Israel’s Strikes Leave Iran Reeling Amid Escalating Conflict

[connda]

The game right now is "quid pro quo."

Israel and Iran punching each other, although the story in Western media will always be, "Israel is destroying Iran without suffering a scratch."  You know, the same media that runs the stories that, "Russia is losing the Ukraine conflict badly." 

The lesson here - you can't trust main-stream media or whatever is coming out from state actors on either side of a conflict.  You have to use multiple independent sources of information to scratch the surface of factual reality.
As the old saying goes, "The first casualty of war is truth." Or believe anything you want.  Truth is fungible. Sadly.

Bat Yam, Israel

[connda]

Oh goodie!  It looks like Trump is gonna take the US to war in Iran.  He "signaled" in an ABC interview that "it's possible we could get involved."  You gotta read between the line with this dude. Cui bono.  Who benefits.  If Trump and the wealthy can make money - consider it a done deal.  Conquer Iran, take over their oil resources, build bases in Tehran and up and down the Iranian coast.  It would be a "Big Beautiful War.  Lotsa free oil.  America controlling South West Asia.  Peace and Love and The American Way."  

Sure - why not?  Cue up the Beach Boys with Trump singing McCain's "Bomb Bomb Iran."  

[kickstart]

Israel is just doing Trump's dirty work and getting away with it, if the USA went in the same way they would be something said.

And Trump went back on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, back in 2015 known as the nuclear deal, since then things have got worse, and we are where we are now.

Everyone is saying, Bomb them back in the stone age, a look at Gogel, the population of Iran is about 91 million, what about them.

[ThreeCardMonte]

10 hours ago, stevenl said:

That's a very selective history.

 

Iran hates America due to the overthrow of the democratically elected government in the fifties, the unwavering support for Israel and the sanctions imposed by the USA.

Rhodes Scholar. ???

[ThreeCardMonte]

59 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

How is he helping? He's done nothing yet. It remains to be seen if and when the USA not Trump will go to the aid of their ally Israel their war against their mutual foe Iran.

Consider the mentality of the people you answer.

 

They’re lost in space.

[ThreeCardMonte]

11 minutes ago, kickstart said:

Israel is just doing Trump's dirty work and getting away with it, if the USA went in the same way they would be something said.

And Trump went back on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, back in 2015 known as the nuclear deal, since then things have got worse, and we are where we are now.

Everyone is saying, Bomb them back in the stone age, a look at Gogel, the population of Iran is about 91 million, what about them.

Still haven’t figured out the problem isn’t with the population.  It’s with the regime and leadership.

 

A regime made stronger by Obama and Biden.

 

“Israel is doing Trump’s dirty work”?

 

Where did you get that valuable piece of information?  Jake Tapper, Maddow or Joy Behar.

 

Keep listening!

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, connda said:

Western media will always be, "Israel is destroying Iran without suffering a scratch." 

 

   Show me just one Western Media source that has claimed that ?

You not be able to as its a false claim 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Packer said:

Israel once again showing why the region and world would be better without them. 🙂

 

   If you would all just accept Israel and stop trying to eradicate them, then peace could prevail  

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, connda said:

The game right now is "quid pro quo."

Israel and Iran punching each other, although the story in Western media will always be, "Israel is destroying Iran without suffering a scratch."  You know, the same media that runs the stories that, "Russia is losing the Ukraine conflict badly." 

The lesson here - you can't trust main-stream media or whatever is coming out from state actors on either side of a conflict.  You have to use multiple independent sources of information to scratch the surface of factual reality.
As the old saying goes, "The first casualty of war is truth." Or believe anything you want.  Truth is fungible. Sadly.

Bat Yam, Israel

"Israel is destroying Iran without suffering a scratch."

 

What a sick post, its like you are enjoying Israel civilians being targeted by the terrorists. Western media never made that claim why lie about something like that?

 

in fact they did carry the reports that US officials (Steve Wikoff) said there would also be mass casualty events in Israel too. Israel air defense is good but not perfect.

 

Never mind, you got a like for your false information, you must be extremely happy.

 

Jordan and the US have also been helping to knock out the Iranian drones. The facts however are that Iran has been decimated and Israel has complete air superiority to do what it wants there. 

 

 

[jimmybcool]

On 6/13/2025 at 5:19 PM, Yagoda said:

TV analysts are now speculating that Iran just shot its wad on the ballistic missile strike they made on Israel

 

This so called war is typical of the fights with the cowardly terrorists. They have been bombed back to the military stone age so they retaliate by killing a few old civilians.

 

Another wave of strikes is now ongoing. Iranian air bases are gone, they have no air defenses, its essentially over.

 

Iran should surrender, but like Hamas, they are a cult of hate and death so its going to be how long it takes to destroy their country.

 

OIl is next.

 

I don't think it is Israels goal to destroy Iran.  I think their goal is regime change.  if they can eliminate the radical hateful regime run my the mullahs it is possible Iran might once again become a peaceful member nation as they were prior to the revolution.  The next few days will be interesting.  

 

Meanwhile I doubt oilfields are the targets.  I suspect they will continue to destroy anything remotely associated with development of nukes or missiles.  

[jimmybcool]

9 hours ago, Sigmund said:

You watch a european or US TV news channel and one would wrongfully see and think Iran is destroyed, 

 

You watch Al jazeera and you would see all the damage inflicted to Israel and many areas totally distroyed. 

 

As long as america continues to support Israel and refuse an independant palestinian state, there will always be wars and trouble all over. But why stop it ? It generates trillions in arms sales globally. So who wants peace ? Not america or Europe for sure...

 

I don't think the USA or Europe opposes an independent state or ever has.  

 

https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/how-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state-5-times-in-the-past/

[Yagoda]

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The first strike was on Oct 7 th on the Iran funded attack on Israel , this is a continuation of that  

The first strike was when they starting killing Americans, payback is a biatch

[Yagoda]

20 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Did they?

 

Or did the Iranians fire their unguided weapons at Israel with only an estimate of where they would land?

Surely the Israel military and intelligence services are aware that Iran’s missiles are ballistic, not smart guided.

 

They are also certainly aware of Iran’s sovereign right to respond to a military attack.

 

Perhaps they were unable to predict Iran would retaliate with the weapons Iran has and that those weapons would certainly kill Israeli civilians.

 

Alternatively they were able to predict that Iran would respond with the weapons Iran has and that those weapons would certainly kill Israeli civilians.

 

Got it. You support targeting civilians, as long as they are Jews.

[FlorC]

10 hours ago, Magictoad said:

How is he helping? He's done nothing yet. It remains to be seen if and when the USA not Trump will go to the aid of their ally Israel their war against their mutual foe Iran.

Selling them weapons & munitions.

US is actively helping with airsupport.

Trump is on the verge (or maybe already) delivering the heavy bunker buster bombs.

No doubt giving intelligence , by the 3 letter agencies.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You support targeting civilians, as long as they are Jews.

No. like most of the pro-Palestinian/Hamas crowd, he does not want to eradicate the Jews, they only want to eradicate the Zionists. 

[Yagoda]

24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No. like most of the pro-Palestinian/Hamas crowd, he does not want to eradicate the Jews, they only want to eradicate the Zionists. 

Got it. So what about us regular old Yanks that love our little attack dog, Israel and think Jewish folks (unless they are those self hating Socialists) are cool (I love Kosher Pastrami)?

 

Guess we got to go too. Its the Socialist way: You support Trotsky? Off to the Kommunarka!

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

I don't think it is Israels goal to destroy Iran.  I think their goal is regime change.  if they can eliminate the radical hateful regime run my the mullahs it is possible Iran might once again become a peaceful member nation as they were prior to the revolution.  The next few days will be interesting.  

 

Meanwhile I doubt oilfields are the targets.  I suspect they will continue to destroy anything remotely associated with development of nukes or missiles.  

Regime change.

 

Always works out fine and dandy.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You support targeting civilians, as long as they are Jews.

A ludicrous and completely baseless statement.

 

At no time have I supported targeting civilians, regardless of whether they are Jewish or not.

 

Incidentally, many Israelis are not Jewish.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

43 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No. like most of the pro-Palestinian/Hamas crowd, he does not want to eradicate the Jews, they only want to eradicate the Zionists. 

And yet another baseless slur.

 

I challenge he you to find any post from me supporting eradication of anyone regardless of them being Jewish or Zionists.

 

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A ludicrous and completely baseless statement.

 

At no time have I supported targeting civilians, regardless of whether they are Jewish or not.

ok. It is unquestioned that Iran is deliberately targeting civilians. Should the Mullahs be tried for war crimes?

 

Watch the deflection, waffling, spurious facts and a few tu quoques, as well as the furious Iran loving thumbs downs

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Incidentally, many Israelis are not Jewish.

 

Thats because Israel is a modern pluralistic democratic intellectual thriving society where LGBTSQs can dance in the streets, folks can say what they want, own guns and be free. Im sure that an  Arab citizen of Israel sure thanks his lucky stars he isnt residing in some theocratic medieval violent hellhole like his co-religionists.

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet another baseless slur.

 

I challenge he you to find any post from me supporting eradication of anyone regardless of them being Jewish or Zionists.

 

 

 

 

Challenge accepted: Here is your test

 

Do you accept that Socialism is a violent ideology that requires the eradication of people to  triumph?

 

Do you accept that Iran and its proxies are eliminationist anti semites?

 

Time to man up

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Challenge accepted: Here is your test

 

Do you accept that Socialism is a violent ideology that requires the eradication of people to  triumph?

 

Do you accept that Iran and its proxies are eliminationist anti semites?

 

Time to man up

I’m not sure how your ill informed socialism nonsense relates to the thread.

 

I absolutely accept the Iranian regime and its proxies are antisemites.

Eliminationist are found on both sides of this conflict.

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure how your ill informed socialism nonsense relates to the thread.

 

I absolutely accept the Iranian regime and its proxies are antisemites.

Eliminationist are found on both sides of this conflict.

 

What is Israel eliminating here and what did/does Iran want to eliminate?

 

False equivalence from you, very telling again. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism

 

[Bkk Brian]

Iran has targeted Americans for over 40 years:

🔴 It bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut - killing 63. 

🔴 It murdered 241 U.S. Marines at their Beirut barracks. 

🔴 It plotted to assassinate President Trump and other American officials.

🔴 They torch American flags daily. They chant “Death to America.”

𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹, 𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝗼𝘄𝗻, 𝗶𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗷𝗼𝗯 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮𝗹𝗹.

 

Lets not forget other countries including the UK

 

The Director General of MI5 recently stated that since the start of 2022 the UK has responded to 20 Iran-backed plots, presenting potentially lethal threats to British citizens and UK residents. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/protecting-national-security

[ExpatOilWorker]

We might need some more popcorn 🍿. 

 

[Yagoda]

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Eliminationist are found on both sides of this conflict.

Nice mealy mouthed answer. Your avatar is apropos. Thanks for outing.

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A ludicrous and completely baseless statement.

At no time have I supported targeting civilians, regardless of whether they are Jewish or not.

Incidentally, many Israelis are not Jewish.

 

And the Iranian missiles  and drones are injuring Arabs too.

- A civilian woman was killed Sunday in Syria's western Tartus province when a  (presumed Iranian) drone struck her home, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

-  On Sunday, remnants from Iran’s latest wave of ballistic missile attacks landed in two different areas of the West Bank, with one piece of debris igniting a fire near the home of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and another injuring three young children near Sa’ir, according to The Jerusalem Post, citing local sources and eyewitnesses.

 

[Patong2021]

13 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

We might need some more popcorn 🍿. 

 

 

Aren't those aircraft refuelers being sent to the Gulf states to support US and UK aircraft if they are obliged to defend  Bahrain, Oman, UAE and KSA? Iran did threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Nice mealy mouthed answer. Your avatar is apropos. Thanks for outing.

Thank you for quoting me out of context.

 

I’m pleased you like my avatar, I chose it with much thought.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

And the Iranian missiles  and drones are injuring Arabs too.

- A civilian woman was killed Sunday in Syria's western Tartus province when a  (presumed Iranian) drone struck her home, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

-  On Sunday, remnants from Iran’s latest wave of ballistic missile attacks landed in two different areas of the West Bank, with one piece of debris igniting a fire near the home of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and another injuring three young children near Sa’ir, according to The Jerusalem Post, citing local sources and eyewitnesses.

 

I’m not at all surprised. Iran’s ballistic missiles are not smart weapons, which incidentally also kill innocent civilians in large numbers.

 

All the more reason to wish sense to prevail and both sides step back from all our war.