1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Low self-esteem has nothing to do with ADHD, if ADHD even existed. 

And low self-esteem cannot be addressed with medications. 

 

Daydreaming, trouble finishing tasks .....some people have more discipline and are more driven and motivated than others, but that has more to do with genetics, upbringing, how much pressure you want to put on yourself to succeed at something etc .... and are you doing tasks you enjoy? This is not a psychological disorder. 

 

Thumbs down from me....      You clearly do not know what you are discussing.

 

ADHD and neurodivergence are not fads or lifestyle labels – they are well-documented medical realities. ADHD, for instance, is recognised by every major psychiatric body worldwide and is both diagnosable and treatable.

 

Neurodivergence more broadly encompasses genuine differences in brain function, many of which benefit from tailored strategies, therapies, or medical intervention. To dismiss or trivialise them is to ignore decades of clinical research and lived experience.

 

 

Given your response, it could be argued that you too are somewhat Neurodivergent as you clearly range outside of normal in your ignorance and wilful refusal to accept well-established medical realities - as I wrote earlier, many people are neurodivergent, this is not an insult to you - just highlighting that given your response your brain may also work a little differently.

11 hours ago, Stevey said:

 

Actually, another characteristic of ADHD is overthinking.

 

No such thing as overthinking.

You can stop thinking when you sleep.

When you are awake, think as much as you want. 

That's what the brain is for. 

You mean when making a decision? Yeah, but that's not a "disorder" .... it's just being overly cautious because you don't want to make a mistake. It might be a "character flaw", but in some cases it might actually serve you well because some people make major decisions without putting enough thought into it. 

 

It's not a "disorder" that needs to be medicated. 

 

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

No such thing as overthinking.

You can stop thinking when you sleep.

When you are awake, think as much as you want. 

That's what the brain is for. 

You mean when making a decision? Yeah, but that's not a "disorder" .... it's just being overly cautious because you don't want to make a mistake. It might be a "character flaw", but in some cases it might actually serve you well because some people make major decisions without putting enough thought into it. 

 

It's not a "disorder" that needs to be medicated. 

 

Okay, 

 

I had to give you a laughing emoji here, and Im one who have lived among many different people from all over the world with different mental disorders. Not uncommon in extreme sport environments where adhd is a winner among all of them. 

 

Myself have experience raging thoughts in parts of my life, where my head was working 24/7 for a long time, but i learned to master it without medication. Not everyone is as lucky as me and starts self medicating which is the most normal thing, but that’s another story, still relevant to the Op

1 hour ago, Stevey said:

Hey everyone, I’m flying into Thailand this Friday and wondering if anyone’s ever gotten assessed or diagnosed for ADHD here?

• Which hospitals or clinics did you go to?

• How easy was booking the appointment?

• Was the assessment thorough (interviews, questionnaires, follow‑ups)?

• About how much did it cost?

• Were you able to get medication prescribed, and were there restrictions (stimulants, renewals, etc.)?

Thanks in advance — this could help a lot!

 

Are you diagnosed with ADHD overseas already?

If you want to do a test in Thailand you would need to see a neurologist/psychiatrist. (same as overseas)

A language barrier might be an obstacle.

Medication will come last.

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Myself have experience raging thoughts in parts of my life, where my head was working 24/7 for a long time, but i learned to master it without medication. Not everyone is as lucky as me and starts self medicating which is the most normal thing, but that’s another story, still relevant to the Op

 

Sometimes people can have intense anxiety, even panic attacks.

That's not the same as "over-thinking", which is the word that was used.

Or maybe that's what he meant?

 

In that case, I myself use GABA occasionally, a neurotransmitter which is readily available on iHerb.

GABA calms the mind, and sometimes that is needed.

No prescriptions needed and probably a lot safer than prescription meds. 

But do you have constant frequent panic attacks and anxiety that you cannot manage yourself? Then I would go see a therapist, not a psychiatrist who will prescribe medications. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Sometimes people can have intense anxiety, even panic attacks.

That's not the same as "over-thinking", which is the word that was used.

Or maybe that's what he meant?

 

In that case, I myself use GABA occasionally, a neurotransmitter which is readily available on iHerb.

GABA calms the mind, and sometimes that is needed.

No prescriptions needed and probably a lot safer than prescription meds. 

But do you have constant frequent panic attacks and anxiety that you cannot manage yourself? Then I would go see a therapist, not a psychiatrist who will prescribe medications. 

 

 

Healthy lifestyle with (kognitive exercises and as well physical, and not to forget healthy diet for your specific challenge. Harmless supplements like GABA if taken in moderate doses can be part of that if you do not take any medication that interacts with your herbs or other ingridents. 

 

I used Lithium oretate in microdoses, and just by taking it, it starts applying to you for doing something against your struggles.

 

the best thing is to start a process by being aware and acknowledge you have a problem instead of masking it up and run from everything. 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Well, adhd is very much real as any other mental disorder, but when it comes to medication, I can agree for most of it, but still medication is nr one when things escalates. 

 

Some is more damaged than others and do not only have adhd, but ptsd and other mixed symptoms. Many lives perfectly fine on medications while others do not. It is not one simple answer

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Low self-esteem has nothing to do with ADHD, if ADHD even existed. 

And low self-esteem cannot be addressed with medications. 

 

Daydreaming, trouble finishing tasks .....some people have more discipline and are more driven and motivated than others, but that has more to do with genetics, upbringing, how much pressure you want to put on yourself to succeed at something etc .... and are you doing tasks you enjoy? This is not a psychological disorder. 

 

 

 

 

I’ve attached a screenshot of a YT video of a Mental health professional explaining ADHD in Adults like quite a lot of these videos the comments are in the 30-50k range of the viewers who realise they aren’t only stupid but their mind is totally jumbled up and every one of the comments someone admitting that they are barely able to operate.

 

@save the frogs  “ This is not a psychological disorder “

 

I think it’s relevant to layout some facts in that I fix Pretty complicated big Refrigeration systems in Food factories and Supermarkets so I just cannot be unintelligent, I’m the one who people sometimes call when they can’t fix it, but I’m far from the best ever. 

 

So how would you explain my issues ? Which are:

• I have a very poor working memory that manifests in many ways.

 

Randomly can’t remember names of coworkers if I’m not with them. Recalling my supervisor’s name can evade me. And if I’ve been away in Thailand a few months on one of my many ‘ inbetween jobs ‘ times I will forget everything. Names and passwords, how to navigate menus and functions in controllers or work platforms. 
 

losing my train of thought while speaking in every conversation. 
 

Personality. I’m very empathetic and will help anyone out. But I find that this is viewed as a character flaw because I have never had anyone help me with anything except when they want to curry favour with me for example if they regularly need help fixing something that they have no clue how to fix. 
 

I am brilliant on stuff I enjoy like cleaning something or if a machine is not working and that puzzle needs solving, I’ll work that out. But as the dead line approaches for the monthly Overtime Spreadsheet to be submitted next morning that I have not started yet I will procrastinate until the night before and end up finishing it at 5am, this is a common ADHD trait. 
 

I talk 10 to the dozen and wear people out, so they don’t come back. I’ve seen multiple people literally fall asleep in front of me. To be fair they are weak and just get up to early due to social conditioning. I work from 09:30 to 00:00 plus and not tired 

 

Oversharing and No filter. Like above. But don’t care what anyone thinks. 
 

Had 20 plus employers. 
 

One of the biggest issues is losing stuff due to my attention deficit. Hundreds of £££ of tools left on top, inside , under , behind plant and shop refrigeration cases. I have recently bought 8 Apple AirTags and attached to the too expensive/Much Hassle to lose items… Work phone, Tablet , Wet Vac, £2000 gas detector, a tool bag ( this list takes some effort to remember) I can’t recall everything. Stepladders ! Van Keys !! 
 

Before I settled into being a service engineer. I was a decent installer but my tools were spread out all over a room in a tool bag. That’s the being disorganised part.

 

I’ve left my passport on a plane, got it back.

 

Everyone appears to hate me. But then people  say I overthink. 
 

So after all that your saying that, as I have said in my head since I was a small child, that I am just rubbish and lazy ? Not that I, like the 30k commenters in those aforementioned YouTube Vids , may have a Dopamine deficiency in my brain ?  

 

Look up Gabor Maté

11 hours ago, Stevey said:

losing my train of thought while speaking in every conversation. 

 

Yeah, ok.

What you are describing sounds like a genuine problem.

And I will refrain from commenting further. 

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, ok.

What you are describing sounds like a genuine problem.

And I will refrain from commenting further. 

 

Just think yourself, lucky you haven’t got my brain. 

There seems to be a lot of ADHD in Thailand. It probably looks like rushing to most people.

Jesus wept. I read this thread after imbibing eight or a dozen vodkas - Grey Goose, to be more precise. I might rant a bit, but I'm not known for my tact.

 

Who invented ADHD? it's called "life", and life was never meant to be easy. Get over it.

 

Back in the day, if somebody was any variation on normal (+/-10%) they were just considered either a delinquent or a nerd, depending on the plus or minus.

 

I was a parent help on a school camp once. Was warned to be especially aware of 9-year old "Johnny" because he had ADHD. Johnny commenced to throw stones from a hilltop at everybody. I approached Johnny and grabbed him by the throat, suggested (OK, I threatened) in no uncertain terms that if he persisted with this sort of behaviour, I might (would) smack him upside the head until his ears bled.

 

To the amazement of all the teachers and caregivers, Johnny was the model child for four (unprecedented) days. A month later Johnny was stunned to discover I was his new rugby coach.

 

Johnny now employs about 300 people and has sent me a Christmas card every year for 30+ years. Go figure. 

 

 

18 hours ago, Stevey said:

Just think yourself, lucky you haven’t got my brain. 

 

Everyone has problems anyway.

 

Just make the best of it. 

 

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Would an overseas diagnosis be viable for someone diagnosed with ADHD to receive medication in the UK (i.e via prescription ?)

 

 

Medication would have to be ordered by a UK doctor.

 

Showing medical records from Thailand (especially if it includes comprehensive test results) may aid the doctor but ultimately it is still UK doctor decision.

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No such thing as overthinking.

You can stop thinking when you sleep.

When you are awake, think as much as you want. 

That's what the brain is for. 

You mean when making a decision? Yeah, but that's not a "disorder" .... it's just being overly cautious because you don't want to make a mistake. It might be a "character flaw", but in some cases it might actually serve you well because some people make major decisions without putting enough thought into it. 

 

It's not a "disorder" that needs to be medicated. 

 

 

I think he means obsessive re-thinking and obsessive worrying. Obsessive and  excessive. 

 

CXan be a feature of ADHD and also of anxiety disorders.

 

 

ADHD is a genuine, recognized disorder. One that is both under- and over-diagnosed, i.e. many people have it but have never been diagnosed but there are also many inaccurate diagnoses/self-diagnoses  of it made.

 

Its diagnosis is complex and it can often be confused with various anxiety disorders. 

 

@Stevey  your best source is the following in Bangkok

 

https://www.manarom.com/index_eng.html

 

I do not know the cost of assessment but you can email and ask them. 

 

ADHD meds (if indicated -- you might in fact have a different issue such as OCD or generalized anxiety disorder, hence the need for a comprehensive psychological assessment ) are strictly controlled in Thailand and must be obtained at a hospital ort clinic.

 

 

 

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Sometimes people can have intense anxiety, even panic attacks.

That's not the same as "over-thinking", which is the word that was used.

Or maybe that's what he meant?

 

In that case, I myself use GABA occasionally, a neurotransmitter which is readily available on iHerb.

GABA calms the mind, and sometimes that is needed.

No prescriptions needed and probably a lot safer than prescription meds. 

But do you have constant frequent panic attacks and anxiety that you cannot manage yourself? Then I would go see a therapist, not a psychiatrist who will prescribe medications. 

 

 

 

Most people who face mental health issues, are not sick with the illness every day or all their life, there is a wide specter of combined specters that affects people differently, and if you do not deny there is a problem, run from the problem, manage to find the right professionals, do your part, most mental health problems can be dealt with and solved. 

 

The most extreme and serious illnesses needs medication and also regulating monotoring with health professionals as well you have to do your part to minimize the impact of the medication, each and live healthy. 

 

The biggest problem with mental health, is that most do the opposite of what they should do, and suffers more than necessary. 

 

Simple said 

 

AI says 

 

AI-oversikt

 

You are correct that most people with mental health issues do not experience symptoms all the time, and for many, problems can be managed and resolved with appropriate care, professional help, and healthy lifestyle choices. For those with serious mental illnesses, consistent professional monitoring and medication, alongside a commitment to a healthy lifestyle, are crucial for managing the condition. The biggest challenges often stem from societal stigma, denial, avoiding help, and choosing unhealthy coping mechanisms, leading to unnecessary suffering.

 

and for most things in life, economy and education to play a role for those who suffer from mental health issues to

On 9/10/2025 at 12:45 AM, Gsxrnz said:

Jesus wept. I read this thread after imbibing eight or a dozen vodkas - Grey Goose, to be more precise. I might rant a bit, but I'm not known for my tact.

 

Who invented ADHD? it's called "life", and life was never meant to be easy. Get over it.

 

Back in the day, if somebody was any variation on normal (+/-10%) they were just considered either a delinquent or a nerd, depending on the plus or minus.

 

I was a parent help on a school camp once. Was warned to be especially aware of 9-year old "Johnny" because he had ADHD. Johnny commenced to throw stones from a hilltop at everybody. I approached Johnny and grabbed him by the throat, suggested (OK, I threatened) in no uncertain terms that if he persisted with this sort of behaviour, I might (would) smack him upside the head until his ears bled.

 

To the amazement of all the teachers and caregivers, Johnny was the model child for four (unprecedented) days. A month later Johnny was stunned to discover I was his new rugby coach.

 

Johnny now employs about 300 people and has sent me a Christmas card every year for 30+ years. Go figure. 

 

 

 

With all due respect you have no clue what ADD is, I didn’t till I realised I had it a couple of weeks back now. I was always under the impression that it was a kids disorder and I’ve watched a couple of JRE YouTube videos with ADHD/ADD doctors and never put two and two together. A couple of weeks back I was doom scrolling through YouTube Short Videos and came across this one from Hungarian Gabor Maté who I had seen previously on Joe Rogan. Now this time the video grabbed me because the title said “ why am I always late?” 
 

That’s me , late for everything. I’ve just arrived in Thailand at the house a couple of days ago now. Getting to the airport on the bus from my home in England is about 1&1/2 hours max and £5 in cost. I sat there in my chair talking to a mate and was then late. Taxi ride was then £40, just great. This video is what made me realise that contrary to what I had always thought of myself that I was just a ฟอnker with my lateness inability to just go to bed at night, can’t open post, say stuff to people ( not inappropriate) with no filter that the next day with ‘cringe hangover’ I regret saying. Recently I called a higher in the hierarchy manager to complain about my regional managers  treatment of me in a scheme. I went off on a rant that must have come across as unhinged. That led to a next day ‘cringe hangover’ alright. Absolutely no organisation and if I do manage to create some order and everything goes ok like for instance managing my overtime spreadsheet timesheet after every single job in realtime even if that’s at 2am after finishing the job and all associated data entry. But that can soon fall apart and then procrastination sets in and that timesheet will be a 9 hour job through the night job as I get a dead line of this afternoon but I get given a special “ ok .. first thing in the morning “  exemption, coz it’s me. Remember the procrastination is not just fecklessness it’s caused by a paralysis that just will not let you do what needs to be done. Also my working memory is terrible and for years I thought it was boxing related, one of my favourite occupations. Perfect example is like last night. I’m looking for my phone and go in my bag to get it. It’s not there. I look around and I find it on the washing machine or someplace and immediately then remember that I put it there. But the issue is for ADD people who lose things we don’t have any recollection of putting the item down after we get distracted by another situation like making  coffee. When we then look for the aforementioned item it a fresh challenge. I’ve lost so many expensive tools this year alone. But as soon as you discover the item in position you remember placing it there. Then there is low self esteem which is talked about and a low level depression. The low self esteem is a weird one because when it comes to my job and the core performance I’m super confident to the point of annoyance and jealousy of others but in general due to the aforementioned issues of disorder such as loss of possessions due to working memory issues and most importantly a feeling of being an outsider to the main bunch of normal types. I’ve managed to get over the feeling of being an outsider by rightfully thinking who wants to be their acquaintance anyway.  
 

it’s funny how people such as yourself and me prior to being enlightened are dismissive of people’s mental issues. 
 

My girlfriend here of about 12 years has lots of great qualities but she has mental issues concerning hoarding and the inability to just skip stuff. Old broken fans that i have replaced but won’t chuck the old one with a burnt out motor siting the old one will be handy for parts. She has a great memory to the level that she over the years has recalled my new Sims phone number a week after she set it up for me from memory when I asked. She’s very gregarious and very good at getting on with people she doesn’t care for to keep the peace and is well liked and is cheerful and happy yet she can descend in a spiral of chaos. If I wasn’t in her life the house she had built for her by her cousin who organised selling some land she owned and getting the house built for her, would be like an abandoned house in the woods. 
 

Anyway, I know that this has been a long one but I suppose if even one person recognises some of the traits I’ve talked off it might make them realise it’s not their character that’s causing them to be like this. It is a neurological issue that can be helped by getting the right drug like Ritalin or Adderall et cetera to assist the brain to retain dopamine which drives the brain to actually succeed in completing tasks. 

 

 

 

The term you’re likely thinking of is “cringe hangover.”

 

It’s that feeling people (especially those with ADHD or anxiety) get the day after they’ve been overly expressive, impulsive, chatty, or just a bit “too much” in social situations. They’ll replay interactions in their head and feel deep embarrassment — even when nothing actually went wrong.

 

This often comes from rejection sensitivity and emotional dysregulation, which are both common in ADHD. The cringe hangover makes you think, “Why did I say that?” or “They must think I’m weird,” even when everyone else has probably forgotten it.

 

Finally, I’m diagnosed

a The main issue that I’ve had throughout my whole life is the