Fact-checking Trump and Miller’s claims of a ‘migrant invasion’ in California

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Federal and state data tell a far different story about migration to California than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles

 

"President Donald Trump deployed the National Guard to California, saying the troops need to “liberate” Los Angeles from a “migrant invasion.” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, a key architect of the president’s immigration crackdown, said on social media that the city is proof of how migration “unravels” a society.

 

But federal and state data tell a far different story about the Golden State than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles, where the administration has sent 700 Marines and 4,000 National Guard troops as protests continue over recent immigration raids.

 

In California, violent crime is down, and the unemployment rate is close to the national average. The state recently overtook Japan as the world’s fourth-largest economy. It has the highest number of immigrants — both legal, most of them citizens, and undocumented. But in recent years, the state has lost hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants to their homelands or to more-affordable states. Unauthorized immigrants in California remain well below the peak of nearly 3 million more than a decade ago for reasons that often have little to do with enforcement — or Trump." [emphasis added]

 

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Washington Post

https://archive.ph/Cm300

 

 

 

[Tug]

I’m a life long California native they have allways been a part of our culture and prosperity a lot of this current stituation is a (witch hunt) 99% of migrants are not criminals or gang bangers.just folks working keeping their heads down and trying to provide a better future for their kids….just like everyone else.this whole issue is being blown all out of proportion to create a problem for trump to rail against.

[Mike_Hunt]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

I’m a life long California native they have allways been a part of our culture and prosperity a lot of this current stituation is a (witch hunt) 99% of migrants are not criminals or gang bangers.just folks working keeping their heads down and trying to provide a better future for their kids….just like everyone else.this whole issue is being blown all out of proportion to create a problem for trump to rail against.

They are still illegal.  There are 2.9 million illegals living in California.

[Tug]

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

They are still illegal.  There are 2.9 million illegals living in California.

Many should have a path to citizenship if they are law abiding work and have no felony’s.

[TedG]

8 minutes ago, Tug said:

Many should have a path to citizenship if they are law abiding work and have no felony’s.

If they did not follow the immigration process, they are not law-abiding. 

[TedG]

Somehow 2.9 million illegals is not an invasion.  

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Federal and state data tell a far different story about migration to California than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles

 

"President Donald Trump deployed the National Guard to California, saying the troops need to “liberate” Los Angeles from a “migrant invasion.” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, a key architect of the president’s immigration crackdown, said on social media that the city is proof of how migration “unravels” a society.

 

But federal and state data tell a far different story about the Golden State than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles, where the administration has sent 700 Marines and 4,000 National Guard troops as protests continue over recent immigration raids.

 

In California, violent crime is down, and the unemployment rate is close to the national average. The state recently overtook Japan as the world’s fourth-largest economy. It has the highest number of immigrants — both legal, most of them citizens, and undocumented. But in recent years, the state has lost hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants to their homelands or to more-affordable states. Unauthorized immigrants in California remain well below the peak of nearly 3 million more than a decade ago for reasons that often have little to do with enforcement — or Trump." [emphasis added]

 

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Washington Post

https://archive.ph/Cm300

 

 

 

Not the narrative the wannabe king wants people to hear. Falsehoods and lies are his stock in trade, and Miller is the closest thing to a white supremacist within the administration. Trump wants to stir things up. He wants an excuse. He adores division and despises more than half the country. 

[Mike_Hunt]

18 minutes ago, Tug said:

Many should have a path to citizenship if they are law abiding work and have no felony’s.

Why?

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Not the narrative the wannabe king wants people to hear. Falsehoods and lies are his stock in trade, and Miller is the closest thing to a white supremacist within the administration. Trump wants to stir things up. He wants an excuse. He adores division and despises more than half the country. 

Is 2.9 million illegals a falsehood?

[spidermike007]

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Is 2.9 million illegals a falsehood?

Nearly everything Trump and Miller say is false. 

[kwonitoy]

 

[bunnydrops]

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25 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Why?

Maybe because a well known hotel owner who happens to live in the Whitehouse just said “Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,”

[KhaoHom]

46 minutes ago, Tug said:

Many should have a path to citizenship if they are law abiding work and have no felony’s.

 

Why should unskilled migrants, burden to state and fed get to circumvent immigration queue? CA is 9B in debt and 9B in the hole on healthcare. Hmmm?

 

Takes years to get a spouse back.

 

Your pity parade

 

I left. Taxes are insane

[KhaoHom]

8 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

 

 

This link looks totally shonky

[KhaoHom]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Nearly everything Trump and Miller say is false. 

 

Nearly everything you say is false.

 

You don't live in Thailand, never lived in California why are you even on this thread?

 

Guess those damaged drop ship businesses not so damaged you have so much time for spewing nothingness into the ether

 

 

[bunnydrops]

9 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

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Maybe because a well known hotel owner who happens to live in the Whitehouse just said “Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,”

He continued "Our farmers are being hurt badly by, you know, they have very good workers, they have worked for them for 20 years,” he said. “They’re not citizens, but they’ve turned out to be, you know, great. And we’re going to have to do something about that. We can’t take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don’t have maybe what they’re supposed to have, maybe not.”

[Mike_Hunt]

28 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Nearly everything Trump and Miller say is false. 

Is 2.9 million correct?

[bunnydrops]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Is 2.9 million correct?

How would anyone know? It's not like they wear arm bands or register.

[ericthai]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

I’m a life long California native they have allways been a part of our culture and prosperity a lot of this current stituation is a (witch hunt) 99% of migrants are not criminals or gang bangers.just folks working keeping their heads down and trying to provide a better future for their kids….just like everyone else.this whole issue is being blown all out of proportion to create a problem for trump to rail against.

So the US should only follow some laws,  other laws, well not so much????

 

If someone wants to live in the USA, they need to do it properly.  It's a smack in the face to my wife and every other immigrant that followed the procedures.  But none of this affects you, as you state in your posts that nothing going on in your area everything great!!

So as long as it's not your area everything is ok and it's all made up and somehow Trumps fault. 

 

Go have another martini, stayed stoned in your delusional world. 

[ericthai]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Many should have a path to citizenship if they are law abiding work and have no felony’s.

I agree, and actually that's possible.  Trump re-purposed a government app to self deport which includes a free flight and $1000 cash. 

If you do this then you can legally apply to return to the USA, 

[ericthai]

37 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

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Maybe because a well known hotel owner who happens to live in the Whitehouse just said “Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,”

sounds like slave owners.. wanting their cheap labor. 

[KhaoHom]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Federal and state data tell a far different story about migration to California than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles

 

"President Donald Trump deployed the National Guard to California, saying the troops need to “liberate” Los Angeles from a “migrant invasion.” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, a key architect of the president’s immigration crackdown, said on social media that the city is proof of how migration “unravels” a society.

 

But federal and state data tell a far different story about the Golden State than the political fury unfolding in Washington and on the streets of Los Angeles, where the administration has sent 700 Marines and 4,000 National Guard troops as protests continue over recent immigration raids.

 

In California, violent crime is down, and the unemployment rate is close to the national average. The state recently overtook Japan as the world’s fourth-largest economy. It has the highest number of immigrants — both legal, most of them citizens, and undocumented. But in recent years, the state has lost hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants to their homelands or to more-affordable states. Unauthorized immigrants in California remain well below the peak of nearly 3 million more than a decade ago for reasons that often have little to do with enforcement — or Trump." [emphasis added]

 

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Washington Post

https://archive.ph/Cm300

 

 

 

 

First, Wapo 😂

 

Next, last four years were thoroughly devoid of fact checking, but now we are concerned about facts - presented by Wapo

 

Day after day these shi+posts come fast and furious.

 

All these leftists on in/direct government payments just like the protestors

 

This comes from the account in which gave us the most biased, pro vax, pro government and anti individual freedom perspective ever seen on this forum nor ever seen since

 

You're a total laff

 

I guess but covid done and gone you've moved on to other grifts? Who's finding you on this one champ?

[KhaoHom]

10 minutes ago, ericthai said:

sounds like slave owners.. wanting their cheap labor. 

 

Except slaves don't travel on their own accord thousands of miles and pay money to mafia's, cross borders illegally on their own accord and then seek out jobs.

 

So, pretty much nothing like slaves

[KhaoHom]

36 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

How would anyone know? It's not like they wear arm bands or register.

 

Government registrations. Medicaid, DMV, schools, census, arrests, migrant worker cards...🙄

[Mike_Hunt]

This is a gaslighting factcheck.   There are 2.9 million illegals in California.  It's an invasion. 

[ericthai]

1 minute ago, KhaoHom said:

 

Except slaves don't travel on their own accord thousands of miles and pay money to mafia's, cross borders illegally on their own accord and then seek out jobs.

 

So, pretty much nothing like slaves

not talking about the illegal immigrants..  I'm talking about how the democrat's are saying without the illegal immigrants (cheap labor)  they will have nobody to pick the crops.

Same as the slaves owners said, if salary (cheap labor) is abolished they will have no workers. 

[KhaoHom]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Nearly everything Trump and Miller say is false. 

 

😭😭😭😭😭

[KhaoHom]

Just now, ericthai said:

not talking about the illegal immigrants..  I'm talking about how the democrat's are saying without the illegal immigrants (cheap labor)  they will have nobody to pick the crops.

Same as the slaves owners said, if salary (cheap labor) is abolished they will have no workers. 

 

Oh, apologies. I think Crocket of all people posited that gem first. Wholly ironic.

 

They're really funny thing is that all the agricultural needs have been met over the decades without these millions of people rushing into the United states. Moreover very few of them that I have read if any are or have been directed into agriculture.

 

Most of them are sitting about doing much of nothing. The plan was to use the individuals to shift the voter base. Nothing to do with work.

 

The individuals that actually have sought work I've heard very few instances more if not all in industrial settings.

 

So the question would be who is going to process the meat, can the dogfood...

[kevozman1]

9 minutes ago, KhaoHom said:

 

First, Wapo 😂

 

Next, last four years were thoroughly devoid of fact checking, but now we are concerned about facts - presented by Wapo

 

Day after day these shi+posts come fast and furious.

 

All these leftists on in/direct government payments just like the protestors

 

This comes from the account in which gave us the most biased, pro vax, pro government and anti individual freedom perspective ever seen on this forum nor ever seen since

 

You're a total laff

 

I guess but covid done and gone you've moved on to other grifts? Who's finding you on this one champ?

 

The followers of Modern Liberalism (they are either corrupted, mostly the 1% or just useful cretins, the ones who are not in the 1%) constantly side against the majorities best interests over and over again. It's why they always side with 'minorities', not because they are doing it from a place of kindness, but just because it holds back/burdens the main chunk of society.

[KhaoHom]

16 minutes ago, kevozman1 said:

 

The followers of Modern Liberalism (they are either corrupted, mostly the 1% or just useful cretins, the ones who are not in the 1%) constantly side against the majorities best interests over and over again. It's why they always side with 'minorities', not because they are doing it from a place of kindness, but just because it holds back/burdens the main chunk of society.

 

The lot on this board is infected with neo liberal retarded mindset. Think of antifa-lite. They are a totally confused group of individuals that despite being middle-aged have no life philosophy. Every government handout is good and everything that stops the flow of government money is bad.

 

They have an absolute inability to analyze and do any sort of critical thinking as to what might be good for them in the long run. Government deficits and out of control spending especially at this juncture of the United States is not good for anyone.

 

Anyone that thinks it allowing 20 million undocumented individuals into the country many of them criminals have to either have an agenda or just be absolutely stupid.

 

I have little doubt that there are a few people on this board that are paid shills. Much like this lot:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-ice-propaganda-being-spread-coordinated-influencers

 

They have no career of course. They have no job they have no life. They're indirectly paid through some nefarious dark organization and they sit on the internet all day in various forms <deleted>posting lies and deceit, smoke screens. Much of it is not to convince anyone, but simply to get everyone in huff and waste their time posting back and correcting the retarded nonsense.

 

They have in their mindset that everything on the right especially Trump is bad and worse everything on the left is good. Even if it's not good it's forgivable in the cause for their righteousness.

 

There is no left and right in reality. It's just politicians and dark forces stealing your money, your freedom and your privacy.

 

That's why I urge everyone that is not one of these retarded leftists to stop wasting their time and leave this subform and leave these individuals behind.

 

I'm here over a cup of coffee in the morning or a few minutes of downtime later in the day. You won't see me in the top five posters of hundreds per week LOL

 

If you are one of the sane people I urge you to go and have a look at the top posters. They pose nothing but rubbish in the political forums. The aggregate of this effort is some serious, serious time dedicated to subterfuge, deceit.  Walk away from it all.