Breaking the Silence: Former UK Special Forces Reveal Allegations of War Crimes

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

There are about half a dozen hard lefties on this forum and they've already quickly waded in with their condemnation of the Brit Special Forces and NATO. The same ones that turn a blind eye to atrocities committed by the Taliban, Hamas, China, Russia etc

I regard myself a leftie and I’ve made numerous comments this thread.

 

Here’s a challenge for you, please identify with direct full quotations anything you believe I’ve said that constitutes condemnation by me of British Special Forces and/or NATO?

 

 

[sungod]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Unlike many other countries, including the US and France, the UK has no parliamentary oversight of its elite special forces regiments. Strategic responsibility for their actions falls ultimately to the prime minister, along with the defence secretary and head of special forces.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3j5gxgz0do

 

That sounds bad, but the Ministry of Defence has a good record of putting armed forces operatives on trial in such cases.

 

The truth will come out.

 

Not least because for once journalists are not busy lying but doing their job. Once again one has to applaud the British media.

 

The good old BEEB would never do anything wrong such as covering up pedophiles, Martin Bashir faking documents even down to the very same Panorama program staging scenes off Indian child laborers!  

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

The good old BEEB would never do anything wrong such as covering up pedophiles, Martin Bashir faking documents even down to the very same Panorama program staging scenes off Indian child laborers!  

Another attack on the source of the news selected for this thread.

[sungod]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Another attack on the source of the news selected for this thread.

 

Yes, absolutely agree.

 

Just demonstrating to the post I was replying to that the BEEB is prone to the odd porky pie too!

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I regard myself a leftie and I’ve made numerous comments this thread.

 

Here’s a challenge for you, please identify with direct full quotations anything you believe I’ve said that constitutes condemnation by me of British Special Forces and/or NATO?

 

 

 

   "This threads not all about me " 

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

What an inane statement. That's like saying alleged rapists can only be judged by rapists.

I doubt you would sit on any jury in real life yourself.

[BLMFem]

47 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I doubt you would sit on any jury in real life yourself.

That's right. Living in Thailand precludes me from being picked for jury duty.

[Bkk Brian]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm sure The Taliban were all sticking to the rules. 

Exactly, the British soldiers were handicapped in their missions and rules of engagement to the point of having to bait Taliban to come out and show themselves. Hence why so many British were killed over there.

 

"It's difficult really to 'fight' an enemy we're not allowed to fight. Under our rules of engagement we can only really return fire and sometimes it's very frustrating." 

 

British soldiers resort to 'baiting' Taliban to beat rules of engagement

Platoon commander describes frustration at being forced to lead troops 'to get shot at'

British soldiers in Afghanistan are being forced to act as bait in an attempt to draw the Taliban into opening fire, a serving platoon commander has alleged.

Soldiers are risking their lives to get round strict rules of engagement that allow them to shoot only if they are being attacked or are in "imminent danger".

The Taliban are increasingly exploiting the rules by hiding weapons in undergrowth near patrol routes – meaning British forces cannot act against them until they actually pick up their guns.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-soldiers-resort-to-baiting-taliban-to-beat-rules-of-engagement-8082165.html

[candide]

8 hours ago, connda said:

The West and their allies and proxies don't commit "War Crimes," that's all "Collateral Damage."
Don't 'cha know! 

Well, unlike in the country you usually claim not to be supporting, there is at least a chance of having such allegations investigated in NATO countries.

For example (it's about another case):

 

On 15 December 2022, the Government established an independent statutory inquiry to investigate matters arising from the deployment of British Special Forces to Afghanistan between mid-2010 and mid-2013. Lord Justice Sir Charles Haddon-Cave chairs the Inquiry.

https://www.iia.independent-inquiry.uk/

[Grusa]

Then there's Harry, the Ginger Whinger, who thinks he needs more security than the King, because he blabbed....., if it was even true.

[thaipo7]

10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

It is until it's heard in a court of law.

 

Let me know when that's happening. 

JonnyF - This guy probably believes everything he hears on CNN and MSNBC too.  Sounds like an useful idiot to me.

[JAG]

16 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

There needs to be a full and unimpeded police investigation now. Those alleged to have perpetrated these acts of murder should be charged accordingly. Those who helped cover up their crimes should be charged appropriately too. 

A full and unimpeded police investigation will be impossible to conduct. There is no way that forensic or witness evidence will exist in Afghanistan, and the police couldn't operate there anyway. It will boil down to allegations. 

 

I emphatically don't defend such acts, but I simply don't think that they can be proved.

[JAG]

16 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

There needs to be a full and unimpeded police investigation now. Those alleged to have perpetrated these acts of murder should be charged accordingly. Those who helped cover up their crimes should be charged appropriately too. 

A full and unimpeded police investigation will be impossible to conduct. There is no way that forensic or witness evidence will exist in Afghanistan, and the police couldn't operate there anyway. It will boil down to allegations. 

 

I emphatically don't defend such acts, but I simply don't think that they can be proved.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, JAG said:

A full and unimpeded police investigation will be impossible to conduct. There is no way that forensic or witness evidence will exist in Afghanistan, and the police couldn't operate there anyway. It will boil down to allegations. 

 

I emphatically don't defend such acts, but I simply don't think that they can be proved.

They can if there is corroborating sworn testimony.

 

 

[ericbj]

Eye-witnesses have gone public in producing evidence.
Without that there would be no news (i.e.public knowledge) of these accusations, or of anything else for that matter.  And no incentive for officialdom to take interest; but rather to sweep the matter under the carpet.

 

There should now be an official investigation.  Followed, if the evidence warrants it, by prosecutions.

 

If the accepted behaviour of British forces is to be determined by the behaviour of their opponents, this brings into question the reason they are there in the first place.

Perhaps nothing to do with human rights?  But perhaps the economic interests of vested interests?

[runamok27]

On 5/12/2025 at 8:44 PM, ChicagoExpat said:

The reality is alleged war crimes seldom get prosecuted by anyone.  That said, if you actually do care about following the rules of war, you're far more likely to see that with the West, as opposed to the Eastern nations you would seem to support.  Edit -- just saw in another thread that you are indeed a Putin supporter.  That was easy.

There are no rules of war. If you prosecute a war governed by rules you will lose. 

 

If another country attacks your country you do whatever you have to do to repel them. You absolutely do not follow any rules. 

 

You mention the west following rules. The west has not won a single war since they started following rules of war. We won World War II being ruthless and overwhelming both Germany and Japan. We showed them no mercy whatsoever. If we had followed rules we all would be dead or speaking German/Japanese now.