Report Thailand Sees a Surge in COVID-19 Cases: Concerns for Public Health

[dinsdale]

20 minutes ago, jayboy said:

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47 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

deleted. This was meant to be your comment. I'll try again.

[johng]

3 minutes ago, VBF said:

Nobody said you MUST get vaccinated

Wrong...how quickly you forget.

[VBF]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Wrong...how quickly you forget.

Nobody in UK was forced to vaccinate, but for a while there were restrictions on those who didn't - therefore a choice. Said restrictions then went away when the majority had some immunity from....vaccination!

[markus]

23 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

A full lockdown of the entire country would be much better.

 

Hashtag lockdown Thailand now.

What a stupid answer that is!

[dinsdale]

24 minutes ago, jayboy said:

Some, perhaps the majority, are common to both. Don't really get your point.

6 hours ago, jayboy said:

Covid symptoms are not akin to the common cold - I know having experienced both.

Ok. So which is it.? Akin to and common to being interchangeable terms in this context.

[johng]

10 minutes ago, VBF said:

Nobody in UK was forced to vaccinate, but for a while there were restrictions on those who didn't

 

You mean like if they wanted to keep their job  that kind of "choice"

 

That is not a choice  that is an ultimatum  and is also known as coercion  which is against the Geneva Convention...

[MaskLover2025]

5 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I agree - Out of curiosity, did you return to your home country or relocate to a neighboring one? 
 

I came back for a couple of weeks recently. Now, I just lead a nomadic lifestyle, traveling to different places every few months. At the beginning of the year, I was in Central America - Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua e.t.c and wow, what a contrast, no masks to be seen anywhere, and people were so sincere and friendly. Thailand used to be like this, but masks are a total vibe killer and make a mockery of its 'Land of Smiles' tagline. In fact, it is actually rather insulting to other countries for them to cling onto to this, since other countries are far more deserving of this title.

[VBF]

5 minutes ago, johng said:

 

You mean like if they wanted to keep their job  that kind of "choice"

 

That is not a choice  that is an ultimatum  and is also known a coercion  which is against the Geneva Convention...

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

You might as well say that not bathing and going to work stinking is OK and you can't be told to clean up or leave!

[MaskLover2025]

5 hours ago, Tomtomtom69 said:

 

Totally agree. Zero critical thinking in place. I laugh now when I walk past a masked zombie. I also ask people why they're wearing them. It's just stupid. 

Yes, it is terrifying how nearly none of them can muster a mildly coherent answer to such a simple question - they are totally devoid of even basic critical thinking. The education system in Thailand does a fine job indocrinating its populace to become as sheepish as is humanly possible.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, 1FinickyOne said:

4 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean like my Pfizer injury?

sure, why not? But I have no idea about your injury... maybe I dozed off during the news one day.

 

You probably weren't sleeping.  For years, any mention of vaccine injuries would get you banned and deleted.

 

[blaze master]

4 hours ago, chuang said:

Why are you still here...

 

Who are you ?

[johng]

4 minutes ago, VBF said:

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

We I think you are the "funny" one     you say it is none of your business if vaxed or not ..then say it was not  required/mandated/coerced..

now you call it discipline,

ties in well with my military grade syop "conspiracy theory" 

The military are big on  discipline.

 

"military discipline."

Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

 

[blaze master]

23 minutes ago, markus said:

What a stupid answer that is!

 

Who brought the fun sponge.

[VBF]

Just now, johng said:

We I think you are the "funny" one     you say it is none of your business if vaxed or not ..then say it was not  required/mandated/coerced..

now you call it discipline,

ties in well with my military grade syop "conspiracy theory" 

The military are big on  discipline.

 

"military discipline."

Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

 

Yup! At the time, it was (or should have been) "you don't have to be vaxxed - just don't mix with others if you're not".

Now it doesn't matter as all the sensible, thinking people have been vaxxed.

 

As for discipline- it's a necessary facet of mixing with others - again a choice if you don't want to mix with others.

In most work places, military or civilian  there are rules to which you implicitly agree to abide by when you take a job: behaviour, timekeeping, dress codes etc. This is just another of them.

[dinsdale]

38 minutes ago, VBF said:

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

You might as well say that not bathing and going to work stinking is OK and you can't be told to clean up or leave!

Friend of mine teaching in Bangkok was told get jabbed or lose their job. Quite bizarre that anyone can call this "discipline". Simply one of the most stupid comments I've seen about people being forced into getting jabbed or lose their livelihood.

[Zapitapi]

the test kits used do not and can not identify COV SARS 2.. they couldnt a few years ago nor can they now..anyway loads of peeps still watching TV and will be scared..again!

 

what boggles the mind is that the info is ready available from reputable sources everywhere if one would take the time to look at it..but hey its your life.. obey and do what ur told:)

[VBF]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Friend of mine teaching in Bangkok was told get jabbed or lose their job. Quite bizarre that anyone can call this "discipline". Simply one of the most stupid comments I've heard about people being forced into getting jabbed or lose their livelihood.

You say that as if getting jabbed was such an onerous task!

It just is so quick and easy with such a positive outcome. As I say, I (and everyone I know) has had several - my friend who's 75 had his sixth booster a few weeks ago. As with the 'flu jab, he had a sore arm and minor symptoms for a day or so.  

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, VBF said:

You say that as if getting jabbed was such an onerous task!

It just is so quick and easy with such a positive outcome. As I say, I (and everyone I know) has had several - my friend who's 75 had his sixth booster a few weeks ago. As with the 'flu jab, he had a sore arm and minor symptoms for a day or so.  

Pitiful deflection. You say not having the freedom to chose and being forced to have the jab is some sort of "discipline". This is simply unhinged. As for "positive outcomes" the jury's in when it comes to mRNA vaccine injuries with mountains of evidence. I'm sure people who have been injured by the mRNA jabs would love to have a "chat" with you.

[VBF]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Pitiful deflection. You say not having the freedom to chose and being forced to have the jab is some sort of "discipline". This is simply unhinged. As for "positive outcomes" the jury's in when it comes to mRNA vaccine injuries with mountains of evidence. I'm sure people who have been injured by the mRNA jabs would love to have a "chat" with you.

I always had the freedom to choose, so no deflection at all.

 

Look at it this way.

In UK covid is largely seen as recent history, mainly because when vaccination became available, there was an enormous take-up and restrictions were lifted quite quickly.

In Thailand where I believe fewer people were vaccinated for whatever reasons, covid is on the rise again and the unvaccinated will likely suffer.

Here in UK I see very few people wearing masks; people have resumed all types of social interaction. OK Thais wore masks before covid possibly because of the earlier SARS issues, and sometimes because of poor air quality.

 

Discipline can be self-enforced as well as mandated - no one forced me to be vaccinated - I chose to be and do not regret any one of them. Had I not, I might have been prevented from accessing some areas for a short time - that's also now history.

 

With any vaccine, some people unfortunately suffer side effects - look at the percentage of those compared with the majority who've benefitted - it's sad but that's how life is sometimes.  This is not a drug scandal like Thalidomide was, it's an unfortunate few for whom the vaccine didn't work. As I say, sad but part of life.

[dinsdale]

48 minutes ago, VBF said:

I always had the freedom to choose, so no deflection at all.

 

You may have had the freedom to chose but huge numbers didn't. I gave you one example of a teacher friend in Bangkok. Get jabbed or lose your job. Here's some more examples that involved thousands if not tens of thousands. The military, police, firefighters and nurses. Get jabbed or endanger your livelihood. Explain how this is some sort of "discipline" which is what you previously said it is. Any "self discipline" was from those who weren't coerced into taking an experimental "vaccine".

[VBF]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

You may have had the freedom to chose but huge numbers didn't. I gave you one example of a teacher friend in Bangkok. Get jabbed or lose your job. Here's some more examples that involved thousands if not tens of thousands. The military, police, firefighters and nurses. Get jabbed or endanger your livelihood. Explain how this is some sort of "discipline" which is what you previously said it is.

If you do such jobs you do what is required...BUT in this case the jab was such an obvious benefit to all, that such people, who are usually intelligent wouldn't have had a problem with it.

Do you personally know any of the people in occupations you listed who refused to be jabbed? I know a few local coppers and they all leaped at the jabs as soon as they were available. Could call that self-discipline.

Those who refused were listening to conspiracy nonsense, of which there was a lot!

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, plahgat said:

You mean it wasn´t  Covid?

I tested positive every time!

This year I even did 3 tests to be sure, 2 nasal and one saliva, all showed positive for Covid-19.

I also tested for Flu A & B, but was negative.

Symptoms all consistent with Covid, only I didn´t get a stuffy and congested nose this time!

Most symptomatic except constant fever and fatigue is the dryness of your mouth and throat and lack of taste and smell!

You got that strange metallic taste in your mouth all the time making you loose your appetite, and kind of feel nauseous.

Even today 2 months later my tongue and mouth still feels a bit dry, but my sense of taste is slowly coming back.

I have become very sensitive to smells though, and can smell a person with deodorant from miles away!😆

 

 

No, I meant your immune system doesn't seem up to par and that's exacerbating the illness.

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, VBF said:

Those who refused were listening to conspiracy nonsense,

Conspiracy nonsense like mRNA can cause injury. mRNA "vaccine" hasn't been tested properly. This of course is no longer a conspiracy and those that were saying it (i.e. the conspiracy theorists) were correct.

[VBF]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Conspiracy nonsense like mRNA can cause injury. mRNA "vaccine" hasn't been tested properly. This of course is no longer a conspiracy and those that were saying it (i.e. the conspiracy theorists) were correct.

You talked about deflecting earlier, but you consistently fail to respond to my comments showing that the weight of evidence agrees with me.

You also consistently bring out a minority of unfortunate issues, which I have agreed do happen unfortunately. Fact of life.

In this instance, I know I'm on the right path, you sir are at best, misguided, and looking for an argument.

 

My last word on this increasingly pointless debate.

[BangkokReady]

23 hours ago, dinsdale said:

On 5/19/2025 at 4:51 PM, snoop1130 said:

official statistics omit many unreported cases, especially those of people who do not visit hospitals.

People don't go to hospital because they don't need to. Symptoms akin to the common cold don't usually necessitate going to hospital.

 

Also, Thais have been going to hospital for mild to no symptoms since covid came on the scene.

[ianwheldale]

Can't remember the exact country but I remember it was in Africa. Vaccines administered zero, Convid cases, zero. In my house 2 people, no jabs, no infections.

[johng]

13 minutes ago, VBF said:

a minority of unfortunate issues, which I have agreed do happen unfortunately. Fact of life.

In this instance, I know I'm on the right path, you sir are at best, misguided

 

I'm afraid it is you who are misguided  there have been a large amount of "unfortunate issues"   there is also a huge surge of excess deaths which are baffling the greatest medical minds  and another huge plummet of fertility..what on earth could it be ???

 

Here is a clue..

Rates of Successful Conceptions According to COVID-19 Vaccination Status: Data from the Czech Republic

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202504.2487/v1

Birth rates about 30% lower in vaccinated v unvaccinated women

[Patong2021]

35 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Conspiracy nonsense like mRNA can cause injury. mRNA "vaccine" hasn't been tested properly. This of course is no longer a conspiracy and those that were saying it (i.e. the conspiracy theorists) were correct.

 

The mRNA covid vaccines now have multiple years of use. The clinical  evidence shows that they are safe. The benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the  very small number of adverse events.

[Patong2021]

19 minutes ago, ianwheldale said:

Can't remember the exact country but I remember it was in Africa. Vaccines administered zero, Convid cases, zero. In my house 2 people, no jabs, no infections.

 

Sure.  And one can surmise that you are an elderly western male of lower income, limited education and at best average intelligence, but most likely, below average. 

 

[johng]

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

very small number of adverse events.

just one report for you.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2292514/b1-7bn-for-adverse-jab-effects