Civil war in Europe?

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

The crusades were in the Near East lol. This is EU

 

What is?

[TroubleandGrumpy]

12 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

 

The crusades were in the Near East lol. This is EU

The "Crusades" were a series of holy wars between Islam and Christendom that started when the Christian Nations united and drove Islamic forces out of France and Austria - and then most of Europe. Check out the real history - it took 100s of years. Islam conquered and ruled most parts of Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Hungary, Greece, and Turkey.  The Christians won more than they lost in Europe and after driving out Islam they then moved on to the Holy Lands - often this part is called Crusades these days - but it all started a long time before that. The 'crusade' was to remove Islam from Europe. 

 

Whilst the modern woke version of history says that the Pope called for the invasion of the Holy Lands and that started the problems and violence between Islam and the West, the truth is that the Christian Nations were driving Islam out of Europe after Islam had invaded and conquered large parts of Eastern and Southern Europe. When Islam moved on France and Austria that resulted in Christendom uniting and taking action. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

If the political elites keep letting down the citizens then I fear the worst.

 

The people of Europe have been extremely patient, but when they feel like they cannot change things via the ballot box, that they are not being listened to, they are inclined to take things into their own hands. The authorities know this which is why they are crushing dissent so aggressively, with multiple year sentences handed out simply for social media posts.

 

It's a pressure cooker and they are doing their best to keep the lid on it. Unfortunately, they also continue to increase the heat. I believe this is unwise.

 

Let's hope they wake up and read the room before we see any more worrying scenes like we've seen lately in Ireland, Britain, Spain etc. This needs to be fixed with robust immigration policies and border control, not violence. 

You are right - it has happened before. This is my response to another poster:-

 

The "Crusades" were a series of holy wars between Islam and Christendom that started when the Christian Nations united and drove Islamic forces out of France and Austria - and then most of Europe. Check out the real history - it took 100s of years. Islam conquered and ruled most parts of Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Hungary, Greece, and Turkey.  The Christians won more than they lost in Europe and after driving out Islam they then moved on to the Holy Lands - often this part is called Crusades these days - but it all started a long time before that. The 'crusade' was to remove Islam from Europe. 

 

Whilst the modern woke version of history says that the Pope called for the invasion of the Holy Lands and that started the problems and violence between Islam and the West, the truth is that the Christian Nations were driving Islam out of Europe after Islam had invaded and conquered large parts of Eastern and Southern Europe. When Islam moved on France and Austria that resulted in Christendom uniting and taking action. 

 

The point is that it was not until Islam tried to conquer France and Austria that Europe united and reacted. It took 100s of years but they drove them out and then invaded the Holy Lands and took Jerusalem - things have been 'difficult' ever since.  If Islam is not careful the next 'Crusades' as such could result in their obliteration. 

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Whilst the modern woke version of history says that the Pope called for the invasion of the Holy Lands and that started the problems and violence between Islam and the West 

Strange version would that be. Where did you read that version?

[Oliver Holzerfilled]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Angry expats in Thailand ready to go back home to serve on the front lines.

 

With the troops supported by Private Higgot, Chief Cook and Bottle Washer.

[josephbloggs]

13 hours ago, morrobay said:

The national rally / Le Pen in France, The AfD in Germany as well as the other " far right parties" in Europe are blocked by procedural conspiracies by the elite globalists cabals. It's getting ugly.

"Blocked by Procedural Conspiracies", aka "Lost Elections".

Conspiracy nonsense, it is hilarious.

[nauseus]

14 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You are right - it has happened before. This is my response to another poster:-

 

The "Crusades" were a series of holy wars between Islam and Christendom that started when the Christian Nations united and drove Islamic forces out of France and Austria - and then most of Europe. Check out the real history - it took 100s of years. Islam conquered and ruled most parts of Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Hungary, Greece, and Turkey.  The Christians won more than they lost in Europe and after driving out Islam they then moved on to the Holy Lands - often this part is called Crusades these days - but it all started a long time before that. The 'crusade' was to remove Islam from Europe. 

 

Whilst the modern woke version of history says that the Pope called for the invasion of the Holy Lands and that started the problems and violence between Islam and the West, the truth is that the Christian Nations were driving Islam out of Europe after Islam had invaded and conquered large parts of Eastern and Southern Europe. When Islam moved on France and Austria that resulted in Christendom uniting and taking action. 

 

The point is that it was not until Islam tried to conquer France and Austria that Europe united and reacted. It took 100s of years but they drove them out and then invaded the Holy Lands and took Jerusalem - things have been 'difficult' ever since.  If Islam is not careful the next 'Crusades' as such could result in their obliteration. 

 

The point is that your sequencing and descriptions are all over the place.

[nauseus]

Detailed timeline in here:\

 

https://www.sultanandthesaintfilm.com/education/timeline-major-events-crusades/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[1FinickyOne]

On 7/18/2025 at 7:56 AM, save the frogs said:

In Ireland, they blocked a Muslim protest because the Muslims use what the locals consider a sacred site for protests, giving haircuts outside the place. 

 

 

wearing jackets in July - must be cold there...

 

Trouble, oh, trouble, set me free
I have seen your face and it's too much, too much for me
Trouble, oh, trouble, can't you see?
You're eatin' my heart away and there's nothing much left of me - Cat Stevens 

[Cameroni]

When I saw Rick Stein laud a Welsh vegetarian influencer I did feel the urge to sharpen my sword.

[proton]

Rise up you slaves

[FlorC]

On 7/18/2025 at 9:26 AM, JonnyF said:

If the political elites keep letting down the citizens then I fear the worst.

 

The people of Europe have been extremely patient, but when they feel like they cannot change things via the ballot box, that they are not being listened to, they are inclined to take things into their own hands. The authorities know this which is why they are crushing dissent so aggressively, with multiple year sentences handed out simply for social media posts.

 

It's a pressure cooker and they are doing their best to keep the lid on it. Unfortunately, they also continue to increase the heat. I believe this is unwise.

 

Let's hope they wake up and read the room before we see any more worrying scenes like we've seen lately in Ireland, Britain, Spain etc. This needs to be fixed with robust immigration policies and border control, not violence. 

They've read the room but keep up up with the replacement agenda.

 worrying scenes JonnyF ?  More like scenes of hope.

 

This cannot be fixed with robust immigration policies and border control. That ship has sailed.

Remigration , most likely with violence.

 

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

6 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

The point is that your sequencing and descriptions are all over the place.

Historial non-woke reference?? Hey - I know google 'Crusades'

 

The Crusades were a series of religious wars, primarily between European Christians and Muslims, focused on reclaiming the Holy Land and other territories. These campaigns, initiated by the Papacy, aimed to regain control of sacred sites like Jerusalem from Muslim rule. 

 

Part 2 - coming soon to a Europe near you.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

Detailed timeline in here:\

https://www.sultanandthesaintfilm.com/education/timeline-major-events-crusades/

good

Mostly woke revision of history as taught in woke schools. Some truth - but a lot of PC BS aimed at appeasement and not causing offence. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

wearing jackets in July - must be cold there...

 

Trouble, oh, trouble, set me free
I have seen your face and it's too much, too much for me
Trouble, oh, trouble, can't you see?
You're eatin' my heart away and there's nothing much left of me - Cat Stevens 

Watching the Open (biggest Golf event) in Nth Ireland and they have done several 'blurbs' about the history of the Irish people and the country's past.  Funny - not one mention of the many thousands of Muslim invaders that have illegally entered the country - nor all the protest marches.

 

IMO it will start when they burn down and destroy the Mosques. Muslims are not a 'People' they are a religious cult who at its core is a conquering violent religious army. If you remove their ability to perform and do what is required under their religion (as was done a long time ago in Europe) they will leave. They are not a People - they will never change or adapt or integrate - they are a Religious cult. 

 

There could we be a civil war - and like many in the past - it will be based on Religion. Islam and Christianity cannot live side by side - in fact Islam cannot live side by side with any other Religion - in fact they cannot live peacefully side by side with other Islamic Sects.  Christianity can live side by side with Buddhism, Hindusim, and many other beliefs. 

 

1000 years ago Christians were not tolerant or accepting - our history is of the Church running the State - but that changed and we have 'civilised'. Islam is not yet civilised and the Church rules like it did 1000 years ago.  IMO force them back to Arab lands and leave them alone, until they have civilised and will accept living with and tolerate other Religions. Not asking they accept beliefs, but they need to accept the customs and values and laws of others - starting with Israel. When they do that and control their own violent sects (like we did) then invite them to enter Europe again - in small manageable numbers.   

[ronnie50]

If you mean will there be civil war within the EU over immigration, then no. Country-specific protests and violent outbursts among various groups will continue though as ultra-right-wing groups play the race card to wind up like-minded xenophobes looking for a scapegoat to their own miserable existence. Southern European countries are always in endless chaos caused by corruption and shaky governments and shady politicians, so they're an easy playground. Northern European countries will just have more protest demos, but little else.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Mostly woke revision of history as taught in woke schools. Some truth - but a lot of PC BS aimed at appeasement and not causing offence. 

 

Not really. The story covers just a small chapter of the time but I think the timeline is as accurate as any.  

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

If you mean will there be civil war within the EU over immigration, then no. Country-specific protests and violent outbursts among various groups will continue though as ultra-right-wing groups play the race card to wind up like-minded xenophobes looking for a scapegoat to their own miserable existence. Southern European countries are always in endless chaos caused by corruption and shaky governments and shady politicians, so they're an easy playground. Northern European countries will just have more protest demos, but little else.

 

Well I actually wish you were right but I don't think so.

[Magictoad]

On 7/18/2025 at 5:16 AM, MicroB said:

 

The Crusades lasted between 1095 to 1291. The conflict was carried out in the Levant and Holy Land, so your allegation that it took part in Europe is wilfully incorrect.

 

The Province of the Umayyad Caliphate was first established in 711. The Emirate of Grenada fell in 1492, a fact exposing your blatant lies and hoaxes. The Ottomans appeared in Europe around 1350. Ottoman rule in parts of Europe pretty much existed until the 1920s. Again, you are talking complete nonsense.

 

Either you have complete ignorance of European history, or you are posting on the forum deliberate falsehood, to stir up trouble and to troll, I assume for racist reasons.

Hey..calm down. Don't take it personally.  It's more likely he's not as smart as you; I'm certainly not and I've lived out there for years in Libya,  Kuwait,  Saudi and also spent time in Kashmir & Pakistan & Afghanistan & Turkey & Morroco & Tunisia and have given a lot of thoughts and consideration to the crusades but I don't know all that you know. I know more about the Arab side of things. Cheers.

[PingRoundTheWorld]

On 7/17/2025 at 5:50 PM, save the frogs said:

This guy is predicting Civil War in Europe due to the mass immgration. 

I could've told you that a decade ago. As soon as they started allowing the hordes in they've sealed their fate to need to take action to expel them in the future. It's just a matter of time really.

[boloaf]

On 7/18/2025 at 9:37 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Angry expats in Thailand ready to go back home to serve on the front lines.

 

 

A lot of the patriots on here have already served their country on active duty, keeping it free to produce the gobby lefty posters on here who verbally support their homelands being invaded.

[brewsterbudgen]

2 minutes ago, boloaf said:

A lot of the patriots on here have already served their country on active duty, keeping it free to produce the gobby lefty posters on here who verbally support their homelands being invaded.

Yes, free speech was and is worth fighting for.

[nauseus]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:11 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

What goodies?

 

The hyper wealthy are already taking all of the wealth, stripping public services and national assets to stuff into their own back pockets.

 

Getting the masses to blame immigrants while the rich make off like bandits is a master play, works almost every time.

 

So where and when was the last time?

[nauseus]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:13 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

Indeed.  People need to wake up to the threat from far right extremists.  Learn from history!

 

Which lesson?

[nauseus]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:30 AM, actonion said:

Taking the Wars across Muslim Countries to Europe...

 

What wars?

[actonion]

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

What wars?

How about Israel, Iraq, Afganistan, Palestine  not ....including Ukraine Russia ...  or maybe u been a kip

[newbee2022]

On 7/17/2025 at 9:50 PM, save the frogs said:

Not too much talk about Europe on here. 

 

Trump gets all the attention. 

 

There was chaos in Spain as illegal migrants attacked an elderly spanish man. And locals took to the streets. 

 

This guy is predicting Civil War in Europe due to the mass immgration. 

 

 

You would have a civil war more likely on Mallorca/Spain than in other parts of Europe. Expensive properties/rent and toooo many tourists/new residents = not immigrants

[nauseus]

25 minutes ago, actonion said:

How about Israel, Iraq, Afganistan, Palestine  not ....including Ukraine Russia ...  or maybe u been a kip

 

These seem to be mostly still in place. Wakey wakey.

[actonion]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

These seem to be mostly still in place. Wakey wakey.

yes , so why ask what wars?  better u go back to bed

[KhunLA]

Wow .. say it's not so

... civil war in EU

... civil war in US is off now, since never happened in January, maybe after mid terms 

... war with Iran

... war with CN

... war with RU

... oh hell, WW3 again again and again.

... eco disasters taking the back seat of late along with the next pandemic.

 

Maybe some folks are finally starting to think for themselves.  Nah, that will never happen.   Wishful thinking.

 

Same revolving BS we heard since I left high school, the past 50+ years, before, during and after every election cycle, some crisis, world disrupting or end of days, just around the corner.

 

Have to ponder my underground bunker construction when the dog takes me for my morning walk.