Trump Mocks France Over WWII Commemorations, Urges Greater U.S. Recognition

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, JimGant said:

They certainly didn't have the resources for rebuilding their depleted economies

Thats not destruction of infrastructure

[billd766]

19 hours ago, Anthony mellows said:

As far as I know nobody is stopping the US to have their own victory in Europe celebrations.

I suppose it would be up to the country that the USA wants to hold their celebrations in.

 

P somehow think that France would not entertain the idea.

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well based on your posts, Flamer, you havent read any.

 

Tell us what posts of mine you are referring to? Are you comparing the USA to the incipient National Socialist state? What facts support that? Tell us how the US constitution differs from the Weimar constitution? Since you dont even understand the philosophical basis of National Socialism, it would be fruitless to go further.

 

Tell us, was Joe Biden Competent to be President of the USA?

Did the Democrats lie to us about Joe Bidens mental acuity?

 

PS, when do you intend to apologize to the membership who you viciously insulted while defending the lies you spewed about Joe Bidens mental health.

But but but Joe Biden…

 

[theshu25]

The orange rapist ,con,draft dodger is in no position to be mocking anyone. The only real big joke out there ithe village idiot himself. If he actually really knew how many people know how much of a a joke the idiot is  to civilisation, he would retire tommorow. All the scum that are kissing hia ass daily have not the balls to tell him to his face that he is actually reviled amongst the people. Magas do not count,they are not normal people.

[Yagoda]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but Joe Biden…

 

Look at you squirm. How about that apology, flamer? 

[Felton Jarvis]

On 5/17/2025 at 10:18 AM, Yagoda said:

We won it. Thats the bottom line. Where we screwed up was not taking out Stalin.

It makes no difference what the truth is. The United States will ALWAYS be portrayed as the villain. The USA is hated worldwide.

[Cameroni]

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 The US decision to  deploy protection to some merchant marine vessels in the Atlantic shipping corridors  3 months prior to the declaration of war was self serving. The German U boats were attacking US and other neutral  vessels and it was impacting US economic interests. The Kriegsmarine did not have  Uboats with extended ranges that could make the voyage to the USA until 1942.

The USA restricted itself to the neutral shipping lanes.  USN - German interactions were limited in scope and even though there was some  US naval vessel damage and in one incident a loss of life, the engagements cannot be considered to be anything more than insignificant within the context of the  war. Had there been, the US would have declared war when they occurred.

 

Had it not been for Pearl Harbor, the USA would have been content to stay on the sidelines of the  European war, profiting from its sales to war ravaged Great Britain. Prior to 1941, Herr Hitler was a popular figure in the USA. Large rallies in support of the Nazis were not uncommon. In 1939, Madison Square Gardens in NYC was sold out with 20,000 nazis in attendance. One of the main speakers, at the rally, Gerhard Wilhelm Kunze, the national public relations director of the Bund, pointed to the white supremacy present at America's founding as a nation. "The spirit which opened the West and built our country is the spirit of the militant white man," he preached. He laid out his vision for a whites-only America, citing the foundation for it in the USA with the existing anti-miscegenation laws, the Chinese Exclusion Act, exclusion of afro americans  through Jim Crow policies and immigration quotas. "It has then always been very much American to protect the Aryan character of this nation," Kunze told the audience. There was an overwhelmingly anti immigrant bias.

 

No, that's a misreading. The US had entered WWII  long before Germany declared war on the US. You conveniently ignore for instance that the US had supplied 50 destroyers to the UK in 1940.

 

In addition the US had placed a total embargo on Japan in 1940, knowing full well that starving Japan of oil would have consequences.

 

The US Flying Tigers pilots, assembled with presidential authority, fought with China against Japan since 1937. 

 

The US had expanded its "Pan American Security Zone" as far as Iceland. (!). In no way did the US restrict itself to neutral shipping lanes.

 

The US Navy's "neutrality patrols" were not actually neutral as, in practice, their function was to report Axis ship and submarine sightings to the British and Canadian navies, and from April the US Navy began escorting Allied convoys from Canada as far as the "Mid-Atlantic Meeting Point" (MOMP) south of Iceland, where they handed off to the RN.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

 

The US was not on the sidelines, but took an active part to support the UK and Russia, before Germany declared war.

 

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

17 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

It makes no difference what the truth is. The United States will ALWAYS be portrayed as the villain. The USA is hated worldwide.

No mostly among the elites. Regular folks outside the brainwashed Muslim world love the USA

[Yagoda]

45 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I suppose it would be up to the country that the USA wants to hold their celebrations in.

 

P somehow think that France would not entertain the idea.

Well they did plant lovely trees along the Champs d'Elysee for the Germans to march in the shade.

[Yagoda]

13 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Large rallies in support of the Nazis were not uncommon. In 1939, Madison Square Gardens in NYC was sold out with 20,000 nazis in attendance. One of the main speakers, at the rally, Gerhard Wilhelm Kunze, the national public relations director of the Bund, pointed to the white supremacy present at America's founding as a nation. "The spirit which opened the West and built our country is the spirit of the militant white man," he preached. He laid out his vision for a whites-only America, citing the foundation for it in the USA with the existing anti-miscegenation laws, the Chinese Exclusion Act, exclusion of afro americans  through Jim Crow policies and immigration quotas. "It has then always been very much American to protect the Aryan character of this nation," Kunze told the audience.

Was that before Meyer Lansky, Buggsy Siegel, Lepke Buchhalter, and the Jewish Murder Inc boys busted up the Bund rallies so bad they never had one again?

[Yagoda]

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Look at you squirm. How about that apology, flamer? 

Look at the emojinauts with their thumbs down emojis, above. LOL.

 

Where is the apology from any of you bold faced liars? How bout just an abject "I was wrong" LOL.

 

Liars and losers.

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, JimGant said:

What stupidity, maintaining loyalty to the British Crown. And thus throwing your lads into that meat grinder against the krauts, with no need, as your own countries are completely safe from any German attack. And for the Aussies and Kiwis -- come Dec 7th -- their countries are now wide-open to Japanese attack, 'cause their lads are all fighting the European war. Fortunately, the US had a vested interest in preventing the Japanese from occupying Australia and New Zealand.

Madness.

 

Trump's ignorance on the French participation in WWII  demonstrates the usual American poor education. 90,000+  died defending against the  German invasion. 2 million french military personnel were forced into slave labour camps to serve Germany. There 300,000 Free French forces who participated in the North Africa campaign and the liberation of Europe after D Day. By 1944, once France  had been liberated, the Free French forces had in excess of 500,000 personnel, and then by 1945, over 1 million.

 

Canada's participation wasn't about loyalty to the crown. It was about doing the right thing. The declaration of war was not automatic and was debated in parliament.  Canadians had already volunteered to fight the fascists in Spain, enough to  form the Mackenzie Papineau Battalion. Had the world stopped Germany's intervention in Spain,  Europe might have been able to  hold off a war. You do not  see a need to have fought against the Nazis and their evil. That says more about you than anything else.

 

The Canadian military volunteers were a diverse people. Irish and Scottish heritage Canadians volunteered in large numbers and they had no love for the English. French Canadians volunteered in large numbers providing  20%+ of the military / 160,000+  and many of them gave their lives in the months following D Day. Every region had people who had links or origins in Europe and who had an understanding of the cancer that was spreading .

 

Despite some  Japanese air raids, most of Australia was safe. Neither Australia nor New Zealand was open to invasion by Japan. Nor could have Japan managed to invade and capture them. Australia's  geography and New Zealand's location offered  a tremendous advantage. More importantly, the population of the two countries would have fought until the end to stop an invasion. The Australians quickly responded and after the initial shock of the bombing of Darwin,  and effectively defended against the threat. After that, the best the Japanese could do was a few mini submarine attacks. The Australian strategy that  prevented the Japanese  capture and hold of Papua New Guinea motivated the island hopping strategy used by the USA to defeat Japan in the Pacific. campaign.

The  Germans feared the Canadian  military in Europe and the Japanese  feared the Australian and New Zealand  military in the Pacific. That's all you need to know.

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[Patong2021]

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Was that before Meyer Lansky, Buggsy Siegel, Lepke Buchhalter, and the Jewish Murder Inc boys busted up the Bund rallies so bad they never had one again?

 

The Bund rallies and their  friends at the Silver League came to a halt after Dec 7, 1941. The US Congress took action against them as they were considered enemy agent events.

[Patong2021]

19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well they did plant lovely trees along the Champs d'Elysee for the Germans to march in the shade.

 

The USA had many trees from which Afro Americans were lynched. Do you blame the people who planted the trees  for the lynchings too?

[Patong2021]

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, that's a misreading. The US had entered WWII  long before Germany declared war on the US. You conveniently ignore for instance that the US had supplied 50 destroyers to the UK in 1940.

 

In addition the US had placed a total embargo on Japan in 1940, knowing full well that starving Japan of oil would have consequences.

 

The US Flying Tigers pilots, assembled with presidential authority, fought with China against Japan since 1937. 

 

The US had expanded its "Pan American Security Zone" as far as Iceland. (!). In no way did the US restrict itself to neutral shipping lanes.

 

The US Navy's "neutrality patrols" were not actually neutral as, in practice, their function was to report Axis ship and submarine sightings to the British and Canadian navies, and from April the US Navy began escorting Allied convoys from Canada as far as the "Mid-Atlantic Meeting Point" (MOMP) south of Iceland, where they handed off to the RN.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

 

The US was not on the sidelines, but took an active part to support the UK and Russia, before Germany declared war.

 

 

The destroyers the US provided were leftovers from WWI and were obsolete. So many were in bad shape that only 30 could be put into service a year later. The hulls leaked, the engines  had not been maintained. They were  easily damaged.

 

The USA's  oil embargo on Japan was intended to slow Japanese expansion and to protect  US interests in places like the Philippines.

 

The US escorting activity prior to the declaration war was almost always in neutral shipping lanes and was  primarily in respect to US flagged vessels.  Yes, USN  were dispatched as far north as Iceland, but the  lack of active engagements speaks to the low risk activity. You can count the engagements on one hand.  The fact is that the  kriegsmarine U boats   did not have an expanded range until 1942. Germany did not have enough U boats to successfully attack   convoys in the Atlantic until late 1942. In 1940, the kriegsmarine  only had 22  U boats with the range  that could allow Atlantic operations. More importantly, the Germans  were trying to avoid contact with the USN as they did not wish to  give Roosevelt a reason to enter the war.

[Yagoda]

31 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The Bund rallies and their  friends at the Silver League came to a halt after Dec 7, 1941. The US Congress took action against them as they were considered enemy agent events.

Stop watching TV and read.

https://www.amazon.com/Gangsters-vs-Nazis-Mobsters-Battled/dp/0806541806

[JimGant]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Thats not destruction of infrastructure

Well, yeah. But because of the war you don't have the resources to maintain that infrastructure, and it falls down.....

Nevermind.

[Cameroni]

46 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The US escorting activity prior to the declaration war was almost always in neutral shipping lanes

 

If the  US was so neutral why did they do recon in the Atlantic to notify the UK and Canadian navies?

 

If they were so intent on avoiding confrontation why did they extend the "Pan American Security Zone" all the way to freakin' Iceland?

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

It makes no difference what the truth is. The United States will ALWAYS be portrayed as the villain. The USA is hated worldwide.

How do you think you history looks like on the paper? Good deeds vs bad deeds? How is that changing as we speak? 

 

Quite interesting isn't it?

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Canada's participation wasn't about loyalty to the crown. It was about doing the right thing. The declaration of war was not automatic and was debated in parliament.  Canadians had already volunteered to fight the fascists in Spain, enough to  form the Mackenzie Papineau Battalion. Had the world stopped Germany's intervention in Spain,  Europe might have been able to  hold off a war. You do not  see a need to have fought against the Nazis and their evil. That says more about you than anything else.

 

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-leader-post-police-hold-technocrat-h/101818960/

 

Canadian people like Joshua Haldeman and Howard Scott got themselves arrested in WW2 for distributing maps like this, vaguely treasonous.

 

 

Haldeman eventually emigrated to South Africa as he thought Apartheid was a great idea........

[Felton Jarvis]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

How do you think you history looks like on the paper? Good deeds vs bad deeds? How is that changing as we speak? 

 

Quite interesting isn't it?

Well, I HAVE noticed that the USA has been at war for most of its history. Indeed, it does NOT look good on paper but that is not the fault of Americans. Most of us realize that although we can vote, very little will be left up to a vote regarding military action. The closest we came was the reaction against the Vietnam War. Blaming the Yanks for all the world's problems is a bit short-sighted

[Hummin]

19 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

Well, I HAVE noticed that the USA has been at war for most of its history. Indeed, it does NOT look good on paper but that is not the fault of Americans. Most of us realize that although we can vote, very little will be left up to a vote regarding military action. The closest we came was the reaction against the Vietnam War. Blaming the Yanks for all the world's problems is a bit short-sighted

We all agree the world is a crazy place and we the normal are just passengers. Still it doesn't mean we should stop debating and think rationally? 

 

American culture is built on blood slavery and genocide, what do you think that does to its people? What is the long term impact going from one war to another where every generation had its own war with casualties and loss? Always look for an enemy, and right now it seems their allies is the enemy more than murderous states and countries! 

 

One day we will accept the indigenous will claim back their land and support them no matter what, even it is already a 1000 year old history or more