2 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

We expect sooner or later a shortage of semi conductors...

They are finding recycled western chips in Russkie missiles - everything can be bought on the grey market besides which China won't let Russai fail or it's them next - that an a brillaint theatre to test out their tech and probe western kit and NATO doctrine. 

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

They are finding recycled western chips in Russkie missiles - everything can be bought on the grey market besides which China won't let Russai fail or it's them next - that an a brillaint theatre to test out their tech and probe western kit and NATO doctrine. 

 

Russia has some +/- 10 years advanced technology of hypersonic missiles compared to US or any other western nation.

 

Not sure if you can qualify captured and re-used short distance Western/Ukrainian missiles as grey market...

 

 

 

Actually the US government and corporate American, including all of the War & Weapons industry, are winning the Ukraine war.  Trump has absolutely no reason other than to escalate the war and drag it out.  Why?  "Money good money can be made by supplying the Army with the tools of the trade, so hope and pray if they drop The Bomb, they drop it on the Viet Cong Ruskies."  (Thanks to Country Joe and the Fish). 

So now Trump, the Peace President, is urging Zelinsky to escalate and to "go on the offensive."  Why?  $$$Cha-Ching$$$.
Money baby, money!  So Trump will advise to attack the Russians down to the last Ukrainian, and after that, buy US missiles, and if they can ramp up production, to buy drones and Bomb, Bomb Bomb Russia.
Then after Russia finishes the Ukrainians, Trump will urge the Europeans to invade Russia.  Why? Peace Though Strength means going to war.  "Show me the money, honey!" 

Everything is about the Benjamins $100!!!  Billions and Billions of Benjamins.  And after Trump bleeds the EU dry to buy weapons for Ukraine, and then themselves, well, Trump now says that the economic benefit that the US tariffs was suppose to bring to the US public will now go to Ukraine (which actually means to US weapons manufactures and military contractors).  This is a great time to buy US War Stocks.  Trump personally is probably winning and making billions as well has his buddies in the Military Industrial Complex.

The Peace President will ultimately WIN bigly.  The rest of humanity will lose.  Maybe by 2030 Trump will have as much money as Musk.  Who isn't winning?  Ukraine.  They are screwed.

8 hours ago, mordothailand said:

they are arming like crazy over here,

That only shows what kind of renegades, mental cavemans, retards and halfwits are running this NATO/EU/Ukraine brothel. Why invest in our own citizens ? Or health care, education, infrastructure, innovations and send money to those who REALLY need it when we can buy tanks and rockets to kill more people ? Right banderites ?

On 10/15/2025 at 2:13 AM, TedG said:

Who started this war again?  

What "war" are you talking about ? This operation in eastern Ukraine ? Ukraine had a multiple occasions to end it. Or even better - they shouldn't trigger this conflict in 2014.

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Anyone that uses the word banderites may as well make a claim for payment from the Kremlin.

I'm doing it for free banderite. Unlike you I've got some moral principles and honor. I would just feel bad selling ass for couple of nickels. I know you banderites very well and your modus operandi. It's kinda sad you didn't change at all over the las few decades. 

49 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

What "war" are you talking about ? This operation in eastern Ukraine ? Ukraine had a multiple occasions to end it. Or even better - they shouldn't trigger this conflict in 2014.

How did Ukaine have multiple occasion end it?   Ukraine did’nt trigger anything in 2014. 

5 hours ago, connda said:

So now Trump, the Peace President, is urging Zelinsky to escalate and to "go on the offensive."  Why?  $$$Cha-Ching$$$.

It’s the best way to bring the war to Russia.   

4 hours ago, TedG said:

It’s the best way to bring the war to Russia.   

It's the best way  to bring about WWIII...lunacy, I'm amazed at all the

fervent  support for war...like turkeys voting for Christmas.

5 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

That only shows what kind of renegades, mental cavemans, retards and halfwits are running this NATO/EU/Ukraine brothel. Why invest in our own citizens ? Or health care, education, infrastructure, innovations and send money to those who REALLY need it when we can buy tanks and rockets to kill more people ? Right banderites ?

Russia is spending 1/3 of their budget on the war.   The West has better health care, education, infrastructure, than Russia.  The West has more innovations than Russia. 

 

Russia is a gas station posing as a country. 

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The West has better health care, education, infrastructure, than Russia.

I doubt it. The US health care is the worst in the world.

3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The West has better health care

In terms of availability to health care for an average citizen US is not even close to Russia. In Russia if you go to the hospital you get help. In US first you get question about insurance. Your system make a lot of people can't even afford basic healthcare and get paracetamol for cancer and send back home in case they can't pay.

I'm surprised how people in general are prone to express their opinions about places they even never been to.

Sorry to say that but still many folks in US living their dream about how Russia allegedly is behind it's times. To much Agent 007 movies in the past 5 decades.

 

Girl, two, finally has her "Batman mask" removed after pioneering surgery in Russia and will return to Miami for Christmas

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10295767/Florida-girl-two-Batman-mask-birthmark-removed-pioneering-surgery-Russia.html

 

You probably never beed to Russia or Ukraine. I was in Russia 3 times for holidays. Multiple times in Ukraine because I used to run business there for 8 yrs. In both coutries I met great, genuine people. I found Russia as slowly developing, safe, beautiful and very individual country trying to break that rusophobic shell built by western politicians, mass media and showbusiness. I found Ukraine as corrupted and destroyed by its criminal leaders connected to local mafias managed by milionaire oligarchs. And huge social stratification there.

8 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

That only shows what kind of renegades, mental cavemans, retards and halfwits are running this NATO/EU/Ukraine brothel. Why invest in our own citizens ? Or health care, education, infrastructure, innovations and send money to those who REALLY need it when we can buy tanks and rockets to kill more people ? Right banderites ?

send money to whom ?

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I doubt it. The US health care is the worst in the world.

It's great if you're covered well for the ridiculous cost.

But way too many Americans aren't.

9 hours ago, TedG said:

It’s the best way to bring the war to Russia.   

Best way is to use diplomacy and supress this conflict before Ukraine/US/EU escalate it even more and spread it on another countries. But you banderites are still mentally back in 1943 and flexing muscles towards bigger guy. Happily clapping hands while people dying. And then begging others to finance your crusade agains humanity, common sense and wellbeing.

 

GET A LIFE banderites.

6 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

Best way is to use diplomacy and supress this conflict before Ukraine/US/EU escalate it even more and spread it on another countries. But you banderites are still mentally back in 1943 and flexing muscles towards bigger guy. Happily clapping hands while people dying. And then begging others to finance your crusade agains humanity, common sense and wellbeing.

 

GET A LIFE banderites.

I will now translate this babble.

 

The paper tiger known as Russia is threatening world peace unless the world agrees to give Ukraine to Russia.

11 hours ago, johng said:

It's the best way  to bring about WWIII...lunacy, I'm amazed at all the

fervent  support for war...like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Why would the Russians want to start another war they can't win?   Russia began a two-week war against a smaller country that is now heading towards its fourth year. 

Nice productive night

44 minutes ago, TedG said:

Putin needs to be put in jail for the massacre at Bucha.  

I'll take the dobnle of Netanhayu and putin - deal ? If so how do we do that ? 

On 10/16/2025 at 5:33 PM, Thorgal said:

 

Russia has some +/- 10 years advanced technology of hypersonic missiles compared to US or any other western nation.

 

Not sure if you can qualify captured and re-used short distance Western/Ukrainian missiles as grey market...

 

 

 

 

That even the sky fairy worshipping primitives in Iran have "hypersonic missiles" suggests the 5/10 year "gap (whatever number  you make up) would be closed quite quickly with a reprioritising  of resources. Free countries have an immense advantage over the authoratarion regimes, and thats individuality, innovation and initiative. The reason Germany was doomed as soon as the US entered WW2 wasn't just because the of the force of arms, but because of American inventiveness. Niall Ferguson analyzes it quite correctly how this stems from the Protestant work ethic. The British Empire, and its kith and kin successor, the American Empire, did not happen by coincidence. 

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On 10/15/2025 at 2:13 AM, TedG said:

Who started this war again?  

It's pretty obvious that Ukraine triggered this mess by burning alive 42 people in Odessa, 2014.

14 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

It's pretty obvious that Ukraine triggered this mess by burning alive 42 people in Odessa, 2014.

Obvious to Kremlin propagandists for sure.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Obvious to Kremlin propagandists for sure.

I understand setting building on fire deliberately with people trapped inside is "business as usual" for banderites. But not for me. Hard to ignore this fact when discussing who started this "war".

2 hours ago, t0mt0m said:

It's pretty obvious that Ukraine triggered this mess by burning alive 42 people in Odessa, 2014.

 

You are attempting to rewrite history. 

12 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

The British Empire, and its kith and kin successor, the American Empire, did not happen by coincidence

For example, the Brits invented the cavity magnetron.  The US mass-produced it. 

20 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I'll take the dobnle of Netanhayu and putin - deal ? If so how do we do that ? 

Whatever this means. 

22 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

You are attempting to rewrite history. 

I don't need to. Ukrainians already wrote it by fire, blood, death, screams of killed children, corruption, felonies and cherishing genocidal criminals like bandera.

Just now, t0mt0m said:

I don't need to. Ukrainians already wrote it by fire, blood, death, corruption, felonies and cherishing genocidal criminals like bandera.

Oh, spare me your downright stupid reply trying to justify Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine. 

9 minutes ago, TedG said:

Oh, spare me your downright stupid reply trying to justify Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine. 

I know for you facing the truth is painful and uncomfy. But I see you already made some progress and stopped using word "war", good job banderite !