear that RFK Jr. has a very like-minded following of nonsense here...

 

RFK Jr. claims a doctor told him a worm ate part of his brain, reports New York Times

 

05/08/2024

 

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claimed numerous health problems, including that a parasite possibly ate part of his brain, during a deposition made during a contentious divorce from his second wife about a decade ago, according to the New York Times.

 

The Times reported that Kennedy told attorneys in 2012 that a surgeon at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital reviewed his brain scans after suffering from memory loss and fogginess. The surgeon, he said, believed the issue “was caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died.” POLITICO has not independently reviewed the deposition.

...

“I have cognitive problems, clearly … I have short-term memory loss, and I have longer-term memory loss that affects me,” Kennedy said in the deposition.

 

(more)

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/rfk-jr-brain-worm-00156794

 

The guy and his nonsense rantings gives to meaning to the term "addled."

 

Cue all the like-minded anti-vaxers here...

 

 

You're making it sound so crazy that worms cause issues in humans. Possibly even what happened to the man.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2015/01/20/health/tapeworms-invade-brain/index.html

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

You're making it sound so crazy that worms cause issues in humans. Possibly even what happened to the man.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2015/01/20/health/tapeworms-invade-brain/index.html

 

 

 

No not at all!  I absolutely believe his own claim that a worm ate part of his brain.

 

Watch the guy on TV now, and compare it with him 10-15 years ago, and the differences are STARK!

 

But sadly, that's who's leading U.S. non-health policy under Donald Trump.

 

So it comes as absolutely no surprise when he repeatedly spews factually-disproven nonsense on health and medical issues.

 

[blaze master]

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I absolutely believe his own claim that a worm ate part of his brain.

 

 

You mean the doctor as well right.

[Walker88]

I've looked at the research on possible causes of autism. Collating all the data from properly controlled studies, rather than goal seeking and data falsification, indicates the one factor with the highest correlation with autism is a low value of serum Vitamin D in the mother. That has nothing to do with vaccines given the newborn.

 

One might conclude that modern life is spent largely indoors, avoiding the sun, so Vitamin D deficiency is quite high. That may well explain the rise in autism society has seen in the last few decades.

 

Of course the debate will not stop, because conspiracy theorists get a woody for something and simply cannot let it go.

 

As for RFK's supposed "youthful" appearance, I've seen the unwrapped mummy of Ramses II in Cairo, and at around 3300 years young, Ramses looks a lot better than RFK, Jr.

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

As for RFK's supposed "youthful" appearance, I've seen the unwrapped mummy of Ramses II in Cairo, and at around 3300 years young, Ramses looks a lot better than RFK, Jr.

 

Right.

[Harrisfan]

25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

No not at all!  I absolutely believe his own claim that a worm ate part of his brain.

 

Watch the guy on TV now, and compare it with him 10-15 years ago, and the differences are STARK!

 

But sadly, that's who's leading U.S. non-health policy under Donald Trump.

 

So it comes as absolutely no surprise when he repeatedly spews factually-disproven nonsense on health and medical issues.

 

Life expectancy has fallen last 10 years so vaccines are overrated.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

More re RFK Jr, and one of the federal health agencies under his control muzzling (and effectively forcing out) a renowned nutrition scientist whose findings contradict RFK Jr.'s own claims:

 

NIH loses a top nutrition scientist—and that’s bad news

"In 2019, Dr. Kevin Hall authored arguably the most important study—a randomized controlled trial, the gold standard—showing that ultra-processed foods (UPF) lead to weight gain. He then did the next natural thing: run studies on why. Was it because UPFs are addictive or something else? A follow-up study of his found that UPF may not be inherently addictive, as indicated by the brain’s dopamine response....

 

These follow-up studies directly contradict RFK Jr.’s narrative—that UPF is addictive. Hall was initially restricted from publicly sharing the results. Once he was allowed to comment, the NIH press office edited his response, downplaying the significance. So, he announced his early retirement, citing censorship. He has been at NIH for 21 years.

 

What does this mean for you?   When scientists are muzzled, it hurts the public’s health and doesn’t move us toward a healthier world and better food system. This also follows a concerning pattern echoing recent departures like Dr. Peter Marks (FDA vaccines) and Kevin Griffis (CDC communications)."

 

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/ticks-allergies-measles-top-nutrition

 

Your Local Epidemiologist (YLE) is a public health newsletter with one goal: to “translate” the ever-evolving public health science so that people feel well-equipped to make evidence-based decisions. This newsletter is owned and operated by Dr. Katelyn Jetelina— an epidemiologist and mom.

 

 

[impulse]

28 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I've looked at the research on possible causes of autism. Collating all the data from properly controlled studies, rather than goal seeking and data falsification, indicates the one factor with the highest correlation with autism is a low value of serum Vitamin D in the mother. That has nothing to do with vaccines given the newborn.

 

One might conclude that modern life is spent largely indoors, avoiding the sun, so Vitamin D deficiency is quite high. That may well explain the rise in autism society has seen in the last few decades.

 

Of course the debate will not stop, because conspiracy theorists get a woody for something and simply cannot let it go.

 

As for RFK's supposed "youthful" appearance, I've seen the unwrapped mummy of Ramses II in Cairo, and at around 3300 years young, Ramses looks a lot better than RFK, Jr.

 

All the same, I wouldn't mind seeing some studies not funded by Big Pharma.

 

 

 

[sungod]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

But hey, that won't stop certain posters here with flooding the forum with loads of anti-vax nonsense sourced from nobodies who post their delusional, fact-free rantings on their own Substack blogs to fanfare from the anti-vaxer world, of which, RFK Jr. certainly appears to be the continuing de facto leader.

 

Well, its not stopping the same old poster flooding the forum with his obsession either!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, impulse said:

 

All the same, I wouldn't mind seeing some studies not funded by Big Pharma.

 

 

Why don't you post some proof that the autism studies in question were funded by Big Pharma.... Or are you just making up nonsense out of the right-wing anti-vax playbook?

 

 

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Why don't you post some proof that the autism studies in question were funded by Big Pharma.... Or are you just making up nonsense out of the right-wing anti-vax playbook?

 

Look at who funds the drug studies coming out of universities nowadays.  About 3/4 funded by Big Pharma.

 

Edit:  And even those funded by gub'ment, the authors know to toe the line or they won't get the next Big Pharma contract.  University research has become a money machine.  Not to advance science, but to get the next $$$ contract.

 

[connda]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Even though he's now the U.S. HHS Secretary appointed by Donald Trump, RFK Jr. has been continuing his longstanding habit of spewing false vaccine misinformation he established during his prior leadership of the non-credible anti-vax group Children's Health Defense.

 

The latest example of RFK Jr's anti-vax misinformation nonsense, and its ensuing spread into the right-wing anti-vax misinformation sphere that now includes this unfortunate forum, follows below:

 

RFK Jr. Sparks False Claim Generating Millions of Views that Vaccine/Autism Studies Never Compared Vaccinated to Unvaccinated Children

"What happened: Some X and Telegram users, citing comments by U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., are falsely claiming that studies debunking the link between vaccines and autism are not comprehensive because they do not compare outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated children.

...

Kennedy’s claim was soon cited in articles on websites that NewsGuard has found to have repeatedly published false or egregiously misleading content, including TheBurningPlatform.com (Trust Score: 7.5/100) and ChildrensHealthDefense.org (Trust Score: 17.5/100), the site of an anti-vaccine group founded by Kennedy.

...

Actually: Multiple peer-reviewed studies dating to the 1990s that found no link between vaccines and autism did, in fact, compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

• For example, a March 2019 study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine journal compared autism rates in Denmark among 625,000 children who received the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines to 31,000 unvaccinated children. The prevalence of autism was found to be lower among the vaccinated population."

 

(more)

 

https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/i/161818068/rfk-jr-sparks-false-claim-generating-millions-of-views-that-vaccineautism-studies-never-compared-vaccinated-to-unvaccinated-children

 

As the above fact check report debunking Kennedy's false comments notes, the World Health Organization and many other health and science groups, including the U.K. National Health Service and the Infectious Diseases Society of America, have repeatedly stated that there is no link between vaccines and autism, based on an abundance of scientific evidence.

 

But hey, that won't stop certain posters here with flooding the forum with loads of anti-vax nonsense sourced from nobodies who post their delusional, fact-free rantings on their own Substack blogs to fanfare from the anti-vaxer world, of which, RFK Jr. certainly appears to be the continuing de facto leader.

 

Make sure to stay up to date on all of your boosters and annual shot: Safe and Effective! 

[Harrisfan]

24 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

Well, its not stopping the same old poster flooding the forum with his obsession either!

He wears 3 masks just to be safe.

[save the frogs]

there was a claim that the Amish have zero autism among the children and they don't get vaccinated, so this was used as an argument that vaccines are causing it.

but not sure if there's any truth to this claim. 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Anyway, on this topic I have no opinion. I don't have enough information about it. 

 

You could do what I do, and that is to, among other things, judge what credible sources have to say on the subject -- as opposed to the worthless opinions of anti-vax nonsense peddlers with no professional expertise on the topics at hand.

 

A summary of one part of the OP fact check report I posted above:

 

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As the above fact check report debunking Kennedy's false comments notes, the World Health Organization and many other health and science groups, including the U.K. National Health Service and the Infectious Diseases Society of America, have repeatedly stated that there is no link between vaccines and autism, based on an abundance of scientific evidence.