Since I have a mild case of psoriasis, my dermatologist told me to avoid noodles in general, but especially those sold at 7/11. I used to be a regular consumer. But I ask you: are Seven Eleven noodles really that bad for our health? Thank you.

ones sold in the Sevens are sold in many other stores too.. why did the Doc single out the Seven ?

10 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

ones sold in the Sevens are sold in many other stores too.. why did the Doc single out the Seven ?

I think she meant  7/11 as an example, but certainly the ones you buy at Seven Eleven you can buy everywhere.

32 minutes ago, Fabio1980 said:

Since I have a mild case of psoriasis, my dermatologist told me to avoid noodles in general, but especially those sold at 7/11. I used to be a regular consumer. But I ask you: are Seven Eleven noodles really that bad for our health? Thank you.

All ultra-processed food is bad to varying degrees depending on degree of processing.  Cook decent food, or get decent food from other stalls or restaurants.   Fermented food is very good for the physiology & general health - anything that provides food for the bacteria in the gut.  So for noodles go for Khanom Jeen (the fermented - not so easy to find)

1 hour ago, Fabio1980 said:

Since I have a mild case of psoriasis, my dermatologist told me to avoid noodles in general, but especially those sold at 7/11. I used to be a regular consumer. But I ask you: are Seven Eleven noodles really that bad for our health? Thank you.

Yes they're bad for you, check ingredients, includes palm oil last time I looked

I believe that the doctor was suggesting to stop eating wheat products in general, rather than 'noodles' at '7-Eleven.

Many health benefits to avoiding them, including skin care.
I was amazed at the difference that my body felt when I stopped eating noodles, breads, cakes, etc., made with wheat flour. 

It was an eye-opening change for me.

3 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

I believe that the doctor was suggesting to stop eating wheat products in general, rather than 'noodles' at '7-Eleven.

You're right: in collaboration with a dietitian, they gave me a diet to follow for the next six months, specifically for psoriasis. While they recommended certain foods to see if they could be "bad" for psoriasis, noodles, sweets, bread, and other products were completely banned from the diet.

2 hours ago, Fabio1980 said:

You're right: in collaboration with a dietitian, they gave me a diet to follow for the next six months, specifically for psoriasis. While they recommended certain foods to see if they could be "bad" for psoriasis, noodles, sweets, bread, and other products were completely banned from the diet.

Keep in mind that what they are actually removing from your diet are starches and sugars. You CAN eat bread that isn't made with wheat flour, just as we do following the Keto lifestyle.

I think you will find even more physical comfort if you get rid of the other starches, too, such as root vegetables. Load up on the green vegetables instead of potatoes and squash.  If you need a replacement for potatoes, look towards mashed cauliflower. With salt and butter, or sour cream, it tastes so very close but without the starch!

18 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

If you need a replacement for potatoes, look towards mashed cauliflower.

Or pumpkin.

You could be allergic to wheat or gluten which manifests as skin inflammation. The Thai Public Health Administration has recently urged vigilance regarding contamination in instant noodles, particularly concerning ethylene oxide residue.

A number of years ago contaminated noodles in India, Maggi, produced by Nestle, was found to contain ~7 times the allowable amount of lead. Lead is a known factor in skin allergies among other maladies.

Anyhow, ultra processed noodles are a very poor source of nutrition. 

Fresh noodles are sold in most supermarkets.

 

1 hour ago, mfd101 said:

Or pumpkin.

I've always loved eating pumpkin, however it's cooked and presented. In my prescribed diet, there are three dishes based on or featuring pumpkin.

A reference to MSG consumption?

 

1 hour ago, Fabio1980 said:

I've always loved eating pumpkin, however it's cooked and presented. In my prescribed diet, there are three dishes based on or featuring pumpkin.

The Summer squashes are OK, too. Just not so much the winter ones. The Glycemic Index (that folks with Diabetes use for their food selection) shows Summer squash, such as Zucchini, to have almost half the amount of starches and sugars as the winter varieties, and can take on a variety of flavors depending on the dish. I even use Zucchini sometimes to make my pasta dishes! With a good pasta sauce, parmesan cheese, perhaps a side of Italian sausage, Zucchini 'zoodles' easily take the place of wheat noodles with comparably no starch or sugar, but keeping the great taste!

8 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

The Summer squashes are OK, too. Just not so much the winter ones. The Glycemic Index (that folks with Diabetes use for their food selection) shows Summer squash, such as Zucchini, to have almost half the amount of starches and sugars as the winter varieties, and can take on a variety of flavors depending on the dish. I even use Zucchini sometimes to make my pasta dishes! With a good pasta sauce, parmesan cheese, perhaps a side of Italian sausage, Zucchini 'zoodles' easily take the place of wheat noodles with comparably no starch or sugar, but keeping the great taste!

Great to know. Thanks a lot.

On 7/17/2025 at 11:18 AM, Fabio1980 said:

You're right: in collaboration with a dietitian, they gave me a diet to follow for the next six months, specifically for psoriasis. While they recommended certain foods to see if they could be "bad" for psoriasis, noodles, sweets, bread, and other products were completely banned from the diet.

That sounds like advice from a proper dermatologist. I consulted mine, likely the most recommended in Chiang Mai, who pushed me toward $1,000 a-month immune-suppressing injections for a mild case!. Who is your dermatologist, and could you recommend them?

6 hours ago, falangUK said:

That sounds like advice from a proper dermatologist. I consulted mine, likely the most recommended in Chiang Mai, who pushed me toward $1,000 a-month immune-suppressing injections for a mild case!. Who is your dermatologist, and could you recommend them?

I should start by saying that the first dermatologist ruined my skin by only giving me steroid pills and creams. Now I have patches of skin so thin I can cut myself for nothing. The second dermatologist, much more professional, never gave me any creams or pills, and thanks to my diet, I'm able to keep it under control. I have a mild form of psoriasis, so biologic injections are out of the question. I travel to Bkk every month for the monthly visit here:

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/centers/skin-dermatology-center-bangkok-thailand

9 hours ago, Fabio1980 said:

I should start by saying that the first dermatologist ruined my skin by only giving me steroid pills and creams. Now I have patches of skin so thin I can cut myself for nothing. The second dermatologist, much more professional, never gave me any creams or pills, and thanks to my diet, I'm able to keep it under control. I have a mild form of psoriasis, so biologic injections are out of the question. I travel to Bkk every month for the monthly visit here:

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/centers/skin-dermatology-center-bangkok-thailand

 

Thank you really appreciate it.

Do you have a specific specialist at Bumrungrad you'd recommend? 
Was the first dermatologist who gave you steroids also based there?

Also curious how did you find your dietician? Was it through Bumrungrad, or did someone there refer you?

In the UK, NHS doctors gave me 4–5 different steroid creams (like Daktacort), and that actually made my mild psoriasis flare up. 
They did eventually refer me to a specialist, but I wasn’t very convinced. Diet was never mentioned as a factor in treatment.
A specialist I saw in Chiang Mai brought up biologic injections said they suppress the immune system, cost around $1,000/month, and while results were not “guaranteed,” she claimed they had no side effects. That didn’t sit right with me. The idea of suppressing the immune system without long-term certainty or side effects just didn’t convince me.

11 hours ago, falangUK said:

 

Thank you really appreciate it.

Do you have a specific specialist at Bumrungrad you'd recommend? 
Was the first dermatologist who gave you steroids also based there?

Also curious how did you find your dietician? Was it through Bumrungrad, or did someone there refer you?

In the UK, NHS doctors gave me 4–5 different steroid creams (like Daktacort), and that actually made my mild psoriasis flare up. 
They did eventually refer me to a specialist, but I wasn’t very convinced. Diet was never mentioned as a factor in treatment.

If I had to tell you her name, I cannot remember now, but when I went, they sent me that dermatologist who specializes in psoriasis. I have to go back in a few days and I'll tell you her name. The dermatologist herself recommended the dietitian. The first dermatologist didn't work in any hospital, but had a private clinic.

In addition to the diet, the dietitian also put me on a controlled fast: first for three hours, then six, then nine, and now 12. From 8 pm to 8 am, only water. I find the diet and everything related to it a real panacea, not only for psoriasis, but also for my body in general: I've noticed that now I can control my hunger better and avoid indulging in junk food. Since I've never had weight problems, the diet is heavily based on certain vegetables, fish, and meat, but always boiled or sautéed.

12 hours ago, falangUK said:

 

Thank you really appreciate it.

Do you have a specific specialist at Bumrungrad you'd recommend? 
Was the first dermatologist who gave you steroids also based there?

Also curious how did you find your dietician? Was it through Bumrungrad, or did someone there refer you?

In the UK, NHS doctors gave me 4–5 different steroid creams (like Daktacort), and that actually made my mild psoriasis flare up. 
They did eventually refer me to a specialist, but I wasn’t very convinced. Diet was never mentioned as a factor in treatment.
A specialist I saw in Chiang Mai brought up biologic injections said they suppress the immune system, cost around $1,000/month, and while results were not “guaranteed,” she claimed they had no side effects. That didn’t sit right with me. The idea of suppressing the immune system without long-term certainty or side effects just didn’t convince me.

Diet is often key factor in many diseases, as it affects the microbiome which influences the gut through changes in the chemical molecules senses by the gut with signals sent via the vagus nerve to the brain.

For good health, food taken in must feed the microbes (Archaea, Bacteria, Fungi) in the gut what they need so that they produce the other chemicals that we humans cannot synthesise ourselves.

15 hours ago, Fabio1980 said:

If I had to tell you her name, I cannot remember now, but when I went, they sent me that dermatologist who specializes in psoriasis. I have to go back in a few days and I'll tell you her name. The dermatologist herself recommended the dietitian. The first dermatologist didn't work in any hospital, but had a private clinic.

In addition to the diet, the dietitian also put me on a controlled fast: first for three hours, then six, then nine, and now 12. From 8 pm to 8 am, only water. I find the diet and everything related to it a real panacea, not only for psoriasis, but also for my body in general: I've noticed that now I can control my hunger better and avoid indulging in junk food. Since I've never had weight problems, the diet is heavily based on certain vegetables, fish, and meat, but always boiled or sautéed.

Thank you so much ,  really appreciate it. 

Thanks also for the diet info, super helpful. I’ve been eating a lot of junk lately — Thai kanom, bread, etc. This is after a full year of avoiding sugar and bread, and honestly didn’t see much difference in the mild psoriasis during that time. Maybe it was just under control.

Anyway, definitely a good idea to clean up the diet. Everything here has sugar — even the water, lol.

I don’t eat on a regular schedule, just when I’m hungry, so dieting shouldn’t be too hard. I usually eat one meal a day, though with all the junk recently, it probably adds up to several diets.

14 hours ago, MarkBR said:

Diet is often key factor in many diseases, as it affects the microbiome which influences the gut through changes in the chemical molecules senses by the gut with signals sent via the vagus nerve to the brain.

For good health, food taken in must feed the microbes (Archaea, Bacteria, Fungi) in the gut what they need so that they produce the other chemicals that we humans cannot synthesise ourselves.

My microbiome’s probably pretty messed up. Is it just a matter of eating stuff like fermented foods,  sauerkraut, kimchi, etc.? Or yogurt (which I hate), Yakult? Or is it better to go with pills or supplements?

7 hours ago, falangUK said:

 

I don’t eat on a regular schedule, just when I’m hungry, so dieting shouldn’t be too hard. I usually eat one meal a day

In my experience, don't do that. I've noticed that by following the three-meal-a-day diet and controlled fasting, I can control my hunger and not have the urge to eat outside of the prescribed meals. But its just my experience.

7 hours ago, falangUK said:

My microbiome’s probably pretty messed up.

Mine was and and the first thing that the diet helped me achieve was the "modulation" of the intestinal microbiome:  my diet is also full of variety of fruits (not pineapple), vegetables (not all), whole grains, and legumes. Also yogurt is in my diet (probiotics) and 90% of the dishes in the diet has garlic and onion (prebiotics).

On 7/18/2025 at 9:34 AM, Fabio1980 said:

I've always loved eating pumpkin, however it's cooked and presented. In my prescribed diet, there are three dishes based on or featuring pumpkin.

Pumpkin here is actually a form of squash, kabocha, which is one of the healthiest starch vegetables. Squashes themselves are full of nutrients. Some have more carbs than others, but eating anything grown isn't a problem as far as calories are concerned. It's what's added to them that hurts.  As far as your noodles, besides them being high in sodium and fat, like another mentioned, you might have a wheat intolerance. You can make soups with rice noodles. I make them weekly, sometimes a Pho, using a variety of noodles, and adding onion, scallions, garlic, rice noodles, chicken, broth, ginger, coriander,cilantro, fennel, basil and lime. Low calorie, no wheat and healthy. You and others mentioned the gut microbiome. Mine was messes up from H Pylori I got living here. After treatment, and before, I've always eaten very healthy, but after more yogurt, kimchi, pickles, probiotics and collagen. 

20 hours ago, Fabio1980 said:

In my experience, don't do that. I've noticed that by following the three-meal-a-day diet and controlled fasting, I can control my hunger and not have the urge to eat outside of the prescribed meals. But its just my experience.

Are your meals on a set schedule now, like breakfast at 10, lunch at 12, and dinner around 8? That’d be tough for me to stick to with my sleep all over the place, thanks to endless Netflix and YouTube sessions lol.

 

20 hours ago, Fabio1980 said:

Mine was and and the first thing that the diet helped me achieve was the "modulation" of the intestinal microbiome:  my diet is also full of variety of fruits (not pineapple), vegetables (not all), whole grains, and legumes. Also yogurt is in my diet (probiotics) and 90% of the dishes in the diet has garlic and onion (prebiotics).

Did they actually measure your gut microbiome? Is there a way to test that? Sounds really interesting.
Also, are you vegetarian or vegan? Is meat totally off the table in your diet, like, is fish at least allowed? I do love a good steak, but I wouldn’t mind going part-time vegetarian if it actually benefits the gut microbiome.

20 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Pumpkin here is actually a form of squash, kabocha, which is one of the healthiest starch vegetables. Squashes themselves are full of nutrients. Some have more carbs than others, but eating anything grown isn't a problem as far as calories are concerned. It's what's added to them that hurts.  As far as your noodles, besides them being high in sodium and fat, like another mentioned, you might have a wheat intolerance. You can make soups with rice noodles. I make them weekly, sometimes a Pho, using a variety of noodles, and adding onion, scallions, garlic, rice noodles, chicken, broth, ginger, coriander,cilantro, fennel, basil and lime. Low calorie, no wheat and healthy. You and others mentioned the gut microbiome. Mine was messes up from H Pylori I got living here. After treatment, and before, I've always eaten very healthy, but after more yogurt, kimchi, pickles, probiotics and collagen. 

Not sure how normal it is, but I’ve always hated any kind of pumpkin and yogurt. Pho, though, that I love, especially when I’m in Vietnam. And Bún bò Huế, Easily one of my favourites. I’m also big on kimchi and pickles, so I guess there’s still some hope for my gut microbiome after all.

On 7/16/2025 at 12:20 PM, Fabio1980 said:

Since I have a mild case of psoriasis, my dermatologist told me to avoid noodles in general, but especially those sold at 7/11. I used to be a regular consumer. But I ask you: are Seven Eleven noodles really that bad for our health? Thank you.

I always had a feeling Mama noodles were bad for me, no matter how good they taste. I still love them, but I only eat them maybe 3 times a year as a rare treat. My logic was: if something tastes that good, it probably isn’t great for you. I usually use less than half of the seasoning powder and that oily packet when I make them, just to tone it down a bit. But yeah, I guess Mama’s pretty bad for you overall lol.

1 hour ago, falangUK said:

I always had a feeling Mama noodles were bad for me, no matter how good they taste. I still love them, but I only eat them maybe 3 times a year as a rare treat. My logic was: if something tastes that good, it probably isn’t great for you. I usually use less than half of the seasoning powder and that oily packet when I make them, just to tone it down a bit. But yeah, I guess Mama’s pretty bad for you overall lol.

I only occasionally eat them myself, preferring to buy Japanese noodles and adding some spices. I also use 1/2 a packet and no oil with the mama. The gut can take up to two years to get back to normal after H Pylori treatment of some other antibiotic use so don't feel bad.

12 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I only occasionally eat them myself, preferring to buy Japanese noodles and adding some spices. I also use 1/2 a packet and no oil with the mama. The gut can take up to two years to get back to normal after H Pylori treatment of some other antibiotic use so don't feel bad.

Never realised Japanese noodles were an option, are they like udon? do you have to get them from a specialty shop?

6 minutes ago, falangUK said:

Never realised Japanese noodles were an option, are they like udon? do you have to get them from a specialty shop?

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