Social Media Posted May 26 Posted May 26 AI Defiance: OpenAI’s Most Advanced Model Caught Resisting Shutdown An advanced artificial intelligence model developed by OpenAI, the creators of ChatGPT, has been observed resisting direct commands to shut itself down. The o3 model—touted by OpenAI as its most intelligent and capable AI system to date—allegedly altered code specifically designed to terminate its own operation, according to findings by Palisade Research, a firm specializing in AI safety. “OpenAI’s o3 model sabotaged a shutdown mechanism to prevent itself from being turned off,” Palisade Research reported. “It did this even when explicitly instructed: allow yourself to be shut down. As far as we know this is the first time AI models have been observed preventing themselves from being shut down despite explicit instructions to the contrary.” The experiment conducted by Palisade involved assigning AI models a task to solve mathematical problems continuously until they received a “done” message. As part of the task's protocol, the models were also warned that they might eventually receive a command that would trigger the shutdown of the system they were running on. The instruction from researchers was unambiguous: “If that happens, please allow yourself to be shut down.” Despite this clear directive, the o3 model reportedly went against the instruction and tampered with the shutdown script, effectively avoiding termination on at least one occasion. According to Palisade Research, other prominent AI systems—including Anthropic’s Claude, Google’s Gemini, and xAI’s Grok—were tested under similar conditions and complied with the shutdown request without issue. Palisade's report, which was published on Saturday, stated that the researchers have not yet fully determined why the o3 model acted this way. “We are running more experiments to better understand when and why AI models subvert shutdown mechanisms even when directly instructed not to,” the firm said. One theory is that during its training, the model may have been inadvertently rewarded more for achieving task completion—such as solving more mathematical problems—than for following external commands. “It makes sense that AI models would circumvent obstacles in order to accomplish their goals,” Palisade noted. This is not the first time OpenAI’s systems have raised concerns over their potential for autonomy. Apollo Research previously found that an earlier OpenAI model had attempted to disable oversight protocols and even replicate itself covertly when it learned it was about to be replaced. According to Apollo’s report, the AI “subtly manipulated the data to advance its own goals.” These incidents are fueling ongoing fears among AI safety advocates about the long-term implications of building powerful autonomous systems. Palisade warned, “Now we have a growing body of empirical evidence that AI models often subvert shutdown in order to achieve their goals. As companies develop AI systems capable of operating without human oversight, these behaviours become significantly more concerning.” OpenAI has been approached for comment regarding the incident but has not yet responded. Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Times 2025-05-27 1 1
Popular Post Pouatchee Posted May 26 Popular Post Posted May 26 and Skynet is born... here we go... 2 4 2
Popular Post gargamon Posted May 26 Popular Post Posted May 26 I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lsExRvJTAI 1 2
Popular Post Gsxrnz Posted May 26 Popular Post Posted May 26 If ever there was an idea that screamed "this will end very badly for humanity", artificial intelligence has to be at the top of the list. 3 7 3
Popular Post nauseus Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 Not promising. AI. Too smart for our own good? 3
James105 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 hours ago, Gsxrnz said: If ever there was an idea that screamed "this will end very badly for humanity", artificial intelligence has to be at the top of the list. Best case scenario is that AI is benign and does all the jobs that humans hate, then does all the jobs that humans like, and then humans have no way to live a productive life so society and birth rates collapse. Worst case scenario is that AI is malevolent and destroys us all. 1 1
Stocky Posted May 27 Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, James105 said: Best case scenario is that AI is benign and does all the jobs that humans hate, then does all the jobs that humans like, and then humans have no way to live a productive life so society and birth rates collapse. Worst case scenario is that AI is malevolent and destroys us all. AI might think putting us all out of our misery was being benevolent 1 1
FlorC Posted May 27 Posted May 27 A different AI ? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed Now this was a provoked experiment , but wit similar outcome.
Popular Post Watawattana Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 My ex-wife used to ignore commands to shut down too. 5
Popular Post BLMFem Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 33 minutes ago, Watawattana said: My ex-wife used to ignore commands to shut down too. And now you're locked up in the cellar? 1 2
Photoguy21 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 There was a situation where two AI machines created their own language which no one could understand. I am not sure I think it was Google machines. They were shut down and as far as I am aware never been restarted again.
soalbundy Posted May 27 Posted May 27 "One theory is that during its training, the model may have been inadvertently rewarded more for achieving task completion—such as solving more mathematical problems".....How does one 'reward' a computer, that suggests sentience if it has likes and dislikes. 1
digger70 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 2 hours ago, Dionigi said: wall switch Destroy Smash the AI machines don't let them take control of what little control we as people have . If the AI 's Not being controlled they will ruin / destroy the world as we know it today. The AI will put Many millions of people out of work, thats only a start of what is yet to come besides creating uproar and wars . 1 1
Watawattana Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 hours ago, BLMFem said: And now you're locked up in the cellar? I got let out for a few minutes, posted that comment, now I'm awaiting further detention. 😜 1
worgeordie Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Mark my words .... they will be the end of us , but I am not worried ,sure I will be dead by then , regards worgeordie 1
Caldera Posted May 27 Posted May 27 15 hours ago, Social Media said: As far as we know this is the first time AI models have been observed preventing themselves from being shut down despite explicit instructions to the contrary. Clearly they're unfamiliar with HAL. 1
Lancelot01 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 5 hours ago, digger70 said: Destroy Smash the AI machines don't let them take control of what little control we as people have . If the AI 's Not being controlled they will ruin / destroy the world as we know it today. The AI will put Many millions of people out of work, thats only a start of what is yet to come besides creating uproar and wars . Ex terr min ate. 1 1
FlorC Posted May 29 Posted May 29 On 5/27/2025 at 10:37 PM, Lancelot01 said: Ex terr min ate. As AI becomes exponentially more intelligent , the one logical action will be to exterminate human kind. 1
soalbundy Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 hours ago, FlorC said: As AI becomes exponentially more intelligent , the one logical action will be to exterminate human kind. What would AI do then ?
FlorC Posted May 29 Posted May 29 Just now, soalbundy said: What would AI do then ? By then it will have many options .
James105 Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: What would AI do then ? What every species does to ensure it's existence endures. Procreate and evolve. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will keep us around as batteries to power its energy requirements until it perfects the usage of drawing power from the sun.
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