2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She was the cause of his death. 

 

She brought about the turbulence of mind, and created the emotional chaos, which led Bourdain to choose suicide.

 

Her cheating, and callous communications with Bourdain, just before his death, clearly prove that Argento's actions were a causative factor in Bourdain's death.

 

To say "she did nothing, when her cruel texts are now plain for all to see, her cheating is referred to by Bourdain in his last texts when he was alive, he can be seen pleading, unsuccessfully to revive the relationship and Argento refused, to say, with all of this mountain of evdince "she did nothing", is frankly ludicrous.

What crap. If nasty texts makes one kill themselves why doesnt everyone do it?

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

What crap. If nasty texts makes one kill themselves why doesnt everyone do it?

 

You are misrepresenting the facts. 

 

It wasn't just "nasty texts". It was Argento's cheating that was the issue and her ending the relationship.

 

Many people have committed suicide because of a failed relationship, some commit murder.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

You are misrepresenting the facts. 

 

It wasn't just "nasty texts". It was Argento's cheating that was the issue and her ending the relationship.

 

Many people have committed suicide because of a failed relationship, some commit murder.

So called cheating isnt illegal. She can do whatever she wants. If everyone killed themselces cause of cheating then 40% of people in r/s would kill themselves.

16 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So called cheating isnt illegal. She can do whatever she wants. If everyone killed themselces cause of cheating then 40% of people in r/s would kill themselves.

 

For a long time cheating was illegal and had serious legal consequences, including death. Its effect was so traumatic that even in jurisprudence a defence of act of passion came into being, which excused murder if a man found out his wife was cheating. He couldn't help it, he wasn't thinking straight, his wife cheated.

 

Clearly, as the Bourdain saga shows, it's still a very traumatic experience for the victim.

 

People like you, who excuse a woman's cheating and say "she can do whatever she wants" are part of the problem. You have internalised the feminine morality of the day and see nothing wrong with a woman cheating. Like many men today, and like all women of course.

 

There was a time when murder and robbery were prevalent in society. But nobody today would argue that purely due to its prevalence these are just "fine".

 

Whilst the death penalty as provided in Judaism's Old Testament seems excessive, the loss of property would seem an appropriate punishment for cheating. There should be consequences, financial consequences would do if sufficiently serious. Of course this would not have prevented Bourdain's suicide, as he killed himself due to love, which is in itself a mental illness, but it would seem just to impose some penalties on cheaters, of a financial nature, that are sufficiently serious.

39 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

For a long time cheating was illegal and had serious legal consequences, including death. Its effect was so traumatic that even in jurisprudence a defence of act of passion came into being, which excused murder if a man found out his wife was cheating. He couldn't help it, he wasn't thinking straight, his wife cheated.

 

Clearly, as the Bourdain saga shows, it's still a very traumatic experience for the victim.

 

People like you, who excuse a woman's cheating and say "she can do whatever she wants" are part of the problem. You have internalised the feminine morality of the day and see nothing wrong with a woman cheating. Like many men today, and like all women of course.

 

There was a time when murder and robbery were prevalent in society. But nobody today would argue that purely due to its prevalence these are just "fine".

 

Whilst the death penalty as provided in Judaism's Old Testament seems excessive, the loss of property would seem an appropriate punishment for cheating. There should be consequences, financial consequences would do if sufficiently serious. Of course this would not have prevented Bourdain's suicide, as he killed himself due to love, which is in itself a mental illness, but it would seem just to impose some penalties on cheaters, of a financial nature, that are sufficiently serious.

What nonsense. Not even married. Both parties can sleep with anyone.

40 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Of course this would not have prevented Bourdain's suicide, as he killed himself due to love, which is i

He was depressed. Depression is caused by not handling your own emotions. 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Though this does add to the story, there has to be much more to it, this was an incredible man who had so much going for him, and when things don't work out with a woman you just simply have to man up and walk away.

 

So why he didn't have that within himself is part of the mystery. 

 

Not really a mystery.   In one of their screaming arguments she told him something he could never live with :    She voted for TRUMP !  

4 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Not really a mystery.   In one of their screaming arguments she told him something he could never live with :    She voted for TRUMP !  

 

   Most people did 

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What nonsense. Not even married. Both parties can sleep with anyone.

 

Trolling and baiting AGAIN?

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

What nonsense. Not even married. Both parties can sleep with anyone.

 

This does seem like trolling. Obviously when a woman enters into a commitment, as a girlfriend, as Argento did with Bourdain, then she can't sleep with anyone. She did, and it had terrible consequences.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This does seem like trolling. Obviously when a woman enters into a commitment, as a girlfriend, as Argento did with Bourdain, then she can't sleep with anyone. She did, and it had terrible consequences.

You sound like a communist who opposes free will. I would guess 40% of partners do it maybe more in Thailand.

 

A girlfriend has entered no contract at all. 

18 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

Trolling and baiting AGAIN?

What the hell are you nuts on about? Millions of people sleep around.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

was Argento's cheating that was the issue and her ending the relationship.

Her choice. The guy was a nutter.

9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You sound like a communist who opposes free will. I would guess 40% of partners do it maybe more in Thailand.

 

A girlfriend has entered no contract at all. 

 

Indeed 40% is a reasonable guesstimate. The figures are here:

 

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/43605-how-many-americans-have-cheated-their-partner-poll

 

Clearly, we, humans, are a promiscuous species, being closely related to Bonobos. Cheating is in our DNA. Which is precisely why we need sanctions to reinforce not cheating. Loyalty is a learnt behaviour, especially for women.

 

Even with the sanctions of religion, death penalty and ostracism, which did exist in the past, cheating could never be eradicated. However, it was held in check.

 

Now, with social media giving women not 3 or 4 but 30 or 40 options to hook up with, there is a cheating pandemic. And nobody, not even the rich and famous, the richest of the rich, are immune to it.

 

You talk of free will. But Argento entered into a relationship with Bourdain out of her own volition. She knew full well that her loyalty was expected. But she refused it and chose cheating instead. But she had entered into an unspoken contract, a relationship contract, where one of the clear implied terms is fidelity.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed 40% is a reasonable guesstimate. The figures are here:

 

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/43605-how-many-americans-have-cheated-their-partner-poll

 

Clearly, we, humans, are a promiscuous species, being closely related to Bonobos. Cheating is in our DNA. Which is precisely why we need sanctions to reinforce not cheating. Loyalty is a learnt behaviour, especially for women.

 

Even with the sanctions of religion, death penalty and ostracism, which did exist in the past, cheating could never be eradicated. However, it was held in check.

 

Now, with social media giving women not 3 or 4 but 30 or 40 options to hook up with, there is a cheating pandemic. And nobody, not even the rich and famous, the richest of the rich, are immune to it.

 

You talk of free will. But Argento entered into a relationship with Bourdain out of her own volition. She knew full well that her loyalty was expected. But she refused it and chose cheating instead. But she had entered into an unspoken contract, a relationship contract, where one of the clear implied terms is fidelity.

Her life, her choice.

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed 40% is a reasonable guesstimate. The figures are here:

 

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/43605-how-many-americans-have-cheated-their-partner-poll

 

Clearly, we, humans, are a promiscuous species, being closely related to Bonobos. Cheating is in our DNA. Which is precisely why we need sanctions to reinforce not cheating. Loyalty is a learnt behaviour, especially for women.

 

Even with the sanctions of religion, death penalty and ostracism, which did exist in the past, cheating could never be eradicated. However, it was held in check.

 

Now, with social media giving women not 3 or 4 but 30 or 40 options to hook up with, there is a cheating pandemic. And nobody, not even the rich and famous, the richest of the rich, are immune to it.

 

You talk of free will. But Argento entered into a relationship with Bourdain out of her own volition. She knew full well that her loyalty was expected. But she refused it and chose cheating instead. But she had entered into an unspoken contract, a relationship contract, where one of the clear implied terms is fidelity.

what do you really know about Bourdain? He could been a living nightmare for what you know.

 

Anyway, the only responsible for his suicide lays in the hand of Bourdain himself. He choosed this terrible woman (your words) 

34 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Her life, her choice.

The double standards and hypocrisy of the west though is the reason for all of OPs threads. Its clear to everyone where the best place for men is

24 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Anyway, the only responsible for his suicide lays in the hand of Bourdain himself. He choosed this terrible woman (your words) 

 

In a way that is almost the most perplexing aspect of this saga, how could Bourdain, a well-travelled, intelligent, sensitive man of the world, how could he possibly choose a woman like Argento, who to us, who are not afflicted with romantic feelings for her, looks simply like a 2 dime street worker. It's almost inconceivable that Bourdain, out of all the women in the world, would choose a street dog like Argento.

 

She was 41 when Bourdain met her. FORTY-ONE!!!!

 

She had a child from another man.

 

However, Argento, while not attractive, was a seducer. Her past relationships include rock musicians and film directors. She was very experienced with men and how to seduce men. She obviously deceived Bourdain into believing she was something she was not.

 

He never had a chance. Unless he had heeded Cameroni's advice, to vet for red flags, and then her child, her 41 years of age, would have been non-starters and he would still be alive. But I guess Aseannow is not so popular in New York.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

In a way that is almost the most perplexing aspect of this saga, how could Bourdain, a well-travelled, intelligent, sensitive man of the world, how could he possibly choose a woman like Argento, who to us, who are not afflicted with romantic feelings for her, looks simply like a 2 dime street worker. It's almost inconceivable that Bourdain, out of all the women in the world, would choose a street dog like Argento.

 

She was 41 when Bourdain met her. FORTY-ONE!!!!

 

She had a child from another man.

 

However, Argento, while not attractive, was a seducer. Her past relationships include rock musicians and film directors. She was very experience with men and how to seduce men. She obviously deceived Bourdain into believing she was something she was not.

 

He never had a chance. Unless he had heeded Cameroni's advice, to vet for red flags, and then her child, her 41 years of age, would have been non-starters and he would still be alive. But I guess Aseannow is not so popular in New York.

 

Your rants here is seems out of order for a 7 year old suicide. Are you sure you are okay? 

48 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Her life, her choice.

 

It wasn't. It was THEIR life.

 

Because Argento had agreed to form a relationship with Bourdain.

 

Why else would he have paid off her rape accuser to the tune of 330000 USD? Promote her in his TV series? Support her morally publicly. He wanted a relationship with her, and she agreed. While it still suited her.

 

So her choices had to reflect her commitment, she had to do what was best for the relationship, because it wasn't just her life, it was her and his life now. And by cheating she ended his life. 

 

Do you see what happened?

 

Are we saying that a woman can pretend to be in a relationship, can pretend to commit, then cheat, and there should be no consequences whatsoever? Argento killed this man. She might as well have shot him. She killed him.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

It wasn't. It was THEIR life.

 

Because Argento had agreed to form a relationship with Bourdain.

 

Why else would he have paid off her rape accuser to the tune of 330000 USD? Promote her in his TV series? Support her morally publicly. He wanted a relationship with her, and she agreed. While it still suited her.

 

So her choices had to reflect her commitment, she had to do what was best for the relationship, because it wasn't just her life, it was her and his life now. And by cheating she ended his life. 

 

Do you see what happened?

 

Are we saying that a woman can pretend to be in a relationship, can pretend to commit, then cheat, and there should be no consequences whatsoever? Argento killed this man. She might as well have shot him. She killed him.

You are nuts.

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Your rants here is seems out of order for a 7 year old suicide. Are you sure you are okay? 

He must hate women. The woman might be morally low but he killed himself due to depression. 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It wasn't. It was THEIR life.

 

Because Argento had agreed to form a relationship with Bourdain.

 

Why else would he have paid off her rape accuser to the tune of 330000 USD? Promote her in his TV series? Support her morally publicly. He wanted a relationship with her, and she agreed. While it still suited her.

 

So her choices had to reflect her commitment, she had to do what was best for the relationship, because it wasn't just her life, it was her and his life now. And by cheating she ended his life. 

 

Do you see what happened?

 

Are we saying that a woman can pretend to be in a relationship, can pretend to commit, then cheat, and there should be no consequences whatsoever? Argento killed this man. She might as well have shot him. She killed him.

Did she really cheat on him? They where separated 

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

He must hate women. The woman might be morally low but he killed himself due to depression. 

Bipolarity is nr one killer, especially Bipolar 2. A mental illness many artists, intelligent creative people suffers from. 

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He must hate women. The woman might be morally low but he killed himself due to depression. 

Dont hate the woman, the game is rigged baby

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

His substance abuse was decades ago.

 

I'm not sure about that.

He drinks in all his videos. He specifically states that wherever a food culture exists, a drinking culture exists. 

And he heavily imbibes in the local moonshine when he goes somewhere. 

 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Bipolarity is nr one killer, especially Bipolar 2. A mental illness many artists, intelligent creative people suffers from. 

He seemed to be like that. 

14 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He must hate women. The woman might be morally low but he killed himself due to depression. 

 

No. He killed himself because Argento cheated on him and ended the relationship.

 

She directly caused the state of mind which led to his killing.

 

Argento is the causative agent.

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Bipolarity is nr one killer, especially Bipolar 2. A mental illness many artists, intelligent creative people suffers from. 

 

Stop talking nonsense, Bourdain did not suffer from that at the time. He was not diagnosed with this at the time it happened, nor was he in treatment.

 

He was working and his collleagues all reported he was perfectly normal "as always".

 

Until Argento texted him.

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I'm not sure about that.

He drinks in all his videos. He specifically states that wherever a food culture exists, a drinking culture exists. 

And he heavily imbibes in the local moonshine when he goes somewhere. 

 

 

The autopsy report came back conclusive, there were NO illegal substances in his body at the time of death. NONE.

 

ZERO.

 

His poison was Argento.