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Trump now in favour of immigration

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On 5/1/2025 at 6:25 AM, Will B Good said:

 

In South Africa there is no focus on white farmers per se. Farmers of any nationality are at risk. The attacks stem from rural insecurity and a level of lawlessness that pervades rural settings, attacks are not related to racism.

 

You might be getting mixed up with Zimbabwe.

Well, you won't find that information using google or bing as a search engine.  

Try, "South African encourages attacks on whites" using the yandex.com search engine.   That will even have a website listing the tortures and murder of whites on it. 

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22 minutes ago, still kicking said:

What does this have to do with South Africa? We are talking about refugees 

I thought it had do do with the offer of refugee status (and immigration) to the U.S. of whites that currently live in South Africa.

 

"President Trump's controversial executive order offer[s] refugee status to the White Afrikaner minority in South Africa ..."

 

 

On 5/1/2025 at 6:25 AM, Will B Good said:

 

In South Africa there is no focus on white farmers per se. Farmers of any nationality are at risk. The attacks stem from rural insecurity and a level of lawlessness that pervades rural settings, attacks are not related to racism.

 

You might be getting mixed up with Zimbabwe.

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Julius Malema, the head of the EFF, responded to the DA and the Freedom Front Plus by stating that he would continue to sing “Kill the Boer” if he so desired.

 

Malema spoke on Wednesday from the EFF’s headquarters in Johannesburg during a press conference.

After defeating the lobby group AfriForum in court, the Equality Court decided that the song was protected by the First Amendment, permitted in the controversial political climate, and was neither hate speech nor incitement. Malema emphasised to journalists that the court’s rulings must be respected."

 

https://hararelive.com/2023/08/02/eff-wont-stop-singing-kill-the-boer-malema/

On 5/1/2025 at 8:10 AM, Tug said:

Do they get a tiki torch on landing and a white outfit with a pointy hat?

Only if they register with the democrat party. 

On 5/1/2025 at 9:31 PM, mikeymike100 said:

Quite so, also George W Bush and Mitt Romney, not a president, but relevant!

I will argue with you about Bush.   He was in the National Guard.  Some will say he skipped some or many weekend drills, which I will admit he did. 

 

But the reason was he had done (I think administrative work) for the National Guard accumulating enough days to have completed his required yearly commitment of National Guard service.   

 

What news agencies and detractors don't report to the public is how that service can be accumulated.   A regular weekend is a total of 16 hours, i.e. two 8 hour work days.  For both National Guard and Reserve service, that counts as four days of service.   Some how, a 4 hour block of time counts as a full day.   Sometimes a weekend service requires attendance of four hours on Friday.  This plus Saturday and Sunday attendance counts as five days of service, or one full week!

 

An eight hour day of administrative work during the week, however, only counts as one day of service.   Then there is the additional freebee of being given 15 days each year that counts as your time served. 

 

But, he evaded the draft?  No, National Guard service is not evasion of the draft.   

 

And off topic of what I wrote above, was Bush a RINO?  Yes, I think he was.   Which for me means, he was a moderate democrat!  

On 5/1/2025 at 9:48 PM, Thingamabob said:

White farmers in South Africa are being murdered regularly, and have been so for many years. The liberal left elite choose not to report this. Shameful.

 

No one is ignoring murders. However, there is context. In 2024, 32 farm related workers were murdered of which 4 were black farmworkers. Sometimes the farmers are black.  South Africa is a violent land. That is the legacy of a system that kept wealth in the hands of foreigners, and then other elite segments, while much of the population remained in poverty. The number of  white farmers killed is relatively small when compared to other South Africans. .South Africa has around 26,000 murder victims in a year. 32 out of 26,000 is not significant. Nor is 28.  It is not nice, but not a big number. Its 0.085% .    Whites make up 7% of the population. The takeaway is that it is safer to be a white farmer than it is to be a black townshipper.

 

 

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36ZD7HY  Has some eye opening data on the murders.

 

On 5/1/2025 at 7:07 AM, Will B Good said:

Seems odd .........only 18% of SA farmers are white........yet only the white farmers are receiving this offer to escape the rural violence and killings.

 

The USA has laws decided by the court. The courts are there to provide due process for the laws of the USA. Guacamole is made from avocados, cerveza comes from Mexico. Did you have a sudden change of heart? 

15 hours ago, retayl said:

Answer the question and stop deflecting. Please define who are the liberal left elite?

'Answer the question and stop deflecting' you say. And who do you think you are, issuing such a statement ? 

8 hours ago, radiochaser said:

 

 

And off topic of what I wrote above, was Bush a RINO?  Yes, I think he was.   Which for me means, he was a moderate democrat!  

Some Itaquis would disagree with you ..

13 hours ago, radiochaser said:

The question here is, are Rohingya citizens of South Africa?

No, why?

11 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

The USA has laws decided by the court. The courts are there to provide due process for the laws of the USA. Guacamole is made from avocados, cerveza comes from Mexico. Did you have a sudden change of heart? 

 

The US has laws decided by the courts......what are you on?

 

Do you know nothing about how congress and the judiciary function?

9 hours ago, BLMFem said:

No, why?

Because the thread was  about South Africans, not Rohingya's, right?

13 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Some Itaquis would disagree with you ..

Who are what are "Itaquis"? 

14 hours ago, radiochaser said:

Because the thread was  about South Africans, not Rohingya's, right?

The thread is about Trump offering asylum to a particular group of people who just happen to be white. That in itself raises many questions since generally he's very anti-immigration.

I'm very surprised that this has to be pointed out to you. Are you having a slow day?

31 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The thread is about Trump offering asylum to a particular group of people who just happen to be white. That in itself raises many questions since generally he's very anti-immigration.

I'm very surprised that this has to be pointed out to you. Are you having a slow day?

Trump is not "very anti-immigration".   That is just one of the many democrat lies.  

 

Trump is, however against people entering the United States illegally, which is an entirely different matter from legal entry into the United States by actual immigrants that follows U.S. of A. immigration laws.  

 

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7 hours ago, radiochaser said:

Trump is not "very anti-immigration".   That is just one of the many democrat lies.  

 

Trump is, however against people entering the United States illegally, which is an entirely different matter from legal entry into the United States by actual immigrants that follows U.S. of A. immigration laws.  

 

The trouble with that argument is that Trump is not only against illegal immigration, he is also against legal immigration, as pointed out in the Forbes article below.

 

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Donald Trump reduced legal immigration in his first term, and his team has taken the first steps to do so again. 

 

Donald Trump’s Team Takes First Steps To Cut Legal Immigration

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/03/04/donald-trumps-team-takes-first-steps-to-cut-legal-immigration/

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