On 8/27/2025 at 8:15 AM, mikeymike100 said:

Are you suggesting Nigel Farage is a right wing extremist?

The political spectrum is very broad - and whilst Farage and his party are definitely on the right, conservative ( small c), their are many groups and individuals much further right than him or his party. By the same token, there are those on the left of this spectrum, who whilst holding views which I find antithetical to mine (Corbyn on the IRA and Israel for example) I would not label as "far left". In my view, one is treading into the extremes of both ends of the spectrum when one is advocating and actively intending, advocating as a formed policy (or actually carrying out if in power) the imprisonment for political reasons, expulsion, active persecution or worse the killing of one's political opponents. Both far right - some Latin American dictatorships, and far left - Castro's Cuba for example have fallen into those categories. Neither Farage nor Corbyn for that matter are doing that. At a lower level, within the UK, neither Lucy Connolly nor Ricky Jones, although both may have broken laws, were really seriously doing that either.

 

Disliking, even finding abhorrent, political opinions are one thing, we all do it; most of us I imagine find some of the posting on here from those with whom we disagree troubling, naive perhaps, irritating and even sometimes plain annoying, but hatefull? Classifying people or parties as extreme right or extreme left is taking it many long steps further; a whole different ball game.

 

Incidentally I would also argue that the same arguments apply to other "spectrums ( spectra?)", notably the religious.

12 minutes ago, JAG said:

The political spectrum is very broad - and whilst Farage and his party are definitely on the right, conservative ( small c), their are many groups and individuals much further right than him or his party. By the same token, there are those on the left of this spectrum, who whilst holding views which I find antithetical to mine (Corbyn on the IRA and Israel for example) I would not label as "far left". In my view, one is treading into the extremes of both ends of the spectrum when one is advocating and actively intending, advocating as a formed policy (or actually carrying out if in power) the imprisonment for political reasons, expulsion, active persecution or worse the killing of one's political opponents. Both far right - some Latin American dictatorships, and far left - Castro's Cuba for example have fallen into those categories. Neither Farage nor Corbyn for that matter are doing that. At a lower level, within the UK, neither Lucy Connolly nor Ricky Jones, although both may have broken laws, were really seriously doing that either.

 

Disliking, even finding abhorrent, political opinions are one thing, we all do it; most of us I imagine find some of the posting on here from those with whom we disagree troubling, naive perhaps, irritating and even sometimes plain annoying, but hatefull? Classifying people or parties as extreme right or extreme left is taking it many long steps further; a whole different ball game.

 

Incidentally I would also argue that the same arguments apply to other "spectrums ( spectra?)", notably the religious.

Some very good points.  I actually don't believe Farage personally shares the views of far-right extremists like Tommy Robinson and the EDF, in fact he's one of Robinson's biggest critics.  But, I do think he's naive at best or just plain stupid, not to realise that many of Reform's policies are pandering to the far-right. 

14 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Revoke citizenship and adios. Like your lass Shamina, good bye, good riddance, wallowing in liberal tears

 

That only works if you get in first when they have duel citizenship.