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https://www.reuters.com/world/protesters-against-overtourism-take-streets-southern-europe-2025-06-15/
 

Authorities in the north eastern Spanish city said around 600 people joined the demonstration there, some firing water pistols or setting off coloured smoke and putting stickers saying 'Neighbourhood self-defence, tourist go home' on shop windows and hotels.

There were similar demonstrations in other parts of Spain including Ibiza, Malaga, Palma de Mallorca, San Sebastian and Granada. Protests in Italy took place in cities including Genoa, Naples, Palermo, Milan and Venice.

 

Stories like this make me love the tolerant Thais even more. Is there any other country in the world that does tourism better than the Land Of Smiles?

No

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3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Mostly Russians, Chinese and Indians I assume. 
Or not?

Tourists in Spain, is mostly from Northern Europe, including Germany. Not so much russians except those who already are expats there. 

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21 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/protesters-against-overtourism-take-streets-southern-europe-2025-06-15/
 

Authorities in the north eastern Spanish city said around 600 people joined the demonstration there, some firing water pistols or setting off coloured smoke and putting stickers saying 'Neighbourhood self-defence, tourist go home' on shop windows and hotels.

There were similar demonstrations in other parts of Spain including Ibiza, Malaga, Palma de Mallorca, San Sebastian and Granada. Protests in Italy took place in cities including Genoa, Naples, Palermo, Milan and Venice.

 

Stories like this make me love the tolerant Thais even more. Is there any other country in the world that does tourism better than the Land Of Smiles?

No

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No. Here is the list..........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

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4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Ungrateful parasites. The revenue from the tourists keeps the hospitality sector afloat and the tax revenues pay for their social services.

I think I have found you a woman you will match with.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

This has nothing to do with Israel or Thailand. The tourists in Spain who are being harassed are behaving themselves and doing nothing wrong. Tourism is 16% of Spain's GDP.  What will the   people who can find the  time to come out on a work day to protest do to replace  the 136 billion Euro revenue that is lost if there is no tourism? Who will pay their bloated pensions and social benefits?

Israeli tourist in Thailand refuses to take off her shoes in a restaurant as is required and says “my money builds your country!” ·

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Go off the beaten path.

No need to travel to the most heavily touristed places.

There are plenty of charming villages in Romania. 

No need to visit Barcelona like everyone else.

Venice on the other hand ... is a must visit. 

 

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Just now, fredwiggy said:

You start a topic about an incident based in Europe and then make it about a girl that was in another topic here. Why? 

Oh Fred, I always have to mansplain everything for you.

 

Patong was saying the locals in Spain should put up with rude tourists because of the money that builds their country.

Just like the Israeli woman was saying here recently.

 

Get it now?
or not?

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9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

This has nothing to do with Israel or Thailand. The tourists in Spain who are being harassed are behaving themselves and doing nothing wrong. Tourism is 16% of Spain's GDP.  What will the   people who can find the  time to come out on a work day to protest do to replace  the 136 billion Euro revenue that is lost if there is no tourism? Who will pay their bloated pensions and social benefits?

You do not understand this is tourism out of hand, who take apartments away from the local markeds, increasing rent and prices for normal people, as well traffic and noise in the very same areas. 
 

I doubt you have ever seen cheap Charlie tourists in Spain ever, coming mostly from Uk and Nordic countries. 
 

I do not have so much experience with southern Europe who mostly have their holidays one month after us, but I doubt Germans, French and Italians top Uk and the Nordic countries in bad behavior. 
 

Benidorm in the 90’ies was a catastrophe with especially Uk guys fighting in the street 

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1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Wow, what a coincident, they're the main troublemakers in Thailand 😮

That is debatable.

We usually try to deflect on to the rude Russians, the pushy Chinese and the straw sharing Indians.

Please keep up.

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1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Benidorm in the 90’ies was a catastrophe with especially Uk guys fighting in the street 

The good old days.

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3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Oh Fred, I always have to mansplain everything for you.

 

Patong was saying the locals in Spain should put up with rude tourists because of the money that builds their country.

Just like the Israeli woman was saying here recently.

 

Get it now?
or not?

You would have to actually be  man to do that, and being a man myself, one that actually does man things, it's not necessary. But keep that assuming that you know others without ever seeing them, as it further buries you in your land of bewilderment. You always find a way to install things about Israelis, yet you seem to think it isn't noticed. Get it now, or not? 

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6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You would have to actually be  man to do that, and being a man myself, one that actually does man things, it's not necessary. But keep that assuming that you know others without ever seeing them, as it further buries you in your land of bewilderment. You always find a way to install things about Israelis, yet you seem to think it isn't noticed. Get it now, or not? 

A real man doesn’t get triggered easily and treat his children’s mother badly.

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9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

That is debatable.

We usually try to deflect on to the rude Russians, the pushy Chinese and the straw sharing Indians.

Please keep up.

It was a joke, anyway, it's been taken down now. 

 

Party poopers 

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2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It was a joke, anyway, it's been taken down now. 

 

Party poopers 

I took your comment as a joke 

It was a good one.

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Not surprising. Just look at what the Brits have did to Thailand, smiles have been replaced with, You F**k off.

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13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

along with driving drunk, bragging about it, with no regard for the safety of others,

Absolute garbage.

I am the one who always is advocating for those who had a couple of drinks to take extra care on the roads and observe the road safety signs.

The signs the that you can not read.

I have a flawless driving record in Thailand unlike yourself that has been in more than one accident here. 

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46 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You do not understand this is tourism out of hand, who take apartments away from the local markeds, increasing rent and prices for normal people, as well traffic and noise in the very same areas. 
 

I doubt you have ever seen cheap Charlie tourists in Spain ever, coming mostly from Uk and Nordic countries. 
 

I do not have so much experience with southern Europe who mostly have their holidays one month after us, but I doubt Germans, French and Italians top Uk and the Nordic countries in bad behavior. 
 

Benidorm in the 90’ies was a catastrophe with especially Uk guys fighting in the street 

 

I do not dispute that there is a problem with a subset of tourists. There was just another incident of  drunkards on a junket to Ibiza. However, harassing polite law abiding visitors is not going to fix the problem. Not mentioned is Spain's influx of economic migrants and refugees, It has granted asylum to approx. 1 million migrants over the past 4 years. They have to live somewhere and they are  competing for low cost housing.

 

If there is a problem with some tourists, go after them, and not the quality tourists.  Blaming the tourists is a cop out, an easy way to ignore the source of some of the problem, the Spaniards themselves. The landlords are allegedly  prioritising foreigners over "locals" because the landlords can get higher rents. Go after the landlords who do it then.  The remedy for excessive rent increases is rent controls that require the landlord to file their rent increases with a rental regulator. It is done in other jurisdictions and protects the tenants.  There are complaints of apartments being converted to short term rentals and Air BNB. The solution then is to require such rentals to be registered and to pay the taxes that they are most likely  avoiding now. If there are too many airbnbs in a building, the  number allowed can be  limited. This is done  elsewhere.  It all gets down to Spanish people  wanting to make a profit and/or to avoid taxes. That's not the  tourists' fault.

 

 If tourists are disorderly or litter, then issue tickets and fine them. If they brawl and cause damage, arrest and hold them until they pay the damages. This would require the Spanish police to  actually do something other than sit in speed traps,  and hang out in the station drinking coffee.

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