USA US Welcomes Qatari Gift: Fiery Debate Over New Air Force One

[thesetat]

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is actually about the US government accepting the donation, nothing has been gifted to Trump personally.    Just chew on that for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste?

They wil not like it because it does not go with their anti trump rhetoric. Here is a link to show you are correct. 

Qatari plane that could be new Air Force One will be ‘unconditional’ gift to the Pentagon, agreement says

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/27/politics/qatar-air-force-one-gift-agreement

 

[DezLez]

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Gawd, so much ignorance.  The plane has been donated to the US, not to Trump who currently represents the State, that's all, so anyone will be able to use it.   The Trump Library, as all Presidential libraries, are state-controlled and owned entities, not personal assets.

NOT true;

In May 2017, it was announced that the Barack Obama Presidential Center, the planned location of the presidential library of Barack Obama, would not be part of the NARA system, making Obama the first president since Calvin Coolidge not to have a federally owned facility.

[Liverpool Lou]

16 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Tell that to the white house;

as they said in the OP;

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."...that is owned by the State, not Trump.

[Hummin]

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is actually about the US government accepting the donation, nothing has been gifted to Trump personally.    Just chew on that for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste?

 

I didn't expect anything more or less from you! 

 

How it tastes? Well I'm witness all Europeans leaders suck D trying to feed his ego

 

Not for long I hope

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, DezLez said:

In which case why does the OP state this;

"Legal experts are divided on whether accepting the plane breaches constitutional rules, which prohibit officials from taking gifts from foreign governments without Congressional consent."

This shows that they consider it to be a gift is to Trump and not to the US!

No, it does not, all it shows is that some people have different opinions about the donation, not that it is considered a gift to Trump...

"Legal experts are divided..."

[thesetat]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

I didn't expect anything more or less from you! 

 

How it tastes? Well I'm witness all Europeans leaders suck D trying to feed his ego

 

Not for long I hope

I do not see how they took the time to get their mouths off of the immigrants peckers long enough to put it on Trumps? 

[DezLez]

2 minutes ago, thesetat said:

They wil not like it because it does not go with their anti trump rhetoric. Here is a link to show you are correct. 

Qatari plane that could be new Air Force One will be ‘unconditional’ gift to the Pentagon, agreement says

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/27/politics/qatar-air-force-one-gift-agreement

 

So we now have two conflicting stories with the OP and the quote above.

The quote above is the more realistic. 

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

But the statements that he made about keeping the jet for his personal use once his presidency is finished were pretty strange at best, and highly corrupt at worst. 

Where has he been quoted as claiming that? 

[Liverpool Lou]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is actually about the US government accepting the donation, nothing has been gifted to Trump personally.    Just chew on that for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste?

 

I didn't expect anything more or less from you! 

Yes, accuracy stings a bit, doesn't it!

[Hummin]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, accuracy stings a bit, doesn't it!

Well, I'm confident your reputation is far above everyone else her 😁

 

I guess for some of you guys it is personal, not so much for me, I'm not right wing or left wing, so ? 

 

I see and evaluate what's going on, and the stupidity will continue no matter what my opinion is. 

 

It is what it is, a frickin Monthly Python show, and you are part of it. A main character here at ASEAN Now, so, why should I feel anything, Im not connected the same way. 

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, accuracy stings a bit, doesn't it!

Well, I'm confident your reputation is far above everyone else her 😁

It is certainly way above that of many who, clearly, cannot read most of the time.

[Wake Up1]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

B0llocks, it does not become his at the end of his term.

<deleted>. It becomes the property of his presidential library that he 100 percent controls so in essence his private plane for any use he desires. One thing about MAGA is they are a bunch of liars lead by the king of lies. 

[Wake Up1]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where has he been quoted as claiming that? 

Watch something other than the MAGA channel and you will be more informed on the truth. 

[Wake Up1]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."...that is owned by the State, not Trump.

You are kidding if you think Trump will not use it as his personal plane. You are ignoring reality. 

[newnative]

6 hours ago, thesetat said:

Not a very intelligent thing to comment here.. Am surprised you got the likes for it even one of them. The plane was not given to Trump. Any fix they make will be to add the security and advanced communications as well as aircraft deterrents and a escape bubble.  This plane (not being Trumps as you claim only because you are a Trump-hater) will belong to the next 5 or 6 presidents. How can you make such a biased comment knowing that if a Dem is voted in next year he will be using this plane? 

    Wow, maybe a new first.  Every single sentence incorrect--especially the last one--there is no presidential election 'next year' so no 'Dem' will be using the plane.  Nor, will anyone else as it will take just as long to spend that billion with a 'b' to make it suitable as AF1 as it has taken for the other two planes now being readied.  As I said in my post, utter madness.

[newnative]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

B0llocks, it does not become his at the end of his term.

It goes to his library--what's the difference?  Billion dollars spent to park the thing once it's finished--likely even Trump won't actually fly much in it as prez.  Utter madness.  

[newnative]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

If it's not completed by the end of his term he won't get to use it, regardless of his age or fitness.  You seem to think that it is his!

    You're just deflecting with all your posts.  The facts:

1. The US already has two new Air Force Ones being readied--which have cost billions.  There is absolutely no need for this plane.  That is the biggest and undisputed fact. Total and complete waste of a billion dollars solely for Trump's massive ego.

2.  This NOT 'free' gift to Trump, because of gift rules and ethical questions raised, has been temporariy transferred to the US military--which is also getting stuck paying the billion dollars to make it ready to be AF1.  Remember--no need--two Boeing planes already being readied.

3. When the gift plane is finally done and the needless billion dollars spent, likely near the end of Trump's term if it takes as long as the other 2 planes, the plane will be transferred to the Trump library as a billion dollar bauble for the MAGA crowd to gawk at.

    Since this is the case, why not just cancel all the security upgrades and let Trump loose on the interior to tack on, at his expense, his tacky gold junk everywhere.  Then, inexpensively repaint the exterior in the awful livery Trump likes and mothball it until the Trump library is ready for it.  Save us a cool billion with the same end result.

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, newnative said:

18 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

B0llocks, it does not become his at the end of his term.

It goes to his library--what's the difference? 

The difference is that the library belongs to the people, the state, not Trump.

[Will B Good]

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The difference is that the library belongs to the people, the state, not Trump.

 

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The difference is that the library belongs to the people, the state, not Trump.

 

Only the digital library belongs to the 'people'.

 

The physical library 'to be', will be managed by Trump's private foundation......Eric Trump is a board member along with other family friends. It is this library that will receive the Qatar plane.....and once received there are no legal restrictions on what the private foundation might decide to do with it.

[newnative]

25 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The difference is that the library belongs to the people, the state, not Trump.

    Big whoop.  Who cares--it's still a colossal waste of a billion dollars--and, likely, far more than a billion.  Boeing has been given a budget of 3.9 billion for the 2 jets they are preparing to be the new AF1s--about 2 billion each--but has spent far more than that--Simply Flying pegs the figure at 7 billion.  Absolute madness to be doing this third jet. 

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, newnative said:

29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The difference is that the library belongs to the people, the state, not Trump.

    Big whoop.  Who cares--

Those who care about facts, not lies, do.

[In Full Agreement]

On 7/29/2025 at 8:50 AM, Tug said:

Translation….we the us taxpayers are saddled with this flying whale to fix up for trump so he can take it when we are rid of him.

 

 

 

Of course he's not allowed to do that but he is skilled in deception  and untruths.

 

 

 

 

[newnative]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Those who care about facts, not lies, do.

  Some of your 'facts' appear to be suspect--see WBG's post.  But, again, you're laser-focused on what's totally not important.   What is important is the government spending at least a billion dollars--and likely far more--on something completely not needed that will end up as a hugely expensive bauble for Trump's library--and absolutely nothing more.   

[thesetat]

17 hours ago, newnative said:

    Wow, maybe a new first.  Every single sentence incorrect--especially the last one--there is no presidential election 'next year' so no 'Dem' will be using the plane.  Nor, will anyone else as it will take just as long to spend that billion with a 'b' to make it suitable as AF1 as it has taken for the other two planes now being readied.  As I said in my post, utter madness.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/27/politics/qatar-air-force-one-gift-agreement

Who do you think knows more? BBC who uses lies or hides facts like using the son of a terrorist to promote the hardship in that country? Or CNN who is more leaning to the left?

[jerrymahoney]

Trump says Air Force One gifted by Qatar could be ready by February

 

President Trump said he could be flying on the new Air Force One, a retrofitted plane that was gifted by Qatar, as early as February.

 

He said he would be flying on the plane “much sooner” than the other planes being built by Boeing to serve as presidential aircraft.

 

“Now, they’re not normal 747’s. They have a lot of things on them that another plane wouldn’t have, but we’ll get this one a year-and-a-half, two years earlier,” Mr. Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he flew back to Washington from Scotland.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jul/29/trump-says-air-force-one-gifted-qatar-could-ready-february/

 

As President, the President tells the Air Force when the plane is ready and not v.v.

[josephbloggs]

10 minutes ago, thesetat said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/27/politics/qatar-air-force-one-gift-agreement

Who do you think knows more? BBC who uses lies or hides facts like using the son of a terrorist to promote the hardship in that country? Or CNN who is more leaning to the left?

Sorry, but you're talking about the BBC using lies and hiding facts, which is you either not understanding what happened (if I am being kind), or using lies.

The BBC did not hide facts or use the "son of a terrorist". You are making that up.

They aired a documentary made by an independent production company on the grave situation in Gaza. None of the images, none of the footage, none of what was shown was "faked". It is all real. The boy who narrated it was the son of the deputy minister of agriculture Ayman al‑Yazouri who has no known links to terrorism - he is a technocrat with a scientific background and has a PhD from a British University. He also served in the UAE government in the eduction department. 

Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation. Ayman is a scholar and an educator, nobody has found any links between him and terrorism or him and senior leaders of Hamas.

Besides that the BBC had no knowledge of that at all, that is clear. As part of the vetting procedures they even asked the production company if the boy has any links to Hamas and were told "no". This is all information available in an inquiry. And as soon as they did learn of it they immediately pulled the film.  Should they have done better in the vetting than believing what they production company told them? Yes, and they have admitted this. Did they lie? No. 

You obviously believe everything you are told (if it fits your agenda) to make a ridiculous statement like the one you made. You don't have to retract it, but hopefully you read this with open eyes.  You're welcome.

[Paul Henry]

Liverpool Lou was very quick to be objectionable regarding my question calling it ridiculous.

Lou incase you are dumber than you show ? this  means that the sentence before the question mark is a QUESTION. I remember in school we were taught that there is no such thing as a ridiculus QUESTION only a ridiculus  ANSWER. This and your  dumb reply  highlights that you are probably a MAGA and as TACO says he loves the uneducated. From your unending stream of comments you like TACO know everything.

[mrwebb8825]

On 7/28/2025 at 6:58 PM, webfact said:

 

Preparations are under way to repurpose a Qatari jumbo jet as Air Force One for President Donald Trump, reports suggest. Qatar is giving the $400 million Boeing aircraft as an "unconditional" gift, with the US covering the refit expenses. Critics express concern, characterising it as a potential "bribe" from a foreign entity.

 

The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office. There are existing rules limiting officials to gifts under $480. A memorandum of understanding between Qatar and the US Department of Defence indicates the jet will be handed over "as is," with the Pentagon managing essential modifications before integration into the presidential fleet.

 

Before the jet becomes operational as Air Force One, security inspections will include checks for espionage devices. The document stresses that this donation is a bona fide gesture and refutes implications of corruption. The Qatari gift has ignited anger across the political spectrum in the US, including among Trump's conservative supporters.

 

Commentator Ben Shapiro criticised the gift on his podcast, suggesting Qatar has ulterior motives for the donation. Prominent right-wing voice Laura Loomer deemed the acceptance a potential blemish on the administration.

 

The BBC reached out to both the White House and the Pentagon for details regarding the plans.

 

The current Air Force One fleet comprises 747-200 jets in service since 1990 and some smaller 757s. Trump expressed dissatisfaction with Boeing over delays in delivering two new Air Force Ones, considering alternate options, including the Qatari jet.

 

Legal experts are divided on whether accepting the plane breaches constitutional rules, which prohibit officials from taking gifts from foreign governments without Congressional consent. The substantial value of the aircraft makes this donation extraordinary under current rules.

 

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt announced the finalisation of legal frameworks to ensure compliance with the law. Trump hinted that the aircraft might end up in his presidential library, a common repository for documents and a museum of memorabilia.

 

The retrofit of the aircraft is expected to be costly, with costs potentially soaring into hundreds of millions of dollars. Enhancements would include advanced security systems, mid-flight refuelling capability, and electromagnetic pulse protection. Defence insiders speculate funds might be redirected from the Sentinel missile programme to cover expenses.

 

The prospect of this new Air Force One continues to be controversial, with many scrutinising its implications as a significant foreign gift. The ongoing work on legal and financial aspects highlights the intricate nature of both international diplomacy and domestic politics in the debate over its acceptance.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from BBC 2025-07-29

 

 

Only the dems would be ignorant enough to turn down such a gift. Hey! Spartacus! It's not a Trojan Horse. 

President Trump accepted it as a gift to America from a country that is SOOOOO relieved they no longer have to placate a brain-dead moron and can have  a conversation with a powerful businessman.

The more I read on here the more it irks me that you lot (American expats that slam him every chance you get) will reap the same rewards as I do from the greatest President of the 21st century.

Honestly, I've little doubt many of you kicked your father for being an asshat every time you collected your allowance from him. 

[newnative]

12 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Only the dems would be ignorant enough to turn down such a gift. Hey! Spartacus! It's not a Trojan Horse. 

President Trump accepted it as a gift to America from a country that is SOOOOO relieved they no longer have to placate a brain-dead moron and can have  a conversation with a powerful businessman.

The more I read on here the more it irks me that you lot (American expats that slam him every chance you get) will reap the same rewards as I do from the greatest President of the 21st century.

Honestly, I've little doubt many of you kicked your father for being an asshat every time you collected your allowance from him. 

   A totally not needed 'gift' that's going to cost the American tax payers at least a billion dollars, and likely far more.  Any person with a working brain, and no colossal ego, would have 'turned down' this 'gift' with a polite, 'thanks, but nooooo thanks!'  

[mrwebb8825]

12 hours ago, newnative said:

   A totally not needed 'gift' that's going to cost the American tax payers at least a billion dollars, and likely far more.  Any person with a working brain, and no colossal ego, would have 'turned down' this 'gift' with a polite, 'thanks, but nooooo thanks!'  

It was free and was needed