Presidents are immune from prosecution. End of story.

Military Tribunal and keep it far away from the DC Bastion of 96% they/them,

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, I wouldn't say "zero". 

 

As has been pointed out above already, the immunity for presidents only covers acts done in their official capacity. Anything manifestly outside their official capacity could result in prosecution.

 

Therefore, is faking Russian interference with manufactured evidence done in "official capacity" or outside it, is the question.

 

Granted, Obama will have  legs to his defence, which will be official capacity, and the chances of conviction are low, but zero chance seems a bit extreme.

Nobody is above the law

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 
Just like stating the Epstein Files are on my desk and then saying they don’t exist.

 

 

Epstein, was prosecuted more than once and so was Maxwell, try to keep up, maybe wake up too. Whats your problem?

1 hour ago, StandardIssue said:

 

HaHa Fuks News: The News That You Want to Believe hahahah

Maybe you prefer this one, hows that for "you want to Believe hahaha"

The truth hurts haters, huh hater!

 

 

The old days of Sara Huckerby Sanders crying at the Press briefings cause of Cnn Jim Acosta 

 relentless  BS attacking have been revenged,

Karoline & Tulsi  embarrassed the lefty news press corp repeatedly .

 

 

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

The old days of Sara Huckerby Sanders crying at the Press briefings cause of Cnn Jim Acosta 

 relentless  BS attacking have been revenged,

Karoline & Tulsi  embarrassed the lefty news press corp repeatedly .

 

 

xCommittee member Chavitz nearly chanted lock him up, he was so happy.

10 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And yet the Muller report says that Russia did interfere but he punted it to congress rather than referring it for prosecution. This is going nowhere and there will be no charges because the lawyers will not sign a frivolous action.

Oh, wait and see if / when Clapper folds first. The DOJ & FBI is investigating the mob, that being Clapper, Comey, Brennan, Obama. Trumps got this, as usual, under strict control as the deep state squirms. awesome.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

No, not even close. They Obama's admin) ignored the original Intel assessments in a "PDB" on Dec 8 2016 and Obama ordered his DNI and CIA to create a NEW and fake/false Russian interference hoax to sell to America to go after trump to overthrow his presidency. The evidence is clear and overwhelming with more to come.

 

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The usual MAGA confusion tactics for the gullible! There was no claim that Russia hacked votes, so there's no contradiction! 🤣

 

Gabbard’s claim relies heavily on an alleged contradiction between a Jan. 6, 2017, intelligence assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign” in an attempt to help elect Donald Trump and earlier intelligence assessments that concluded Russia did not successfully use cyberattacks on election infrastructure in the 2016 election. But those two assessments are not in contradiction.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

 

24 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And yet the Muller report says that Russia did interfere but he punted it to congress rather than referring it for prosecution. This is going nowhere and there will be no charges because the lawyers will not sign a frivolous action.

You are confused as usual. Interfere, MANY interfere in US election as did the Russians to no known net tangible benefit.  Obama and his mobster intel team cooked actual intel data reports into a false fake one to predicate their scheme to overthrow Trump.  Thats treason all the way. And the facts ands evidence uncovered by Gabbard's ODNI bear that out.

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

You are confused as usual. Interfere, MANY interfere in US election as did the Russians to no known net tangible benefit.  Obama and his mobster intel team cooked actual intel data reports into a false fake one to predicate their scheme to overthrow Trump.  Thats treason all the way. And the facts ands evidence uncovered by Gabbard's ODNI bear that out.

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-

 

 

 

Stone and Manafort clearly colluded with Russia on behalf of the mobster in chief. There is no Russian hoax.

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1 hour ago, illisdean said:

These same deep staters refused to turn over, declassify, leak, reveal etc ANYTHING Epstein related to Trump EVER pre-biden, during Bidens admin, especially when their coordinated efforts to imprison, bankrupt, assassinate Trump all failed to stop him and prevent his 2024 election victory. Why, if there is something incriminating Trump and the Epstein democratic pedophile empire, was it not used against Trump?  Easy, obvious answer is there is nothing incriminating Trump to the democrat pedophile obsession. NOTHING!

 

Attempting to tie Trump to the democrat pedophile colony is one of the go-to talking points & Trump hating narratives used by the feckless and desperate democrats, same as the RUSSIA Trump collusion hoax and look at how thats blown up in the deep states face now. Trump is playing and outclassing the moronic democrats at every step and has more chess moves than Fisher and Kasparov combined. Democrats are fence post DUMB and they proudly display it 24/7.

There was no use to search for anything as the opportunities have been provided by Trump himself or his aids. Ex.

Attempt to overturn elections: the assault of the Capitol, find me 11,700 votes, fake electors lists. 

MAL: the NARA contacted the DOJ because Trump refused to give back Presidential records.

Payment to "Stormy" : Trump was mentioned by Cohen during his trial about campaign finance fraud.

Good.  Let him have his day in court.  And during the interim, I hope he, Clapper, Brennen, Comey and the others involvedd in the sebversion of the democratic process and then the attempted soft-coup, remember that it was THEY who opened the lid of the Lawfare Genie's sealed bottle and attempted to let it loose on Presidential Candidate Trump and then President Trump. 

 MAGA Lover!!!

  That couldn't be further from the truth. I'm jJust an old school, conservative, classic-liberal who detests war, corruption, and the elite's total disregard for the laws that the rest of us are expected to abide.  I'm pretty sure that Trump was involved in exactly what Epstein and Maxwell were engaged in, and as such, I hope that it is investigated - like this attempt to subvert the Democratic processes by Obama and his administration - and if anything is found, i hope he too has his day in court.  I don't like either side as they all are corrupt.

But like I said - I detest corruption - and unfortunately the world we live in is run by the corrupt and the corruptible who will hide the sins of their enemies in order to hide their own malfeasance. I doubt if anything will come of the Epstein affair nor the fabrication of a Russia hoax fabricated in order to attempt a soft-coup against a sitting US president.  Both sides will in the end cover up evidence and make it all disappear.  That's what those in power do: project corruption for their own benefit. 

It's a big club and you ain't in it.
-George Carlin

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

Maybe you prefer this one, hows that for "you want to Believe hahaha"

The truth hurts haters, huh hater!

 

 

 

Since Twitter seems to be your only source of "news" why don't you ask Grok about this whole Gabbard s*** show, buddy?

 

Musk's AI Chatbot Grok Tells X User That Trump's New Obama Probe Is Baseless Attempt to 'Distract from Epstein File Scrutiny'

https://people.com/grok-calls-trumps-obama-probe-baseless-attempt-distract-from-epstein-11777082

 

PS. "huh hater!" Never seen anyone stutter while writing before.😂

 

 

28 minutes ago, illisdean said:

You are confused as usual. Interfere, MANY interfere in US election as did the Russians to no known net tangible benefit.  Obama and his mobster intel team cooked actual intel data reports into a false fake one to predicate their scheme to overthrow Trump.  Thats treason all the way. And the facts ands evidence uncovered by Gabbard's ODNI bear that out.

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-

 

 

 

More of the lame confusion tactics for the gullible and uninformed.

 

There was no claim of election infrastructure (voting machines) being hacked! That's ridiculous! 🤣

 

Tulsi the DNI once labeled a Russian asset by Hillary,

is sending all declassified docs  for criminal referral

to the author of SPYGATE and now deputy director of the

FBI. 

Spygate's boss is the head of the FBI ,which was the 

author of Government Gangsters .

 

Let that sink in ladies.

Just now, riclag said:

Tulsi the DNI once labeled a Russian asset by Hillary,

is sending all declassified docs  for criminal referral

to the author of SPYGATE and now deputy director of the

FBI. 

Spygate's boss is the head of the FBI ,which was the 

author of Government Gangsters .

 

Let that sink in ladies.

 

 

Feeling like a beach ball on the Dead sea.....nothing.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

The old days of Sara Huckerby Sanders crying at the Press briefings cause of Cnn Jim Acosta 

 relentless  BS attacking have been revenged,

Karoline & Tulsi  embarrassed the lefty news press corp repeatedly .

 

 

 

 

I wonder where Huckerby's $20,000 lectern is stored now?

 

 

Legal and Intelligence Experts

 

Presidential Immunity: Legal analysts point to Trump v. United States, a Supreme Court ruling that may well shield Obama from prosecution. This would be a major hurdle for any DOJ case.

 

Criminal Referral ≠ Prosecution: Experts emphasize that a criminal referral is not a formal charge. It simply recommends investigation. The DOJ is under no obligation to act on it.

 

Senate Intelligence Committee Findings: A bipartisan 2020 report led by then-Senator Marco Rubio affirmed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to benefit Trump. It supported the original intelligence assessment that Gabbard now disputes.

 

Distilled from various A1s in an attempt to give a reasoned overview of the current situation.

 

 

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

Presidents are immune from prosecution. End of story.

Wrong! It has already been talked about and researched and presidents are only immune to decisions and actions made in their primary duty as the president. they are not immune to actions they did that was not in the capacity of their duty as president. 

34 minutes ago, connda said:

But like I said - I detest corruption - and unfortunately the world we live in is run by the corrupt and the corruptible who will hide the sins of their enemies in order to hide their own malfeasance. I doubt if anything will come of the Epstein affair nor the fabrication of a Russia hoax fabricated in order to attempt a soft-coup against a sitting US president.  Both sides will in the end cover up evidence and make it all disappear.  That's what those in power do: project corruption for their own benefit.

I agree with this. It all comes down to real hard evidence and facts. Without it, they will walk away unscathed and this Epstein and Obama thing will be swept under the table or a fall guy will take the blame for it all. 

One thing i am surprised the media is not saying anything about. Was Biden in on this scandal as well given that he was the VP and would also be an active participant in these things. 

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

First: Not to herself she isn't, and that was who was being discussed.

 

 Second: Sure.....just need the files, videos, drives that........

 

don't exist,

 

oh, they do exist,

 

oh, but there's nothing on them,

 

oh, Obama had them created,

 

oh, there just a Dem hoax

 

oh, they do exist, but the Dems have inserted things to frame Trump

 

 

What a farce....he is as guilty as hell

 

 

 

I regard you as fundamentally a fair guy. 

 

That post disgraces you. 

13 minutes ago, thesetat said:

I agree with this. It all comes down to real hard evidence and facts. Without it, they will walk away unscathed and this Epstein and Obama thing will be swept under the table or a fall guy will take the blame for it all. 

One thing i am surprised the media is not saying anything about. Was Biden in on this scandal as well given that he was the VP and would also be an active participant in these things. 

Patience ,The good guys just exposed  the chief of  Dem's Brand.

Much more Dem deception to come, Whistleblowers & troves of declassified docs.

8 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

I regard you as fundamentally a fair guy. 

 

That post disgraces you. 

 

 

I regard you as fundamentally a fair guy. 

 

I resent that accusation.

 

 

 

33 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Wrong! It has already been talked about and researched and presidents are only immune to decisions and actions made in their primary duty as the president. they are not immune to actions they did that was not in the capacity of their duty as president. 

And the following investigations, the Mueller and GOP-led Senate Committee investigations, have proven Russian intereference! 🤣

 

And before you cited Gabbard, let me remind that it was not claimed that Russia hacked the voting infrastructures. Russia's intereference used other means.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

12 hours ago, theblether said:

Zero chance of Obama going to jail. Also unlikely he'll be charged. But someone is going down. This hoax was appalling from the beginning and it's so ingrained into some Democrat brains that it will never be accepted as a hoax. 

 

Then we'll read Dems saying "yes, but the Senate intelligence committee said....." and they'll omit that the Senate was lied to by the intelligence agencies. 

 

It's the political cluster**** of all time, worse than Watergate. 

There was no hoax. It was not claimed that Russia hacked the voting infrastructures and altered the votes! 🤣

 

"Gabbard’s claim relies heavily on an alleged contradiction between a Jan. 6, 2017, intelligence assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign” in an attempt to help elect Donald Trump and earlier intelligence assessments that concluded Russia did not successfully use cyberattacks on election infrastructure in the 2016 election. But those two assessments are not in contradiction."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

3 hours ago, Purdey said:

Presidents are immune from prosecution. End of story.

 

How quickly the lefties change tack.  Not that long ago, they claimed that ruling would be the doom of democracy.

 

Sadly for Obama, he apparently kept up the shenanigans after he left office...

 

5 hours ago, illisdean said:

You must be brainwashed, and resident in a cave somewhere with only MSNBC

And you sir must be short of a few brain cells if you think that is the case. MSNBC, CNN and FOX all as bad as each other. Look for neutral news sources and don't blinker your vision.

1 hour ago, candide said:

There was no hoax. It was not claimed that Russia hacked the voting infrastructures and altered the votes! 🤣

 

"Gabbard’s claim relies heavily on an alleged contradiction between a Jan. 6, 2017, intelligence assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign” in an attempt to help elect Donald Trump and earlier intelligence assessments that concluded Russia did not successfully use cyberattacks on election infrastructure in the 2016 election. But those two assessments are not in contradiction."

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/07/gabbards-misleading-coup-claim/

 

It was and still is a hoax. 

 

The fact you cannot accept that is an act of low IQ paucity