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Putin Proposes Renewed Peace Talks with Ukraine Amid International Pressure


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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Putin doesn't want peace.

Putin wants Ukraine.

This is just another round of game playing for propaganda purposes.

Putin wants parts of Ukraine not all of it. Zelensky doesn't want him to have it. Militarily Ukraine cannot win. The position of power in any negotiations/bargaining lies with Putin. This is a fact. 

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Just now, dinsdale said:

Putin wants parts of Ukraine not all of it. Zelensky doesn't want him to have it. Militarily Ukraine cannot win. The position of power in any negotiations/bargaining lies with Putin. This is a fact. 

No, that's totally wrong!

It's impossible to have a rational conversation with anyone who actually believes that Putin's goals are not MAXIMALIST. He wants to completely erase the sovereignty of Ukraine. Such people are either clueless or actively helping Putin spread his lies.

As far as "cards" as the vulgar moron Trump says, both Ukraine and Russia have cards.

Putin recently overplayed his hand and he's trying to recover from that.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No, that's totally wrong!

It's impossible to have a rational conversation with anyone who actually believes that Putin's goals are not MAXIMALIST. He wants to completely erase the sovereignty of Ukraine. Such people are either clueless or actively helping Putin spread his lies.

As far as "cards" as the vulgar moron Trump says, both Ukraine and Russia have cards.

Putin recently overplayed his hand and he's trying to recover from that.

putin has said the Ukraine in Nato was a red line, he said this years ago, dont you think if he really wanted to, as you hysterically say 'He wants to completely erase the sovereignty of Ukraine' why wait 20yrs?you keep on lapping up that propaganda  without questioning anything, if russia doesnt have any cards then how come they occupy 25% of Ukraine. time to wake up from your bubble

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Posted
4 hours ago, billd766 said:

Common sense 101 says that you take your own translators, otherwise you will only get told what the interpreters have been told to tell you, which may well not be what you need to hear.

 

Its not so much that, but there is no State Department  employee who could be called to recount under oath to recount what was said. I suspect the Russian translators will give an accurate translation to the American interlocateur. But there s no official transcript about what was said, or promises made.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

It has never been up to him what free nations want to do.

 

This is something the apologists either forget to mention, or don't understand.

What's with the large font, are you shouting your frothy little head off, bulging veins in your forehead?

 

Guess you are purposely ignoring the verbal agreements made back in the 90's regarding nato expansion.

 

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Why is it bait? You said remove the problem and the problem is Putin? Someone will replace him. You're just calling my post "bait" because it's something you have no answer to. Awaiting your usual deflection response.

Yeah - Dmitry Medvedev.  Be careful what you wish for Jing. Medvedev makes Putin sound like a dove.

Posted
11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Putin wants parts of Ukraine not all of it. Zelensky doesn't want him to have it. Militarily Ukraine cannot win. The position of power in any negotiations/bargaining lies with Putin. This is a fact. 

Confused again. It's your opinion, far from a fact.

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16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Putin doesn't want peace.

Putin wants Ukraine.

This is just another round of game playing for propaganda purposes.

and he still agreed to the 30 day cease fire, he's playing Trump and the orange guy doesn't see it. Putin just wants to play around and pretend he wants talks but that's not the purpose of the proposed meeting, it's just to get more and more delays as usual, not the slightest intention of negotiating anything, the EU and USA should just impose the sanctions and then Putin will see they are serious, if they don't do it he will keep playing them

Ukraine President agrees meeting with Putin this week

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ukraine-president-agrees-meeting-with-putin-this-week/ar-AA1EzK1j?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=095430c145ec4274908f442f9a11f501&ei=15

 

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15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The ONLY way Putin actually seriously negotiates is if he's FORCED to.

 

My take is that he needs to be forced MUCH HARDER for there to be any hope of that.

 

 

he has never been interested in anything leading to peace, he's only goal is to fool the west and mostly to play Trump, if he did had any intention of talks or negotiations he would have accepted the offer, instead to play Trump and later blame Zelensky if  no deal is made his asking/proposed to meet Zelensky, just another diversion nothing else

 

Putin stays silent on ceasefire and offers ‘direct talks’ with Ukraine in Istanbul

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/top-stories/putin-stays-silent-on-ceasefire-and-offers-direct-talks-with-ukraine-in-istanbul/ar-AA1ExBLd?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=095430c145ec4274908f442f9a11f501&ei=23

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

he has never been interested in anything leading to peace, he's only goal is to fool the west and mostly to play Trump, if he did had any intention of talks or negotiations he would have accepted the offer, instead to play Trump and later blame Zelensky if  no deal is made his asking/proposed to meet Zelensky, just another diversion nothing else

 

Putin stays silent on ceasefire and offers ‘direct talks’ with Ukraine in Istanbul

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/top-stories/putin-stays-silent-on-ceasefire-and-offers-direct-talks-with-ukraine-in-istanbul/ar-AA1ExBLd?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=095430c145ec4274908f442f9a11f501&ei=23

 

 

 

 

Yes, a very sad situation indeed. Both from Putin and from his persistent poodle Trump.

 

 

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