And then there’s this:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-sex-trafficking-conviction-appeal-supreme-court-doj-epstein-2025-7?international=true&r=US&IR=T

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And then there’s this:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-sex-trafficking-conviction-appeal-supreme-court-doj-epstein-2025-7?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Paywall sites don't do us a lot of good. 🤥

Trump Campaign promises:
Release the Epstein List
Reduce the National Debt
End War

47 Presidential Reality
"What Epstein List. Are you still taking about Epstein?"
Big Beautiful Abomination of a Bill that adds $5 Trillion to the National Debt
Sends loads of weapons of Ukraine and Israel, bombs Iran, promises war with China, threatens all of BRICS

He's already lost his base.  We'll see it come the 2026 mid-terms. Not that the Democrats are better. They're not.  But his base will vote Democrat as a protest vote and kiss the House and Senate goodbye, after which he'll be impeached - again.

16 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Paywall sites don't do us a lot of good. 🤥

I’ve opened it three times in a row, no paywall.

 

Perhaps a regional thing.

58 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Paywall sites don't do us a lot of good. 🤥

I suggest using this site to remove all paywalls. Use the search function first because I find that quite often the article I wanna access has been saved already.

 

https://archive.ph/

 

Here is the Business Insider article, and it was saved already.

 

https://archive.ph/rvsO2

1 hour ago, bubblegum said:

GOP vote against releasing the files. Wonder why.

At all costs protect the guilty buffoon. 

17 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The obsession  with  "conspiracies"  is tiresome and unproductive. In this case, team Trump are the source of their own problems. They pushed and promoted a conspiracy, when there was none, and now they have to come clean that there was no conspiracy.

 

The reality is that Epstein was just a more polished version of a conman finance promoter. He was an uneducated, crass, mathematical whizz kid, who thought he was smarter than he was. The reality is that his unethical activities were a reflection of the US financial markets, and that is what no one wants to admit to.  The Feds got Al Capone on tax evasion, and they got Epstein on  sex crimes. It did not mean that Al was any worse than many US citizens in respect to tax evasion, and it does not mean that Epstein was any worse than other US citizens in the matters of sexual pandering and pimping.

 

The Epstein affair is over. Time to move on. If people really care, then focus on ongoing activities. It is a certainty that similar activity continues today, perhaps more discreetly, but no one is talking about stopping it. Instead, they are fixated on a dead bad man.

 

The Epstein affair is NOT over...as a matter of fact, it is just getting started. Consider this: if Ghislaine Maxwell pushes to have her case overturned and demands a re-trial on the basis of the claims that there are NO Epstein clients, how do you think the MAGA base will react?  

The fixation is not, as you claim, on a dead bad man, but rather on the need for justice for the large number of under age women who were exploited by Epstein and his buddies. Do you not sense the moral need of both punishment for the guilty and  compensation for all the victims of this evil enterprise?  

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve opened it three times in a row, no paywall.

 

Perhaps a regional thing.

Worked for me just now in Thailand on Edge no VPN!

the quagmire continues.

 

 

11 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

But you can't refute anything Spider posts, can you?

 

Deflect, deflect, deflect . . .

i can…..

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

At all costs protect the guilty buffoon. 

 

If there was anything there, the BIden admin would have released the files. 

Tear apart, you have got to be kidding. I am more MAGA than ever. 

8 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Tear apart, you have got to be kidding. I am more MAGA than ever. 

The more he lies ang gets screwed by putin, the more you love him. 

 

Om my

1 hour ago, b17 said:

The Epstein affair is NOT over...as a matter of fact, it is just getting started. Consider this: if Ghislaine Maxwell pushes to have her case overturned and demands a re-trial on the basis of the claims that there are NO Epstein clients, how do you think the MAGA base will react?  

The fixation is not, as you claim, on a dead bad man, but rather on the need for justice for the large number of under age women who were exploited by Epstein and his buddies. Do you not sense the moral need of both punishment for the guilty and  compensation for all the victims of this evil enterprise?  

Thank you for that reply, it's always nice to see a voice of reason in the wilderness of delusion and highly defensive, and bombastic replies without any offer of an argument. Just defend, defend, defend. Even though he's stepped over line so many times he doesn't deserve a defense. 

 

Did he get with girls of a statutory age? Well it's quite likely. Will we ever have proof, while he is still living? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure he did and I think there's a good reason why he's putting such a substantial amount of effort into keeping that list hidden. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

Did he get with girls of a statutory age? Well it's quite likely. Will we ever have proof, while he is still living? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure he did and I think there's a good reason why he's putting such a substantial amount of effort into keeping that list hidden. 

 

 

 

I can ask the some about you.   Is this why you moved to Thailand? 

Why are Trump's supporters trying to deflect? Aren't they appalled?

The daily show

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19fF45ZYuB/

 

8 hours ago, Wingate said:

Goodness, fella. Put down whatever it is you're smoking, and give a shot at accessing reality. No visa required.

 

Yes, I'm a "Deep State" denier. Not only that, I know that anyone who uses that term in any way except as a joke, is somewhere between woefully naive and batsh!t crazy.

 

To believe in something so farcical is indicative of a person who convinces himself he is "aware" because he did "research".

 

No, you just have Dunning-Kreuger and think you're more aware than you are.

 

Grown ups know that the absurdity lunatics call "Deep State" is impossible in a world with so many different variables and so many competing forces.

 

Now if you need a "Deep State" to make you feel better about the way your life has turned out (nothing is your fault, but the Deep State kept you down), then knock yourself silly.

He's just relaying the current Russian disruptive strategy. 

They don't seem to be wondering why we they aren't talking about it any more for some strange reason.

 

 

5 hours ago, b17 said:

The Epstein affair is NOT over...as a matter of fact, it is just getting started. Consider this: if Ghislaine Maxwell pushes to have her case overturned and demands a re-trial on the basis of the claims that there are NO Epstein clients, how do you think the MAGA base will react?  

The fixation is not, as you claim, on a dead bad man, but rather on the need for justice for the large number of under age women who were exploited by Epstein and his buddies. Do you not sense the moral need of both punishment for the guilty and  compensation for all the victims of this evil enterprise?  

 

There has been no denial of there being clients of Epstein. The man was selling financial services, so of course he had clients. Those client lists   are already known because they were entered as  evidence. What is being denied is a formal list of people, kept by Epstein, who were provided with sexual services. The man was a math whizz kid and had an excellent memory. it is unlikely that he kept written records of such activities, particularly when he had  faced earlier investigations. even if there might  have been an informal list, it would have been destroyed years earlier when the first investigations arose.

 

4 hours ago, illisdean said:

the quagmire continues.

 

 

 

 

Dershowitz statements do not support the use of the term hidden.  The self identified  victims, gave names of people they said were involved. The judge has not  allowed publication of the names to protect both the victims and the accused. This is normal and  accepted practice in sex crime cases. There is no proof that the claims are correct, nor have the accused been convicted of any crimes. They are entitled to the presumption of innocence. the people making the allegations do not want their own identities  revealed and are entitled to their privacy, to prevent their being harassed or otherwise harmed by  demented people who are claiming conspiracy or coverup or fakery.

6 minutes ago, shdmn said:

They don't seem to be wondering why we they aren't talking about it any more for some strange reason.

 

And Vance's idiocy has come back to bite him on his  plump posterior. He was wrong  when he posted that stupidity and now he has to deal with the consequences. The fact that Vance said it, did not make it true.

He wasn't wrong. Don't talk wet.

6 hours ago, b17 said:

The Epstein affair is NOT over...as a matter of fact, it is just getting started. Consider this: if Ghislaine Maxwell pushes to have her case overturned and demands a re-trial on the basis of the claims that there are NO Epstein clients, how do you think the MAGA base will react?  

That argument wouldn't wash. She wasn't convicted based on anything to do with any of Epstein's clients.

 

She was convicted based on what she herself did personally, to multiple victims. 

On 7/14/2025 at 9:11 PM, bubblegum said:

Nothing to say on topic so why bother to post? You feel you're important?

Come on, he is saving all the frogs. Imagine all the frog legs we can eat.......

Would like to think he would been through a training program about common well known indicators of lying 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16Sp8gFEAT/

 

Looking up and to the right while talking, according to some interpretations of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), can indicate that someone is creating a visual image or scenario in their mind, potentially indicating they are fabricating a story or lying

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And Vance's idiocy has come back to bite him on his  plump posterior. He was wrong  when he posted that stupidity and now he has to deal with the consequences. The fact that Vance said it, did not make it true.

It is highly unlikely Vance has uttered the truth since his morally bankrupt conversion and the selling of his soul for power. He embarrasses the US every time he opens his mouth. But, so does Trump. 

More hopium from the guy with no life. Posts for hours in States. Allegedly returns to Thailand...same.

 

 

Early in the thread I posted three or four links completely dismissing this possibility. Here's yet another one posted also within hours

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/07/15/new-polling-finds-strong-bipartisan-support-trumps-immigration-policies/

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is highly unlikely Vance has uttered the truth since his morally bankrupt conversion and the selling of his soul for power. He embarrasses the US every time he opens his mouth. But, so does Trump. 

 

Right. Yale JD degree. Can't speak. You, master oratory skills.

17 hours ago, SMIAI said:

It's not that I need to know, but we understand that there are reasons for the cover up. There IS a cover up. Of that there is little doubt.

 

 

Well, if you "know" about it, it's not a very good "cover up".

 

 

16 hours ago, connda said:

Trump Campaign promises:
Release the Epstein List
Reduce the National Debt
End War

47 Presidential Reality
"What Epstein List. Are you still taking about Epstein?"
Big Beautiful Abomination of a Bill that adds $5 Trillion to the National Debt
Sends loads of weapons of Ukraine and Israel, bombs Iran, promises war with China, threatens all of BRICS

He's already lost his base.  We'll see it come the 2026 mid-terms. Not that the Democrats are better. They're not.  But his base will vote Democrat as a protest vote and kiss the House and Senate goodbye, after which he'll be impeached - again.

 

No one except fat middle aged cat women and homosexuals voting Dem. Oh, and all the beta brokies like on this forum

 

Even Gen Z has rejected the noise machine.

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/07/15/new-polling-finds-strong-bipartisan-support-trumps-immigration-policies/