What is it about Trump that triggers you and causes you so much angst and unease

[ThreeCardMonte]

He is doing everything “We the People “ elected him for.

 

Best President in modern history.  
 

 

[flexomike]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

3 key points….hyena……ripping your face off all wealth gotten by inheritance and or fraud not to mention mental illness….not chief executive material obviously we all see the damage he’s doing

who is WE, you got a turd in your pocket.

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

What do you build? I am actually curious and not trying to be a A-hole about this question. I build cabins in the USA.

Sorry about the delay the wife and I just finished our morning walk.I remember you talking about West Virginia back in the day!love that area!presently I’m finishing my 7/8 scale Newport 11 built of the graham Lee design it’s powered by a great planes VW conversion dual mags ect.im about at the 85%+ percentage complete on that.I just finished a solar trailer kinda old school with 8 golf cart batteries that’s 2 kw  12 panels total all folds so if I want to move it I can.been working flawlessly for about 7/8 months now.flying my RC sailplanes great fun there and if I wipe out nobody gets hurt!!+ allways stuff to do on my property’s.busy boy just the way I like it!!kinda get bored in Thailand but love the people my wife and the vibe!I didn’t think you were an A hole for asking not for a second.

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, flexomike said:

who is WE, you got a turd in your pocket.

That so?seems the majority think differently now perhaps you might check what’s between your ears.

[kevozman1]

Drones, droning. He's just an actor, just like Putin and Xi Jinping. They are actually coming out of the closet in recent years and making it obvious that they are puppets, but still many people are hypnotized by the charade.  

[ThreeCardMonte]

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

That so?seems the majority think differently now perhaps you might check what’s between your ears.

Majority?  The majority voted for Trump.

 

That’s why he lives on Pennsylvania Avenue along with the magnificent Trump Towers and Mar A Lago.

 

Not too shabby.

[Stocky]

13 hours ago, connda said:

Clue me in.

The lack of humour, I can't abide someone who can't take a joke and laugh at themselves.

[Presnock]

former Republican, then former independent never considered Democrats but Trump has now taken the presidential oath of allegience to the US Constitution TWICE!  But I heard him say he doesn't believe in the US Constitution and that he doesn't need to follow what he doesn''t believe in and that he has a lot of lawyers who can help him understand it.  It is obvious IMHO that he doesn't really care about the regular non-rich citizens of the world and will do whatever to win the praise of the rich.  The richer the more he respects them IMHO again.  The world would imho be a safer place once he is gone for good!

[placeholder]

What conda is up to here is trying to make the political personal. And the reason he's trying to do that is because, basically, he's got nothing.

[BritManToo]

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What conda is up to here is trying to make the political personal. And the reason he's trying to do that is because, basically, he's got nothing.

But at least he knows what McD is selling!

[jerrymahoney]

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What conda is up to here is trying to make the political personal. And the reason he's trying to do that is because, basically, he's got nothing.

There is an undercurrent to many of the Trump WINNING topics and replies where such persons have the disposition of a cat playing with a half-dead mouse.

 

Good for them.

[newbee2022]

14 hours ago, connda said:

Although I've been accused of being a MAGA Trump supporter, I'm not. Didn't vote for him, didn't vote for Harris either.
Some of his policies I support; many of his policies I don't support.

However, I'm just at a loss at the level of angst, unease, dread, suspicion, worry, concern, disgust, horror, hostility, and hatred that people have for him.  It's just the uniformity of these emotions between those who can not stop whinging about him that confuses me.  It's like those who are triggered by Trump are part of a Star Trek Borg-Mind hive.  There is so little that is unique about what those who dislike him are saying about him -  It's like they all read from the same script. 

I find that fascinating! 

Don't get me wrong.  Trump is a narcissistic megalomaniac with god-like delusions of grandeur, but for Pete's sake kids, most of the current crop of world leaders are narcissistic megalomaniac with god-like delusions of grandeur although Trump is beginning to out-trump them all.  Literally, “I’d like to be pope. That would be my number one choice.", and “I run the country and the world.”

Everybody wants to rule the world! 
-- Tears for Fears

 

And Trump is convinced he's the ruler of the world.  Freaking Amazing, 'eh?

But realistically, Obama was a narcissistic megalomaniac, Biden was a narcissistic megalomaniac, "Dubya" Bush and is cabinet were narcissistic megalomaniacs, the Clinton's are narcissistic megalomaniacs.  And no doubt, whomever is elected as the US President in 2028 will be a narcissistic megalomaniac.  The third party candidates whom I vote for are not narcissistic megalomaniacs, but they don't get elected either. Go figure?  Anyway, I digress.  
Here's the bottom line for me.  Regardless of who is in office, I've never been so triggered as to completely lose my s**t and then spend the next four years consumed on social media or within my social circles being obsessed by whomever was selected to be the POTUS.  Never! So watching it happen - for the second time - is just.....fascinating.

So my terminally triggered Trump hating friends?  What the hell is it that causes you people so much obsession and grief about this guy?  I just don't understand.  Clue me in.

I think you described it very well already. And I'm sure you got your opinion already too.

The essence of your post could be: Trump is fascinating in a good and bad way. A Jekyll and Hyde in one person. Change within minutes possible. He's marvelous in playing the media and a dork in terms of diplomacy.

He disrupting the world's order and will shape the world in a direction his allies (does he have?) dislike and disagree. Even his enemies.

I believe in common sense. Common sense of American people who have take the burden of disruption. They have to pay the price, not the millionaires. They misuse Trump for their kleptomaniac business. 

I reckon Trump will be POTUS not for the entire term when prices and inflation are rising high and also the interest rate. Economy will come to a downturn which will effect the whole world.

I would expect the head wind starting after the midterms. Maybe even earlier.

Trump will have to admit that his dreams will shatter.

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, candide said:

The imaginary fraud which exists only in Musk's tweets! 🤣

You really think they have not found any waste at all?

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

Is he  really successful? I suppose as a father, he is a good and loving father. And as a friend, he does take care of them. Some will call it cronyism. However, as a business person and as a President, he has not been consistently successful. Multiple bankruptcies are not a measure of success. Nor is the stiffing of small independent contractors. As a President, he is a failure because of his inability to unite a nation or to do what is right when it needs to be done, i.e. taking the higher ground.

 

Doing things his way is not necessarily  a bad thing. It is a bad thing when it is inappropriate like ignoring the US Constitution, or having public temper tantrums or insulting people. 

He is a mediocre showman on the same level as the 1980's televangelists who sold dreams and false promises. His staying power is as good as Ron Popeil's hair in a can spray.

His wife was not a supermodel. She was  a high school dropout,  generic model who came to the USA from eastern Europe under questionable means.

Brave isn't the word I would use for him. A relentless bully, brash, tough with a strong will to survive are more appropriate adjectives. He has no class.

Hating him is not worth the energy. I expect that his detractors are more likely to be embarrassed and ashamed of what he has done, than hateful.

I don't know why you make references to anyone's wife as you do know Trump's wife's own history.

And if he reminds people of a school bully, then they are most likely reasonable in their assessment.

There is trump derangement in full effect!

 

Is he really sucessful..... a self made billionare that is now the POTUS for a second time.... 

[jas007]

14 hours ago, connda said:

It's like those who are triggered by Trump are part of a Star Trek Borg-Mind hive.  There is so little that is unique about what those who dislike him are saying about him -  It's like they all read from the same script. 

Propaganda. 

 

They aren't all "reading from the same script," but they were all programed by way of the same propaganda apparatus. The powers that be bought and paid for mainstream media outlets and essentially controlled all the so-called "news." And the agenda was clear: Trump was a threat to the human race and a threat to "democracy." A man to be stopped at any cost.  A man who could never again occupy the White House for any reason.  

 

Couple that agenda with a large portion of the population conditioned to "trust the authorities" and "follow the rules" and you have brainwashed people. People who will believe just about anything they've been programed to believe. It's a dangerous combination.  

 

But the powers that be lost control of the narrative. Mainstream media was no longer the only media game in town, and they could no longer dictate the "news."  

 

That's how Elon Musk became equally dangerous to the powers that be. He bought Twitter and he actually believed in the concept of free speech.  Imagine that!  Free speech in America.  What a crazy notion.  And  we saw what they did to Elon and Tesla. Those same people who now vilify Musk used to think Tesla cars were the best thing since sliced bread. Saving the planet with electric cars. Fighting climate change.  Silly or not, that was the message at one time.  And then, for no logical reason, Musk was another evil enemy. Tesla cars were vandalized.  Saving the planet was no longer a priority.  Fighting climate change was no longer a priority.

 

The real priority?  Protecting trillions of dollars of corruption money.  Wars are very profitable for many people and those people want to keep the money flowing in their direction.

 

Now what?  Has Trump lost the plot?  How big is his new budget proposal and what portion of that money is for more war?  

[jerrymahoney]

Well one thing for sure he IS POTUS for 2nd time.

And as Tom Cruise put it in Maverick (2022):

(That's) one of life's mysteries, sir.

I just think some of his proposals and current actions exceed those powers generally acknowledged as within the Presidential authority without then calling on some novel & contorted interpretation of prior Acts that he has further authority.

[BritManToo]

25 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I believe in common sense. Common sense of American people who have take the burden of disruption.

If the USA had any common sense the last election wouldn't have been Trump Vs Kamala!

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, Hummin said:

Extremes have no limits, same for those who entered the congress. Proud boys armed in the streets, should scare most people 

What like the ones who police let in, the ones who calmly walked throuh the building taking selfies?

 

[newbee2022]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If the USA had any common sense the last election wouldn't have been Trump Vs Kamala!

Maybe. However people were hoping the promises to come true. Trump told the people what they want and wanted to hear. 

Don't forget only half of American voters believed it. The other half recover from shock induced paralysis.

[KhunLA]

19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If the USA had any common sense the last election wouldn't have been Trump Vs Kamala!

Slim pickins, as no intelligent person wants that job.   

... the pay sucks (private sector pays better)

... life under a microscope

... no privacy for the rest of your life, including family

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Maybe. However people were hoping the promises to come true. Trump told the people what they want and wanted to hear. 

Don't forget only half of American voters believed it. The other half recover from shock induced paralysis.

Hard to tell if the promises are coming true or not, early days and .........

MSM always say Trump bad no matter what's actually happening.

I believe it's currently 92% negative media.

But I enjoy watching the interviews where he rips the lefty journos a new one.

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Problem this., this half Russian bloke calling himself "Frank" is one of that mob.

I am nothing of the sort. 

[newbee2022]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Hard to tell if the promises are coming true or not, early days and .........

MSM always say Trump bad no matter what's actually happening.

I believe it's currently 92% negative media.

But I enjoy watching the interviews where he rips the lefty journos a new one.

Not everybody who is against Trump is a "lefty". It is this labeling what makes it difficult to have a different view.

[Patong2021]

48 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

There is trump derangement in full effect!

 

Is he really sucessful..... a self made billionare that is now the POTUS for a second time.... 

 

Self made? He relied on an inheritance that  was created because of government generosity.

Trump is wealthy today because of government housing subsidies. While still a young man, he inherited his father Fred's real-estate empire, worth tens of millions of dollars. The senior Trump made his fortune by building middle-class housing financed by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). In the 1930s, Fred Trump built single-family homes for middle class families in Queens and Brooklyn, using mortgage subsidies from the newly created FHA in order to obtain construction loans. After his real-estate business fell on hard times, he revived his firm during World War II by constructing FHA-backed housing for U.S. naval personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast. After the war, he continued to rely on FHA financing to construct apartment buildings in New York's outer boroughs.    https://prospect.org/economy/trump-s-housing-hypocrisy/

 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Not everybody who is against Trump is a "lefty". It is this labeling what makes it difficult to have a different view.

I only labelled the clearly lefty journos as lefty.

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

What conda is up to here is trying to make the political personal. And the reason he's trying to do that is because, basically, he's got nothing.

The only one I/we see that has nothing is you.

 

Trump haters never give up.  That fact alone will not get Harris living on Pennsylvania Avenue along.

 

That’s not how it works in America.

 

”We the People “. have spoken.  That’s how it works in America.

 

 

[save the frogs]

19 hours ago, candide said:

The other issue is demand. What is Trump doing to reduce demand? It's certainly not his simplistic and show-business style policies which will decrease demand for drug.

 

It is also interesting that you never complained about people or media just sitting on the sideline and complaining during Biden's mandate (and in particular from Trump and the MAGAsphere).

 

I don't think I was around during Biden's mandate. Were there daily threads about Biden on here? I missed it. 

 

What is Trump doing to reduce demand for drugs?

That's the problem right there. Govts can only step in after the fact with drones and military and surveillance at borders.

But the drug problem is a "spiritual" one. 

No one really knows how to stop people getting into dangerous drugs.

Maybe try being better parents to kids ... I wonder how many kids getting into drugs are from broken homes.

I don't know man.

 

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

What is Trump doing to reduce demand for drugs?

I'd suggest legalize them all, then sell them cheaply from bars and pharmacies.

Bad product gone, drug gangs gone, drug problem gone, drug crimes gone.

A win for everyone!

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'd suggest legalize them all, then sell them cheaply from bars and pharmacies.

Bad product gone, drug gangs gone, drug problem gone, drug crimes gone.

A win for everyone!

 

Well, what is fentanyl?

It's laced with other crap that's killing people?

I mean, how many deaths are caused by the drugs being laced vs straight up overdose?

And ... would people still turn into zombies if it wasn't laced? 

We don't want people dying, but neither do we want a bunch of zombies in the streets. 

Sorry, I don't know enough about drugs.

If Trump hires me and pays me 250K, I'll look into it. 

 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd suggest legalize them all, then sell them cheaply from bars and pharmacies.

Bad product gone, drug gangs gone, drug problem gone, drug crimes gone.

A win for everyone!

Or maybe propose cutting a program that supplies emergency responders with narcan, a drug that has saved thousands of drug abusers from death by overdose. Because that's what the Trump administration just did.