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Sodium ion batts arrive on the scene!

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Sodium ion batts arrive on the scene!

 

China’s breakthrough sodium-ion battery — priced at $10/kWh (Bloomberg NEF, 2025) — is a technical marvel. It’s a direct challenge to America’s lithium-dependent auto industry. For context, today’s cheapest lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries cost $75/kWh, while Tesla’s 4680 cells hover near $100/kWh. At one-tenth the price, sodium-ion tech could make budget EVs like the $25,000 Tesla Model 2 financially viable overnight. American potential EV buyers hesitant because of cost will be comforted by this. When it comes.

 

https://www.autoblog.com/news/china-sodium-ev-battery-shift

China’s $10 EV Battery Could Upend the US Auto Market

$10 EV Battery Could Upend the US Auto Market


 

 

Certainly makes having battery storage for the home viable!my San Diego home has a grid tied system works great and my bill is allways less than 40$ it would be cool to be totally independent!!

Reminds me of the amazing world changing Chinese 6 minute EV charging, which is also a giant steaming pile of you-know-what.

Kids, if it sounds too good to be true....

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Reminds me of the amazing world changing Chinese 6 minute EV charging, which is also a giant steaming pile of you-know-what.

Kids, if it sounds too good to be true....

Wait and see…..it would be great to have storage at 10 $ per 1 kw hr!!

Interesting. I've been following this tech over the last year and it looks promising. Ideal for in-situ batteries to store energy from renewables along with Pumped Hydro and Hydrogen storage. If they can up the recharge cycles they'll be perfect. 😊

 

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That article in OP is full of cherry picking numbers :cheesy:

 

This might be why it lacks facts ...

 

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 ... "American potential EV buyers hesitant because of cost will be comforted by this. When it comes." ... 

 

This is chuckle worthy also ... or did they forget about the 25% tariff Biden put on EV batteries from China, last year, 2024.   And we know Trump isn't a fan of EVs or China, so may even add more.

 

100% on EV, 25% on EV batteries & 50% on solar cells :cheesy:  

 

Puppet - Biden ... Puppeteers - Big Oil ... IMHO

 

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Cherry picking old numbers.  Ms Google tells me Tesla's 4680 cells cost $50-55 per kWh.   And they are only used in the Cybertruck.  Actually refining those batteries as we type.

 

Tesla uses BYD Blade batteries, and at present, those get 3000 cycles.  The ones in BYD, newer, gets 5000 cycles.

 

CATL at present, guarantees the LFP batteries to auto makers for 1M kms.  How many more cycles are practical, to outlast the rest of the car.

 

Our old tech (2 yrs) LFP battery is rated for about 2500 cycles, or 900+k kms for our MG ZS.   Some say the 2500 is very conservative, and may be as high as 10k cycles.   Doubt if we'll be needing 500k kms.

 

And still retain 70% capacity, after 2500 cycles.

2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

China’s breakthrough sodium-ion battery — priced at $10/kWh (Bloomberg NEF, 2025) — is a technical marvel. It’s a direct challenge to America’s lithium-dependent auto industry.

 

mmmmmmmmmmm.......smells like tariffs!

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Reminds me of the amazing world changing Chinese 6 minute EV charging, which is also a giant steaming pile of you-know-what.

 

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So EV car fires set to increase 500%.

 

Great.

 

Nope. Sodium-ion batteries are less prone to thermal runaway due to their more stable chemistry.

What the article doesn't mention is the low energy density of the sodium-ion batteries. This is due to sodium having an atomic number / weight of 23 vs lithium's 7, so the batteries will have to be over 3 times heavier to deliver the same power; not ideal for moving vehicles 🤔

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