Huge crowd piles pressure on Dutch government to seek an end to Israel's campaign in Gaza

[proton]

There is NO Palestine, and never was

[mogandave]

21 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

So you're cool with ethnic cleansing?

So you’re okay with the eradication of Israel?

 

 

[runamok27]

On 5/19/2025 at 2:31 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

Can't imagine why anyone sides with Israel!

 

Imagine bombings in your country...

We would never murder and kidnap Israelis so they would never be bombing us.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, proton said:

There is NO Palestine, and never was

 

   Pro Palestinians  are trying to distance themselves from Oct 7 th , saying it wasn't them and it was Hamas .

   Palestinians need to own the events of Oct 7 th and accept responsibly for it .

They claim to have a Country, then their country must accept responsibility for their actions 

[billd766]

11 hours ago, proton said:

There is NO Palestine, and never was

More BS post from you.

 

Try doing some research before you post.

 

There actually was NO Israel before it was carved out pf Palestine in 1948, by the USA from the British administration which inherited it from the League of Nations which won it from the Turkish Ottoman empire after WW1.

 

British administered Palestine

 

The Balfour Declaration was a 1917 letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, expressing the British government's support for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". This declaration, while a pivotal moment in the history of Zionism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, has a complex and debated legacy. 

 

How long has Palestine been in existence

 

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The term "Palestine" as a geographic area has a long history, dating back to ancient times. While the region has been inhabited for millennia, the name "Palestine" itself has been used in different contexts over time. The term "Palestine" is derived from the Greek word Philistia, which was associated with the Philistines, a group that inhabited the area around the 12th century BCE. The word "Palestine" itself doesn't appear in written records until the 5th century BCE. 
Here's a more detailed look at the history:

 

However I would not expect anything better from you, who obviously has never researched or studied history. 

 

You can bluster and shout all you like, yet you are still wrong, unless of course you can back your claim up with verifiable facts and links.

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, billd766 said:

More BS post from you.

 

Try doing some research before you post.

 

There actually was NO Israel before it was carved out pf Palestine in 1948, by the USA from the British administration which inherited it from the League of Nations which won it from the Turkish Ottoman empire after WW1.

 

British administered Palestine

 

The Balfour Declaration was a 1917 letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, expressing the British government's support for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". This declaration, while a pivotal moment in the history of Zionism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, has a complex and debated legacy. 

 

How long has Palestine been in existence

 

AI Overview
Learn more
The term "Palestine" as a geographic area has a long history, dating back to ancient times. While the region has been inhabited for millennia, the name "Palestine" itself has been used in different contexts over time. The term "Palestine" is derived from the Greek word Philistia, which was associated with the Philistines, a group that inhabited the area around the 12th century BCE. The word "Palestine" itself doesn't appear in written records until the 5th century BCE. 
Here's a more detailed look at the history:

 

However I would not expect anything better from you, who obviously has never researched or studied history. 

 

You can bluster and shout all you like, yet you are still wrong, unless of course you can back your claim up with verifiable facts and links.

So, you are cool with the eradication if Israel? 

[Sierra Tango]

16 minutes ago, billd766 said:

More BS post from you.

 

Try doing some research before you post.

 

There actually was NO Israel before it was carved out pf Palestine in 1948, by the USA from the British administration which inherited it from the League of Nations which won it from the Turkish Ottoman empire after WW1.

 

British administered Palestine

 

The Balfour Declaration was a 1917 letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, expressing the British government's support for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". This declaration, while a pivotal moment in the history of Zionism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, has a complex and debated legacy. 

 

How long has Palestine been in existence

 

AI Overview
Learn more
The term "Palestine" as a geographic area has a long history, dating back to ancient times. While the region has been inhabited for millennia, the name "Palestine" itself has been used in different contexts over time. The term "Palestine" is derived from the Greek word Philistia, which was associated with the Philistines, a group that inhabited the area around the 12th century BCE. The word "Palestine" itself doesn't appear in written records until the 5th century BCE. 
Here's a more detailed look at the history:

 

However I would not expect anything better from you, who obviously has never researched or studied history. 

 

You can bluster and shout all you like, yet you are still wrong, unless of course you can back your claim up with verifiable facts and links.

AI produced overviews are not facts and links. You can bluster all you like but you can't verify AI garbage.

[Yellowtail]

Jews lived in the area thousands of years before Islam was invented. 

 

 

[billd766]

3 minutes ago, Sierra Tango said:

AI produced overviews are not facts and links. You can bluster all you like but you can't verify AI garbage.

So prove me wrong with facts, figures and verifiable links instead of failing to answer the question? Or is your unsupported word supposed to be good enough?

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So prove me wrong with facts, figures and verifiable links instead of failing to answer the question? Or is your unsupported word supposed to be good enough?

So, you're cool with the eradication of Israel? 

[bannork]

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Leo XIV on Wednesday appealed for Israel to allow humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza strip, calling the situation in the Palestinian enclave "yet more worrying and saddening".

"I renew my appeal … to allow for the entry of fair humanitarian help and to bring to an end the hostilities, the high price of which is paid by children, the elderly and the sick," the pope said during his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square.

Pope Leo appeals for Israel to allow humanitarian aid in Gaza

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Leo XIV on Wednesday appealed for Israel to allow humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza strip, calling the situation in the Palestinian enclave "yet more worrying and saddening".

"I renew my appeal … to allow for the entry of fair humanitarian help and to bring to an end the hostilities, the high price of which is paid by children, the elderly and the sick," the pope said during his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square.

Pope Leo appeals for Israel to allow humanitarian aid in Gaza

Do you support the eradication of Israel? 

[Magictoad]

The Dutch government has zero influence in the middle east.  Less in Israel.

[Magictoad]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Jews lived in the area thousands of years before Islam was invented. 

 

 

Exactly; people forget Islam is a modern synthetic "religion" invented to fight Jewry & Christianity.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, bannork said:

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Leo XIV on Wednesday appealed for Israel to allow humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza strip, calling the situation in the Palestinian enclave "yet more worrying and saddening".

"I renew my appeal … to allow for the entry of fair humanitarian help and to bring to an end the hostilities, the high price of which is paid by children, the elderly and the sick," the pope said during his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square.

Pope Leo appeals for Israel to allow humanitarian aid in Gaza

That was yesterday, nearly 100 trucks have already entered since then..........

[stevenl]

19 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

The Dutch government has zero influence in the middle east.  Less in Israel.

On several levels there are ties between the Dutch with Israel and Israeli institutions.

So your statement is incorrect.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

On several levels there are ties between the Dutch with Israel and Israeli institutions.

So your statement is incorrect.

That there may be "ties", does not mean they have influence. 

 

So your statement is incorrect.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

On several levels there are ties between the Dutch with Israel and Israeli institutions.

So your statement is incorrect.

"Massive protest won't change Dutch government's Israel policy: Foreign Min. spokesperson"

[MangoKorat]

22 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

Yes, indeed.  The Palestinians of Gaza are the people I with whom I would find it the hardest to side.  During WW II, the leadership of Palestine sided with the Nazis and supported the Holocaust.  They have always opposed the state of Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews.  I can't unsee the images of Palestinians celebrating the Oct. 7 attacks, 

 

Palestinians In Gaza And The West Bank Celebrate On October 7, Hand Out Sweets, Fire Guns In The Air, Following Hamas's Invasion And Massacre Of Israeli Civilians In The Gaza Envelope

 

 

https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-gaza-west-bank-celebrate-october-seven-massacre-hand-out-sweets-fire-guns

 

 

 

Because Israel is the best option for the survival of the Jewish people in the face of any renewed attempt at the Holocaust.  Jews won't walk quietly into the ovens next time round.  Never again is now.

 

 

Antisemitism is the irrational hatred of Jews that's been going on for at least 2,000 years and culminated in the massacre of six million Jews during WW II,  The goal of antisemitism, past and present, has always been the eradication of the Jewish people.  Zionism is the best guarantee that doesn't happen.

Hard to explain just how much I disagree with you but we could go on forever on this topic.

 

I'm no supporter of Musilm ideologies and I'm very aware that there are problems just about everywhere that Muslims exist but.........to get a grasp of where you are coming from - what's your explanation of the fact that Jewish 'settlers' often with the blessing and assistance of the Jewish State are stealing land in the West Bank?  It is a noted fact that these 'settlers' have been involved in the murder of previous occupants of the land they steal. Despite Netanyahu's claims to the contrary, very few have been prosecuted for such actions and even fewer have been convicted. Netanyahu claims they will be dealt with and then announces more 'settlements'.

 

What contribution do you think the 'settlers' and their actions have made to the situation in Palestine over the last few years?

 

Do you think that Israel's virtual takeover of Jerusalem, supported by Trumps moving of the US Embassy to that city was at all imflamatory? By what right does Israel lay claim to Jerusalem?

 

 

[MangoKorat]

On 5/20/2025 at 11:36 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Worse than what happened on Oct 7 th ?

It would be extremely difficult to get "worse" then what happened on Oct 7 th ?

How can it get worse than that ?

50,000 worse

[MangoKorat]

On 5/20/2025 at 11:34 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No it isn't against International law .

Hamas receive those supplies and Israel can legally refuse to supply Hamas .

Its a legitimate act of war 

It absolutely IS against International Law.  Israel has a duty to provide food and water to the civillian population of Gaza - fact.  This has been stated many many times by both the UN and lawyers.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Hard to explain just how much I disagree with you but we could go on forever on this topic.

 

I'm no supporter of Musilm ideologies and I'm very aware that there are problems just about everywhere that Muslims exist but.........to get a grasp of where you are coming from - what's your explanation of the fact that Jewish 'settlers' often with the blessing and assistance of the Jewish State are stealing land in the West Bank?  It is a noted fact that these 'settlers' have been involved in the murder of previous occupants of the land they steal. Despite Netanyahu's claims to the contrary, very few have been prosecuted for such actions and even fewer have been convicted. Netanyahu claims they will be dealt with and then announces more 'settlements'.

 

What contribution do you think the 'settlers' and their actions have made to the situation in Palestine over the last few years?

 

Do you think that Israel's virtual takeover of Jerusalem, supported by Trumps moving of the US Embassy to that city was at all imflamatory? By what right does Israel lay claim to Jerusalem?

 

 

Jews lived in Jerusalem long before there were Muslims there trying to exterminate them.

 

Incidentally, I think every US president for the last forty years promised to move the embassy to Jerusalem. 

 

Do you support the eradication of Israel? 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

50,000 worse

Do you support the eradication of Israel? 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, MangoKorat said:

It absolutely IS against International Law.  Israel has a duty to provide food and water to the civillian population of Gaza - fact.  This has been stated many many times by both the UN and lawyers.

What international law mandates Israel provide food and water to the civilian population of Gaza?

[MangoKorat]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Do you support the eradication of Israel? 

Not at all.

 

The current situation is extremely difficult.  Even in my country (UK) where Musilms, Jews and Christians live side by side - there is an undercurrent of bad feeling towards Muslims and to a lesser extent against Jews. I think the reason for that is cultural.

 

For both cultures, their religion is central to their daily life. It controls their thinking, their laws and how they live, its all pervasive.  I don't think that the two cultures could live together but neither should be allowed to exterminate the other. They both have aims that are un-achievable.

 

Hard, and fraught with problems as it is - a solution/separation will have to be imposed on both parties in order to achieve peace.  Not that I think that will ever happen but I don't see any other way to sort the problem out. 

 

For years. the Muslim hardliners have provoked and attacked Israel and for years, Israel has grabbed land using those attacks as an excuse.  The rest of the world has simply stood by and watched that happen and then yelled when its too late.  This has just happened once again - Israel's response to the 7 October attack has been massively disproportionate - just look at Gaza, its a pile of rubble. 

 

Its been clear to me what Israel is really up to for a long time but only now have some governments had the balls to say enough!

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Not at all.

 

The current situation is extremely difficult.  Even in my country (UK) where Musilms, Jews and Christians live side by side - there is an undercurrent of bad feeling towards Muslims and to a lesser extent against Jews. I think the reason for that is cultural.

 

For both cultures, their religion is central to their daily life. It controls their thinking, their laws and how they live, its all pervasive.  I don't think that the two cultures could live together but neither should be allowed to exterminate the other. They both have aims that are un-achievable.

 

Hard, and fraught with problems as it is - a solution/separation will have to be imposed on both parties in order to achieve peace.  Not that I think that will ever happen but I don't see any other way to sort the problem out. 

 

For years. the Muslim hardliners have provoked and attacked Israel and for years, Israel has grabbed land using those attacks as an excuse.  The rest of the world has simply stood by and watched that happen and then yelled when its too late.  This has just happened once again - Israel's response to the 7 October attack has been massively disproportionate - just look at Gaza, its a pile of rubble. 

 

Its been clear to me what Israel is really up to for a long time but only now have some governments had the balls to say enough!

Do you think Hamas, and those that support Hamas wish eradicate Israel? 

[MangoKorat]

28 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What international law mandates Israel provide food and water to the civilian population of Gaza?

International Humanitarion Law.

 

In addition, Israel is defying an order from the International Court of Justice that they take:

 

“immediate and effective measures” to protect Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip from the risk of genocide by ensuring sufficient humanitarian assistance and enabling basic services'

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/

 

I'm a litte surprised by your question - I thought it was common knowledge.  In addition Netanyahu is on record as stating that he will not comply.

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/110716/humanitarian-aid-gaza-israel-supreme-court/

 

I could provide you with reams of evidence but its all freely available and its quite clear that intermational law obligates Israel to provide humanitarian assistance to Gaza's civillian population. 

 

 

[MangoKorat]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you think Hamas, and those that support Hamas wish eradicate Israel? 

They have stated as much yes - what's your point?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

International Humanitarion Law.

 

In addition, Israel is defying an order from the International Court of Justice that they take:

 

“immediate and effective measures” to protect Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip from the risk of genocide by ensuring sufficient humanitarian assistance and enabling basic services'

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/

 

 

No it does not. Not when Hamas has been stealing the aid. You need to check that law you've referenced. 

[Bkk Brian]

55 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

50,000 worse

Really? You do know that is Hamas figures and does not distinguish the thousands of its own terrorists killed in that number. Pure misinformation