Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 - Always Winning: Tired of Winning!

[RSD1]

Worst April since The Great Depression. Winning, the likes of which the world has never seen before!
 

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Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send ‘No Confidence’ Signal

 

Few think administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain

 

By  Hannah Erin Lang - WSJ

April 21, 2025 9:00 pm ET

 

The Trump rout is taking on historic dimensions.

 

The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928, according to Bespoke Investment Group.

 

Worries about trade restrictions and the prospect of President Trump firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have investors bracing for greater losses ahead. Corporate earnings reports are rolling in, along with executives’ tariff-dented outlooks for the months ahead. Few think the administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain. 

 

Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.  

 

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. The Charlotte-based firm trimmed its U.S. equity position several weeks ago to favor more international stocks. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.” 

 

Here’s how markets have reacted as threats have multiplied: 

 

STOCKS

 

In the weeks after Donald Trump’s presidential victory, major U.S. stock indexes soared, lifted by investors’ hopes for tax cuts and a deregulatory push that could boost corporate earnings. But the administration instead pressed ahead with aggressive tariffs that threaten to raise prices and slow economic growth.

 

Many investors still wrote off the president’s threats as mere bluster, a negotiating tactic meant to spur concessions from other countries. That changed on April 2, when Trump revealed steep tariffs that sent markets into a tailspin.

 

TREASURYS

 

Markets still haven’t recovered—even after the president rolled back and delayed many of his tariff plans. 

 

Typically, bond prices rise when stocks fall, offering a hedge for investors during stock market turmoil. But that hasn’t been the case in recent weeks. Yields on 10-year U.S. Treasurys, a key benchmark for borrowing costs, have increased 0.16 percentage points in April. Bond yields rise as prices fall, meaning investors are selling U.S. government bonds—widely considered one of the safest and most dependable assets—even when stocks are falling.

 

THE DOLLAR

 

Concerns about the economy, along with fears about Trump’s growing feud with the Fed, are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday to its lowest level in three years.

 

GOLD

 

With other defensive plays falling short, investors have piled into one of oldest hedges there is: gold. Future prices for the precious metal reached another all-time high on Monday.

 

VIX

 

The markets’ “fear gauge” remains elevated, with worries about the trade war and the broader economy adding up to expectations for more volatility ahead.

 

SENTIMENT

 

The mood on Wall Street is darkening as a result. Bearishness levels—or expectations that stock prices will fall—among ordinary investors have hovered above 50% for eight consecutive weeks, according to a weekly survey from the American Association of Individual Investors. That is the longest-lasting bear majority on record, the investor group said, based on data going back to 1987.
 

Source: https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac

[jvs]

36 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Worst April since The Great Depression. Winning, the likes of which the world has never seen before!
 

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Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send ‘No Confidence’ Signal

 

Few think administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain

 

By  Hannah Erin Lang - WSJ

April 21, 2025 9:00 pm ET

 

The Trump rout is taking on historic dimensions.

 

The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928, according to Bespoke Investment Group.

 

Worries about trade restrictions and the prospect of President Trump firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have investors bracing for greater losses ahead. Corporate earnings reports are rolling in, along with executives’ tariff-dented outlooks for the months ahead. Few think the administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain. 

 

Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.  

 

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. The Charlotte-based firm trimmed its U.S. equity position several weeks ago to favor more international stocks. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.” 

 

Here’s how markets have reacted as threats have multiplied: 

 

STOCKS

 

In the weeks after Donald Trump’s presidential victory, major U.S. stock indexes soared, lifted by investors’ hopes for tax cuts and a deregulatory push that could boost corporate earnings. But the administration instead pressed ahead with aggressive tariffs that threaten to raise prices and slow economic growth.

 

Many investors still wrote off the president’s threats as mere bluster, a negotiating tactic meant to spur concessions from other countries. That changed on April 2, when Trump revealed steep tariffs that sent markets into a tailspin.

 

TREASURYS

 

Markets still haven’t recovered—even after the president rolled back and delayed many of his tariff plans. 

 

Typically, bond prices rise when stocks fall, offering a hedge for investors during stock market turmoil. But that hasn’t been the case in recent weeks. Yields on 10-year U.S. Treasurys, a key benchmark for borrowing costs, have increased 0.16 percentage points in April. Bond yields rise as prices fall, meaning investors are selling U.S. government bonds—widely considered one of the safest and most dependable assets—even when stocks are falling.

 

THE DOLLAR

 

Concerns about the economy, along with fears about Trump’s growing feud with the Fed, are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday to its lowest level in three years.

 

GOLD

 

With other defensive plays falling short, investors have piled into one of oldest hedges there is: gold. Future prices for the precious metal reached another all-time high on Monday.

 

VIX

 

The markets’ “fear gauge” remains elevated, with worries about the trade war and the broader economy adding up to expectations for more volatility ahead.

 

SENTIMENT

 

The mood on Wall Street is darkening as a result. Bearishness levels—or expectations that stock prices will fall—among ordinary investors have hovered above 50% for eight consecutive weeks, according to a weekly survey from the American Association of Individual Investors. That is the longest-lasting bear majority on record, the investor group said, based on data going back to 1987.
 

Source: https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac

You just don't understand,it is all part of the master plan,liberation day and all that other bs.

The greatest country in the world with the best economy ever,all ruined by one narcissist ,DJ Trump.

In record time i will add.

[Jingthing]

38 minutes ago, jvs said:

You just don't understand,it is all part of the master plan,liberation day and all that other bs.

The greatest country in the world with the best economy ever,all ruined by one narcissist ,DJ Trump.

In record time i will add.

Yeah he's playing 5 D chess.

The D's standing for DUMB.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Just a bit of volatility. Great buying opp. Crazy to think leftists are more concerned about their weapons manufacturing and bigpharma shares than keeping regular Joes safe on the street. To say they have lost their way is a gigantic understatement.

Anyone that panics and has a tantrum when stocks are volatile shouldn't be investing on the market at all. It's a game for steady hands.

[HappyExpat57]

Again, he's not the mastermind, he's just the front man. He's far too busy playing golf. This is all Project 2025 being put in place behind the scenes. 47 is only the clown at the circus, the distraction, the buffoon signing the executive orders, while the real looting is going on hidden in plain sight.

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Again, he's not the mastermind, he's just the front man. He's far too busy playing golf. This is all Project 2025 being put in place behind the scenes. 47 is only the clown at the circus, the distraction, the buffoon signing the executive orders, while the real looting is going on hidden in plain sight.

 

You of course have a link for your bold claims right ? Oh wait no you don't it's your personal opinion.

[blaze master]

What would a day on AN be without the regular onslaught of trump mania. 

 

I am willing to offer a reward to any of the posters hemorrhaging trump threads every day to take a single day off.

 

Any takers ?

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

What would a day on AN be without the regular onslaught of trump mania. 

 

I am willing to offer a reward to any of the posters hemorrhaging trump threads every ray to take a single day off.

 

Any takers ?

I hate to be a nitpick but you should probably name the reward first. Does that make sense?

[Walker88]

11 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just a bit of volatility. Great buying opp. Crazy to think leftists are more concerned about their weapons manufacturing and bigpharma shares than keeping regular Joes safe on the street. To say they have lost their way is a gigantic understatement.

Anyone that panics and has a tantrum when stocks are volatile shouldn't be investing on the market at all. It's a game for steady hands.

The ONLY reason there has been any attempt at recovery is because he keeps caving.

 

He caved on his initial plan after the markets tanked, putting things off for 90 days.

 

He caved on auto parts, mobile phones, computers and other tech stuff.

 

He caved on his "total loser" Fed Chair.

 

Last night he caved on Chinese tariffs, saying 145% is "temporary".

 

Now, all 184 tariffed nations know he's weak and will cave. They will al play him like a fiddle.

 

He hasn't yet caved on Nikes, so I hope MAGAs are lining up to sew sneakers in a new US factory that might be built in half a dozen years.

 

Go ahead and back up the truck to get all those bargains in the market. Better tell Warren Buffett, too, as he's still sitting on $350 billion in cash, not quite convinced of a bottom.

 

We'll talk again in 2050, when maybe you break even.

 

In the meantime, I'm enjoying the profits gained during the Biden Economic Boom.  Thanks Joe.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Just now, Walker88 said:

The ONLY reason there has been any attempt at recovery is because he keeps caving.

 

He caved on his initial plan after the markets tanked, putting things off for 90 days.

 

He caved on auto parts, mobile phones, computers and other tech stuff.

 

He caved on his "total loser" Fed Chair.

 

Last night he caved on Chinese tariffs, saying 145% is "temporary".

 

Now, all 184 tariffed nations know he's weak and will cave. They will al play him like a fiddle.

 

He hasn't yet caved on Nikes, so I hope MAGAs are lining up to sew sneakers in a new US factory that might be built in half a dozen years.

 

Go ahead and back up the truck to get all those bargains in the market. Better tell Warren Buffett, too, as he's still sitting on $350 billion in cash, not quite convinced of a bottom.

 

We'll talk again in 2050, when maybe you break even.

 

In the meantime, I'm enjoying the profits gained during the Biden Economic Boom.  Thanks Joe.

You don't understand economics, negotiations or deal making. Not going to waste my time engaging.

[blaze master]

12 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I hate to be a nitpick but you should probably name the reward first. Does that make sense?

 

No.

[ronnie50]

The Economist also had something on this the other day. The stock market can bounce up and down, but , as the Economist points out, the sell-off of US Treasury Bonds is a major concern because the Bonds are seen as the bedrock of US financial system. It said one-third of them are held by individuals (e.g. not countries), and individuals won't bend to tariff threats or other BS. If they feel squeezed or scared, they may sell too (apparently Japan sold off billions of US Treasury Bonds last week). So not good at all. This is the thing to keep a careful watch over... not that there's much anyone else can do about it..

[Rimmer]

Personal attack has been removed. There is no need for this, please stop it immediately.

 @flexomike

[short-Timer]

The S&P 500 has dropped a total of 14% since Trump took office, the steepest decline in such a short period of time under the start of any US presidency since the index was created in 1957. The only other president to see more than a 5% drop so early in their term was Bush in 2001, and even that was only 7%. Too much winning?

[safarimike11]

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

Worst April since The Great Depression. Winning, the likes of which the world has never seen before!
 

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Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932 as Investors Send ‘No Confidence’ Signal

 

Few think administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain

 

By  Hannah Erin Lang - WSJ

April 21, 2025 9:00 pm ET

 

The Trump rout is taking on historic dimensions.

 

The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928, according to Bespoke Investment Group.

 

Worries about trade restrictions and the prospect of President Trump firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell have investors bracing for greater losses ahead. Corporate earnings reports are rolling in, along with executives’ tariff-dented outlooks for the months ahead. Few think the administration’s negotiations with trade partners will yield results soon enough to ease the strain. 

 

Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.  

 

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. The Charlotte-based firm trimmed its U.S. equity position several weeks ago to favor more international stocks. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.” 

 

Here’s how markets have reacted as threats have multiplied: 

 

STOCKS

 

In the weeks after Donald Trump’s presidential victory, major U.S. stock indexes soared, lifted by investors’ hopes for tax cuts and a deregulatory push that could boost corporate earnings. But the administration instead pressed ahead with aggressive tariffs that threaten to raise prices and slow economic growth.

 

Many investors still wrote off the president’s threats as mere bluster, a negotiating tactic meant to spur concessions from other countries. That changed on April 2, when Trump revealed steep tariffs that sent markets into a tailspin.

 

TREASURYS

 

Markets still haven’t recovered—even after the president rolled back and delayed many of his tariff plans. 

 

Typically, bond prices rise when stocks fall, offering a hedge for investors during stock market turmoil. But that hasn’t been the case in recent weeks. Yields on 10-year U.S. Treasurys, a key benchmark for borrowing costs, have increased 0.16 percentage points in April. Bond yields rise as prices fall, meaning investors are selling U.S. government bonds—widely considered one of the safest and most dependable assets—even when stocks are falling.

 

THE DOLLAR

 

Concerns about the economy, along with fears about Trump’s growing feud with the Fed, are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday to its lowest level in three years.

 

GOLD

 

With other defensive plays falling short, investors have piled into one of oldest hedges there is: gold. Future prices for the precious metal reached another all-time high on Monday.

 

VIX

 

The markets’ “fear gauge” remains elevated, with worries about the trade war and the broader economy adding up to expectations for more volatility ahead.

 

SENTIMENT

 

The mood on Wall Street is darkening as a result. Bearishness levels—or expectations that stock prices will fall—among ordinary investors have hovered above 50% for eight consecutive weeks, according to a weekly survey from the American Association of Individual Investors. That is the longest-lasting bear majority on record, the investor group said, based on data going back to 1987.
 

Source: https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/dow-jones-stocks-worst-april-1932-74fe82ac

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-i-have-no-intention-of-firing-feds-powell-215018599.html

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44 minutes ago, blaze master said:

What would a day on AN be without the regular onslaught of trump mania. 

 

I am willing to offer a reward to any of the posters hemorrhaging trump threads every day to take a single day off.

 

Any takers ?

How about a pause on making personal attacks on members via allegations that are unproveable and instead focusing on the issues?  Personal attacks are the province of those who have nothing relevant to offer.

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, safarimike11 said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-i-have-no-intention-of-firing-feds-powell-215018599.html

Did his lips move?

[jas007]

April isn't over yet, is it?  And so far today, it looks like it's going to be another good day. The market could be bottoming here.  

 

Somehow, I got lucky, and I'm currently ahead YTD.  And super fantastic for the last 12 months. 

 

Trump and Xi are supposed to meet in May, and if they settle the tariff thing to everyone's satisfaction, the market will be on its way up again, at least for the time being. 

 

The Ukraine war should be over soon, and the only other problem in the world is the Middle East and the Neocons that want to drag the US into WWIII.  If that happens, none of us will be around too much longer to worry about the markets. 

[placeholder]

6 minutes ago, safarimike11 said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-i-have-no-intention-of-firing-feds-powell-215018599.html

A quote from the article linked to:

"President Trump told reporters "I have no intention of firing" Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell even though he wants the policymaker to lower interest rates, making the comment less than a week after Trump asserted on social media that "Powell's termination cannot come fast enough."

[bkk6060]

Seems like dumb prediction May 1 is still a week away.

Up 2.5 % yesterday and futures up 2.5% today.   Ruins the haters day when markets go up.  Too bad, they probably don't have any money anyway.

[short-Timer]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

A quote from the article linked to:

"President Trump told reporters "I have no intention of firing" Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell even though he wants the policymaker to lower interest rates, making the comment less than a week after Trump asserted on social media that "Powell's termination cannot come fast enough."

Flip-flops more in a day than he changes his diapers. 

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7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

A quote from the article linked to:

"President Trump told reporters "I have no intention of firing" Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell even though he wants the policymaker to lower interest rates, making the comment less than a week after Trump asserted on social media that "Powell's termination cannot come fast enough."

Come to think of it maybe there is no contradiction. Maybe Trump doesn't mean termination as in firing but something else instead.

[black tabby12345]

President of the United States.

The most powerful and influential man in the world.

Even his words impacts on the global scale.

So as his stupid policy...

[jas007]

4 minutes ago, short-Timer said:

Flip-flops more in a day than he changes his diapers. 

I'm sure he said that to calm the markets, and it doesn't mean much, in any event Most of not all of his public pronouncements are political theater. Powell isn't going anywhere, and Trump knows it.  Further, he knows the Fed Put will always be there, regardless of Powell's theatrics.  

[Tug]

59 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just a bit of volatility. Great buying opp. Crazy to think leftists are more concerned about their weapons manufacturing and bigpharma shares than keeping regular Joes safe on the street. To say they have lost their way is a gigantic understatement.

Anyone that panics and has a tantrum when stocks are volatile shouldn't be investing on the market at all. It's a game for steady hands.

Peoples 401Ks pension plans all of this stuff is being endangered because of one man all totally self inflicted not to mention the hardship caused around the world.your comment to me is shallow and offensive…..the regular Joe on the street ain’t gonna have nothing if trump continues to squander our country’s wealth and good standing .to say we are headed towards another low not seen since 32 is not something to be taken lightly especially because of the person causing is has shall we say a track record……

[mania]

2 hours ago, RSD1 said:

Worst April since The Great Depression. Winning, the likes of which the world has never seen before!

 

Wake up! The markets are not the economy.... The markets have long been run/controlled by news...Buy/Sell on news have been the day traders mantra for 25+ years already.....Watch & learn see what unfolds & please relax you leftist are going to soil your pants if you keep up with this nonsense....Find a safe room 😉 

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22 minutes ago, jas007 said:

April isn't over yet, is it?  And so far today, it looks like it's going to be another good day. The market could be bottoming here.  

 

Somehow, I got lucky, and I'm currently ahead YTD.  And super fantastic for the last 12 months. 

 

Trump and Xi are supposed to meet in May, and if they settle the tariff thing to everyone's satisfaction, the market will be on its way up again, at least for the time being. 

 

The Ukraine war should be over soon, and the only other problem in the world is the Middle East and the Neocons that want to drag the US into WWIII.  If that happens, none of us will be around too much longer to worry about the markets. 

 

22 minutes ago, jas007 said:

April isn't over yet, is it?  And so far today, it looks like it's going to be another good day. The market could be bottoming here.  

 

Somehow, I got lucky, and I'm currently ahead YTD.  And super fantastic for the last 12 months. 

 

Trump and Xi are supposed to meet in May, and if they settle the tariff thing to everyone's satisfaction, the market will be on its way up again, at least for the time being. 

 

The Ukraine war should be over soon, and the only other problem in the world is the Middle East and the Neocons that want to drag the US into WWIII.  If that happens, none of us will be around too much longer to worry about the markets. 

I once witnessed a miracle on aseannow.com

I don't expect anyone to believe this but there was once a member who confessed that he had actually lost money on the stock market.

EDIT: Maybe I hallucinated this?

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I hate to be a nitpick but you should probably name the reward first. Does that make sense?

 

We'll buy you a Lady Drink if you take a day off. Is that good enough? 

 

[jas007]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

 

I once witnessed a miracle on aseannow.com

I don't expect anyone to believe this but there was once a member who confessed that he had actually lost money on the stock market.

Over the years, I've lost all sorts of money trading stocks or investing in the wrong ones.  That's how you get good at it.  Once you male a mistake and that mistake costs you money, you won't make that particular mistake again.

 

I think my record was losing $128,000 one time in a 10 minute period.  

 

So yes, I screw up once in a while.  It comes with the territory.  The idea is to make more money than you lose. 

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, Walker88 said:

The ONLY reason there has been any attempt at recovery is because he keeps caving.

 

He caved on his initial plan after the markets tanked, putting things off for 90 days.

 

He keeps caving because things don't work out OR it was planned from the beginning.

 

Neither can be proven though, so no need to be so sure of yourself.

It's just as likely that he planned several steps ahead. And there's no way to know for sure. But keep pushing your bias if it makes you feel good.