Is paying the bar to take a girl out of the bar justified? Or just a scam?

[Hummin]

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

With all the bar girl threads this guy has started, he must be gathering info to make his move soon. 

 

He jokes about the house in Isaan, but that's exactly where he seems to be headed.  

 

Nothing wrong with Isaan if you thrive where you can create your own life without to much neighbors and noise. 
 

The last not completely true, true but if you enjoy sounds of insects, frogs, chickens, sheep’s, temple sounds, prayers, village chief who put up bigger speakers, and turn them your way, weddings, funerals, monk ceremonies, any Buddha day where trailers and busses with speakers roms around. Except for that, quiet 🤫 

 

Oh well, one man’s dream, another man’s downfall, up to you. On the other side 32m2 ground floor apartment in a tourist paradise walking distance to everything you dream about? Chang, partygirls with night make up, and more

[DezLez]

2 hours ago, roo860 said:

Daft reply 

Daft topic.

[marin]

13 minutes ago, RoryBreaker said:

Hahaha, you don't even have the intelligence to reply so you just copy and paste a quote you've just googled. Look at what you copied too, bit strange to be fair. Someone should check your hard drive 

One of my favorite lines from an old Buffalo Springfield , Steve Stills songs. No google involved mate. Since you like it I will be happy to give you more. You are paranoid arent you?   "Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away".  Like so many of your previous nicks. How many has it been now?

[RoryBreaker]

1 minute ago, marin said:

One of my favorite lines from an old Buffalo Springfield , Steve Stills songs. No google involved mate. Since you like it I will be happy to give you more. You are paranoid arent you?   "Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away".  Like so many of your previous nicks. How many has it been now?

thats enough now bud, you're making yourself look a bit daft. i'll play with you later ok marin. now go and put the kettle on

[marin]

2 minutes ago, RoryBreaker said:

hats enough now bud, you're making yourself look a bit daft

Bit of a tizzy eh? Try a few deep breaths between posts. It may help.

[RoryBreaker]

9 minutes ago, marin said:

Bit of a tizzy eh? Try a few deep breaths between posts. It may help.

ZZZzzz booooring, go bother some else you little cockroach

[marin]

3 minutes ago, RoryBreaker said:

ZZZzzz booooring, go bother some else you little cockroach

In a tizzy for sure. The Thai's would say Jai Yen Yen....😂

[norsurin]

What a stupid demand from that girl This is just a pure lie.I have took a lady out of a bar and never heard about this kind of bull<deleted> before.Pay her dept??? Pay her trip to hell better.

I hope he never ever meet this trash lady and block her right away.

[Presnock]

6 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

The bar probably paid her to begin with, she probably gets living quarters, etc and yeah probably has a bunch of debts.  She may be trying to scam him but the bar will want the payout for sure unless things have changed.

[Hummin]

20 minutes ago, Presnock said:

The bar probably paid her to begin with, she probably gets living quarters, etc and yeah probably has a bunch of debts.  She may be trying to scam him but the bar will want the payout for sure unless things have changed.

Where do you have this from? 

 

No girls have dept, the bar keep their money, until payday, and even some bars keeps one month even restaurants pay, so they are not going to run away without notice. 

 

BS the girls own the bars money. Trafficking world wide operate like that, but in Thailand at normal bars, no

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

If it is a common question, then it has been addressed  previously multiple times.

The purchase of human flesh by losers seeking to exploit vulnerable and desperate people is indeed disgusting.

Repeated discussions n effect normalize the exploitation of  people.

 

 

Only to those who  seek approval of others as they exploit other humans. What's next a price list or a listing of bars on where to find 12 year olds for lewd sexual acts?

 

 

Your trying to cover up what the thread is about: The normalization of sexploitation. You are all for it. and so are some others. Well, I am not. You want to promote the depravity, fine. I can say no to it.

 

 

Are you aware the world's oldest profession has been around since the beginning of man?  Shortly after Adam and Eve (Eve’s fault) were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. 

 

Or is this a new concept you’ve recently discovered?

 

Are you a “save the world “ and a “do gooder”    type online while participating when “no one’s watching “.?  More likely than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

5 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Are you aware the world's oldest profession has been around since the beginning of man?  Shortly after Adam and Eve (Eve’s fault) were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. 

 

Or is this a new concept you’ve recently discovered?

 

Are you a “save the world “ and a “do gooder”    type online while participating when “no one’s watching “.?  More likely than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think he is; just someone who enjoys a bit of a wind-up!

[RAZZELL]

7 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

 

Basically the "buy me out of the bar" is a ruse by the bar to compensate them for the loss of a "valuable" staff member...

 

The money usually gets divided up between the bar and staff member on say a 70-30 split.

 

It is to enable the girl to go back to work in the bar - a sort of "no hard feelings for leaving you" gift and should enable her return to work if things don't work out. You could even say it comes under "greng jai."

 

I have a mate who owns a bar and they "ask" for about 10k...and sometimes get it. (But the women are mostly in their 40s and 50s and anything but "hot" )

 

What some posters don't get is the "obligation" many Thais feel to any employer or perceived social superiors. Just look at how the staff in a bank, office, or security "wai" their "bosses" in the morning.

 

 

 

 

[Keeps]

52 minutes ago, RAZZELL said:

 

Basically the "buy me out of the bar" is a ruse by the bar to compensate them for the loss of a "valuable" staff member...

 

The money usually gets divided up between the bar and staff member on say a 70-30 split.

 

It is to enable the girl to go back to work in the bar - a sort of "no hard feelings for leaving you" gift and should enable her return to work if things don't work out. You could even say it comes under "greng jai."

 

I have a mate who owns a bar and they "ask" for about 10k...and sometimes get it. (But the women are mostly in their 40s and 50s and anything but "hot" )

 

What some posters don't get is the "obligation" many Thais feel to any employer or perceived social superiors. Just look at how the staff in a bank, office, or security "wai" their "bosses" in the morning.

 

 

 

 

I agree. Thai acquaintance of mine owns a bar on Samui and the 'buy out' for a good looking girl is 10k. This is split roughly in the percentages you mention between the bar and girl.

 

Many years ago I was a bit of a barfly. It seemed to be the case that particularly in the smaller bars run by a Thai mamassan, a lot of the girls came from the same village as mamassan. I got the impression they didn't want to cause any ill feeling with the boss by just leaving. This could have ramifications between the families back in the village. The 'buy out' seemed to keep everyone happy and left the door open for a return when/if the relationship with the punter went sour.

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, Keeps said:

I agree. Thai acquaintance of mine owns a bar on Samui and the 'buy out' for a good looking girl is 10k.

So it is a thing and all the other members saying it is not didn’t know what they were talking about.

Can always rely on Keeps for accurate information. 
 

Especially when it comes to paying prostitutes.
 

Thanks champ.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, RAZZELL said:

 

Basically the "buy me out of the bar" is a ruse by the bar to compensate them for the loss of a "valuable" staff member...

 

The money usually gets divided up between the bar and staff member on say a 70-30 split.

 

It is to enable the girl to go back to work in the bar - a sort of "no hard feelings for leaving you" gift and should enable her return to work if things don't work out. You could even say it comes under "greng jai."

 

I have a mate who owns a bar and they "ask" for about 10k...and sometimes get it. (But the women are mostly in their 40s and 50s and anything but "hot" )

 

What some posters don't get is the "obligation" many Thais feel to any employer or perceived social superiors. Just look at how the staff in a bank, office, or security "wai" their "bosses" in the morning.

 

 

 

 

Alright I will tell my friend to just pay it. It is grengjai Thai culture. 
Maybe the bar could give me a free bar fine for managing the negotiations to show me some grengjai also.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Are you aware the world's oldest profession has been around since the beginning of man?  Shortly after Adam and Eve (Eve’s fault) were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. 

 

Or is this a new concept you’ve recently discovered?

 

Are you a “save the world “ and a “do gooder”    type online while participating when “no one’s watching “.?  More likely than not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What was the barfine price for Eve back in the day?

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Alright I will tell my friend to just pay it. It is grengjai Thai culture. 
Maybe the bar could give me a free bar fine for managing the negotiations to show me some grengjai also.

Just pay it, matey................😉...............🤗

[Peabody]

Total scammer.

 

[MalcolmB]

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

whats up with the shaved thing... I hate it.

Makes them look a lot younger

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

If it is a common question, then it has been addressed  previously multiple times.

The purchase of human flesh by losers seeking to exploit vulnerable and desperate people is indeed disgusting.

Repeated discussions n effect normalize the exploitation of  people.

 

 

Only to those who  seek approval of others as they exploit other humans. What's next a price list or a listing of bars on where to find 12 year olds for lewd sexual acts?

 

 

Your trying to cover up what the thread is about: The normalization of sexploitation. You are all for it. and so are some others. Well, I am not. You want to promote the depravity, fine. I can say no to it.

 

 

So you named yourself Patong after the beach and temples?

[Magictoad]

Entirely justified 

[Keeps]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Just pay it, matey................😉...............🤗

He'd probably need a GoFundMe to cobble 10k THB together. 

 

It's also a steep price to pay for what, around 4 days? Can't see it being any longer than that before any self respecting girl would ditch the bogan.

 

Bit out of Malky boys price range.

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Keeps said:

Bit out of Malky boys price range.

You are not wrong there.

I think I would prefer the caddy for 500 instead.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

FIXED - 

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off - but he is an idiot.

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Makes them look a lot younger

Prepubescent ?

[MalcolmB]

7 minutes ago, Keeps said:

any self respecting girl

We are talking prostitutes, not about girls with self respect.

 

Any girl with self respect would be free.

 

Funny how life works.

[swerve]

I think it's mostly a made up scam between the girl and the bar.  However, the girl could owe the bar money from a loan or whatever and the bar wants to get repaid.

[BusyB]

9 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

It's a job, she quits end of story. 

 

Her job is to squeeze as much lucre as possible out of those who swarm around Thailand's bars looking for 'love'. She seems to be quite adept at it.

[JAG]

8 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

Well in my case it is because I am handsome!

 

On my occasional forays to the very limited bar scene in my neck of the woods I chat, flirt, buy drinks for the girl who I am with and enjoy myself. I don't shag them, bar fine or grope. I do usually enjoy a kiss when I leave the bar. But then, as I said, I am universally regarded as handsome.