For those who eat up the propaganda and then use propaganda as though it's the truth.  Realize that the world is losing its patience for genocide and crimes against humanity like constructing a siege and starving a population is a war crime, specifically, starvation as a method of warfare is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions (Additional Protocol I, Article 54) and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Article 8(2)(b)(xxv)). Denial CAN be eventually be prosecuted as complicity. There are historical precedents. It seems the owners of main-steam media are waking up to that fact, hopefully operators of social media will follow suit. It won't be a good thing to end up on the wrong side of history and outfits like the New York Times, The Guardian, and BBC, and Israel's own Haartz understand this.

News agencies now reporting on the siege and starvation in Gaza:

• The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/24/world/middleeast/gaza-starvation.html
• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/25/israel-deflect-blame-starvation-gaza-hunger
• BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8j1j7n72ywo]

Current propaganda:

• David Mencer, Israeli Government Spokesman, July 24, 2025: "There is no famine in Gaza - there is a famine of the truth."
• Itamar Ben Gvir, National Security Minister, July 25, 2025: "In reality, there is no famine in Gaza. If they were hungry, they would have returned the hostages."

And...

• Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, July 21, 2025: "Hamas steals the food."
• Netanyahu, July 22, 2025: "We're trying to let the food in, and guess what happens when we let them in? Hamas steals the food, takes a good chunk for itself, they jack up the prices..."
• Netanyahu, July 23, 2025: "We’re not starving Gaza. Hamas is stealing the food."

So - Hamas is stealing all of the food arriving in Gaza according to Netanyahu.

Opps!  That one just got debunked.  The rest need to be debunked as forced starvation is a crime against humanity.
 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-07-26/ty-article/idf-officials-say-no-evidence-hama

Are you sure there’s no conflation in this report?

 

”WASHINGTON — An internal US government analysis has found no evidence of systematic theft by the Hamas terror group of US-funded humanitarian supplies, challenging the main rationale that Israel and the US give for backing a new armed private aid operation.

The analysis was conducted by a bureau within the US Agency for International Development and completed in late June. It examined 156 incidents of theft or loss of US-funded supplies reported by USAID partner organizations between October 2023 and May.

It found “no reports alleging Hamas” benefited from US-funded supplies, according to a slide presentation of the findings seen by Reuters.

The analysis was unable to attribute most instances of theft to a particular actor, although it noted that because Palestinians who receive aid cannot be vetted, US-funded supplies might have been going to Hamas nonetheless.

A State Department spokesperson disputed the findings, saying there is video evidence of Hamas looting aid, but provided no such videos. The spokesperson also accused traditional humanitarian groups of covering up “aid corruption.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/usaid-finds-no-proof-hamas-systematically-loots-aid-state-department-idf-push-back/

 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-rabbis-demand-israel-stop-using-starvation-as-a-weapon-of-war/

Comparisons from main-stream outlets are stating the obvious between the ghettos of WW2 and the present.  Same concept: Surround a people, block them in, cut off food and water.  Happened over 80 years ago. Think humankind learned a lesson?  Guess not.  

 

 

https://www.democracynow.org/2025/7/24/from_the_warsaw_ghetto_to_gaza

5 minutes ago, connda said:

Comparisons from main-stream outlets are stating the obvious between the ghettos of WW2 and the present.  Same concept: Surround a people, block them in, cut off food and water.  Happened over 80 years ago. Think humankind learned a lesson?  Guess not.  

 

 

https://www.democracynow.org/2025/7/24/from_the_warsaw_ghetto_to_gaza

 

   Big difference is that the Palestinians  could end the war by releasing the Israeli hostages .

   Jews in Warsaw didn't have that opportunity 

Gangs and merchants sell food aid in Gaza, where Israel’s offensive has shattered security

 

For much of the war, U.N. agencies were able to safely deliver aid, despite Israeli restrictions and occasional attacks and theft. Hamas-led police guarded convoys and went after suspected looters and merchants who resold aid.

 

That all changed in March, when Israel ended the ceasefire and halted all imports, including food. Israel seized large parts of Gaza in what it said was a tactic to pressure Hamas into releasing hostages abducted in its Oct. 7, 2023, attack that ignited the war.

 

As the Hamas-run police vanished from areas under Israeli control, local tribes and gangs — some of which Israel says it supports — took over, residents say.

 

Gangs and merchants sell food aid in Gaza, where Israel’s offensive has shattered security

 

 

The UN argues that the only solution is a ceasefire, Israel fully lift the blockade and flood Gaza with food. That would reduce the incentive for looting by guaranteeing there is enough food for the population and hence drive down prices.

 

 

There is no official evidence of Hamas being shown deliberatly stealing trucks laden with food. All we have seen is Hundreds of Trucks waiting to be sent into Gaza. Whats stopping them is the question we should be asking.

On 7/28/2025 at 7:30 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Big difference is that the Palestinians  could end the war by releasing the Israeli hostages .

   Jews in Warsaw didn't have that opportunity 

Except Israel’s war objectives have no been extended to interning the Palestinians in a Concentration Camp, from which they will not be permitted to leave and to disown the Palestinians if their land.

 

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Except Israel’s war objectives have no been extended to interning the Palestinians in a Concentration Camp, from which they will not be permitted to leave and to disown the Palestinians if their land.

 

 

   Palestinians could have left Gaza through the Egyptian border , they could have left if they wanted to .

   Gazians are NOT Israeli citizens and they have no right to enter the Sovereign  Nation of Israel . 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians could have left Gaza through the Egyptian border , they could have left if they wanted to .

   Gazians are NOT Israeli citizens and they have no right to enter the Sovereign  Nation of Israel . 

Gaza is the home of the Palestinians of Gaza, they have no other home.

 

Gaza is not part of Israel, Palestinians in Gaza are living in their home, nothing at all to do with the ‘Sovereign Nation of Israel’.

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Gaza is the home of the Palestinians of Gaza, they have no other home.

 

Gaza is not part of Israel, Palestinians in Gaza are living in their home, nothing at all to do with the ‘Sovereign Nation of Israel’.

 

   They can move and go and live somewhere else.

Go elsewhere and make a new Country , just like the Jews who fled your favorite camps did in 1945

On 7/28/2025 at 4:56 AM, connda said:

So - Hamas is stealing all of the food arriving in Gaza according to Netanyahu.

Opps!  That one just got debunked. 

 

   Well no . 

Armed militias are stealing the food aid in Gaza , there's just no proof that it was Hamas .

   Could have been the Tooting Popular Front who were stealing the food aid in Gaza ?

22 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They can move and go and live somewhere else.

Go elsewhere and make a new Country , just like the Jews who fled your favorite camps did in 1945

Why should they go live anywhere else, Gaza is their home.

 

I don’t have any favorite camps.

 

But to remind you, those Nazi concentration camps where preceded by the promotion of voluntary emigration and when that didn’t get the desired result, forced deportations, after which the Genocide started.

 

Thank you for reminding me of the part voluntary deportations played in that genocide.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

But to remind you, those Nazi concentration camps where preceded by the promotion of voluntary emigration and when that didn’t get the desired result, forced deportations, after which the Genocide started.

 

 

   So the final solution would be to let the Gazians leave Gaza and go and live somewhere else , to escape apartheid, genocide, concentration camps and slavery 

50 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So the final solution would be to let the Gazians leave Gaza and go and live somewhere else , to escape apartheid, genocide, concentration camps and slavery 

 

So is this you finally admitting that Israel is committing apartheid, genocide, concentration camps and slavery in Gaza?

2 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

So is this you finally admitting that Israel is committing apartheid, genocide, concentration camps and slavery in Gaza?

 

   It does get tedious and monotonous discussing whether its a genocide or not . 

  Better just to agree with it and move on and further the discussion , rather than getting stuck on the same point 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So the final solution would be to let the Gazians leave Gaza and go and live somewhere else , to escape apartheid, genocide, concentration camps and slavery 

I long suspected you had a final solution in mind.

 

I would say thank you for confirming my suspicions, but it’s nothing to be thankful for.

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It does get tedious and monotonous discussing whether its a genocide or not . 

  Better just to agree with it and move on and further the discussion , rather than getting stuck on the same point 

Now that you’ve admitted it what’s to discuss?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I long suspected you had a final solution in mind.

 

I would say thank you for confirming my suspicions, but it’s nothing to be thankful for.

 

  I am joining in with the Nazi references 

I was feeling a bit left out 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Now that you’ve admitted it what’s to discuss?

 

   Hamas war crimes and how they need to be prosecuted for killing babies and taking hostages and sexual crimes  ?

18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas war crimes and how they need to be prosecuted for killing babies and taking hostages and sexual crimes  ?

I’m fully supportive of HAMAS being held accountable for the heinous terrorism attack they planned and executed against innocent Israeli citizens.

 

I do not support Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians to achieve that end.

 

But I’ve explained that to you many times.

 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It does get tedious and monotonous discussing whether its a genocide or not . 

  Better just to agree with it and move on and further the discussion , rather than getting stuck on the same point 

Just wondering if you still say starvation is fake and they are all actually well fed?

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m fully supportive of HAMAS being held accountable for the heinous terrorism attack they planned and executed against innocent Israeli citizens.

 

I do not support Israel slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians to achieve that end.

 

 

   How else can Hamas be bought to justice ?

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   How else can Hamas be bought to justice ?

I don’t care, so long as it’s not by the mass slaughter of innocent civilians by the IDF.

 

Something you have not once criticized