Judges Doubt Govt. as Trump Just. Dept. Misleads & Dodges Orders

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Judges Openly Doubt Government as Justice Dept. Misleads and Dodges Orders

 

Legal experts say the actions causing concern from the bench could have a more systemic effect, eroding the healthy functioning of the courts.

 

Aug. 4, 2025

 

"... in the past several months, as members of President Trump’s Justice Department have repeatedly misled the courts, violated their orders and demonized judges who have ruled against them, some jurists have started to show an angry loss of faith in the people and the institution they once believed in most.

 

The dissolution of these traditional bonds of trust — known in legal circles as the presumption of regularity — goes well beyond judges’ use of blunt words — “egregious,” “brazen,” “lawless” — to describe the various parts of Mr. Trump’s power-grabbing policy agenda.

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While it is impossible to know for sure how deeply this distrust has set in among judges across the country, a number of judges in recent weeks have openly questioned the fundamental honesty and credibility of Justice Department lawyers in ways that would have been unthinkable only months ago.

 

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New York Times

https://archive.ph/7Xbx9

 

 

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And millions of voters are furious at the unelected activist judges for overstepping their bounds with universal injunctions, according to the SCOTUS.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

It's "justice" for sale or to achieve partisan political ends in the Trump Justice Department, and Trump's often wild-haired legal positions and schemes leave the Justice Department attorneys struggling to come up with plausible legal arguments to support Trump's views and/or they end up just making false claims to the courts, and judges are noticing!

 

As per the NYT's report:

 

"In a sweeping opinion issued in April, Judge Dale E. Ho of Federal District Court in Manhattan rejected as false the reasons the department gave for dismissing bribery charges against Mayor Eric Adams of New York. While Judge Ho ultimately agreed to throw out the charges, he took a swipe at the department’s credibility, saying it appeared as though officials had used their power in a quid pro quo with Mr. Adams to get him to support Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown in the city."

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“When the government loses credibility, you see it clearly in the reactions of other players in the legal system,” Mr. Richman said."

 

 

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

While Judge Ho ultimately agreed to throw out the charges, he took a swipe at the department’s credibility, saying it appeared as though officials had used their power in a quid pro quo with Mr. Adams to get him to support Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown in the city."

Nobody elected Judge Ho to anyhting and his remarks violate the Judicial Code of Ethics.

 

By the way, post Judge Hos actual words.

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5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

saying it appeared as though officials had used their power in a quid pro quo with Mr. Adams to get him to support Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown in the city."

 

That sure sounds like a win for the citizens of NYC.  Not so much for the illegals.  Funny how Eric Adams was a Dem hero until he spilt the beans on how much it costs to care for and feed the illegals. ($36,000 a year per head, BTW).  Then suddenly, he was under indictment.

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, impulse said:

Then suddenly, he was under indictment.

Nobody is above the law. 🙂

[SunnyinBangrak]

24 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's "justice" for sale or to achieve partisan political ends in the Trump Justice Department, and Trump's often wild-haired legal positions and schemes leave the Justice Department attorneys struggling to come up with plausible legal arguments to support Trump's views and/or they end up just making false claims to the courts, and judges are noticing!

 

As per the NYT's report:

 

"In a sweeping opinion issued in April, Judge Dale E. Ho of Federal District Court in Manhattan rejected as false the reasons the department gave for dismissing bribery charges against Mayor Eric Adams of New York. While Judge Ho ultimately agreed to throw out the charges, he took a swipe at the department’s credibility, saying it appeared as though officials had used their power in a quid pro quo with Mr. Adams to get him to support Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown in the city."

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“When the government loses credibility, you see it clearly in the reactions of other players in the legal system,” Mr. Richman said."

 

 

Sounds like you never heard of corrupt judges like Engoron or Merchan and the devastating precedent they set. Busy getting jabbed and boosted no doubt.😅

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Sounds like you never heard of corrupt judges like Engoron or Merchan and the devastating precedent they set. Busy getting jabbed and boosted no doubt.😅

If Dems do it, its protecting Democracy.

If Repubs do it, its lawfare.

 

Have you noticed a cessation of the January 6 jibes recently? The words coup and traitor and insurrection? 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

If Dems do it, its protecting Democracy.

If Repubs do it, its lawfare.

 

Have you noticed a cessation of the January 6 jibes recently? The words coup and traitor and insurrection? 

 

Ohh... no one's forgotten about the Trump-incited Jan. 6 attempted insurrection. There's even a reference to it in the above cited NYT report:

 

"After all, as the judge pointed out, Justice Department lawyers under Mr. Trump have done much to destroy the confidence normally afforded them in court.

 

They have fired prosecutors who worked on Mr. Trump’s two criminal cases, he said. They have attacked the charges brought against the rioters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, as a witch hunt. And they have violated judicial orders in cases stemming from Mr. Trump’s deportation policies and from his efforts to freeze federal grants."

 

 

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Ohh... no one's forgotten about the Trump-incited Jan. 6 attempted insurrection.

You can show no facts to support your claim.

 

PS, one unelected judge quoted in the Times? Get real LOL