12 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

They sent strikes (missiles, drones?) in to a sovereign nation. 

So if Mexico sent strikes in to America to take out four drug lords it would just be an attack on the four, so that's ok and America would be fine.

What if Iran sent strikes in to Israel to kill four targets? No worries, Israel wasn't a target of the attack, it was just the four.

Your hypocrisy and your justification for criminal acts and attacks on innocent sovereign nations is quite disgusting. You reflect your country though, sadly.

There would be no need for Mexico to do so.   They would ask the USA to arrest the drug lords.  

18 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

The IDF have admitted they targeted Hamas officials in Doha. To me that sounds like the Israli missiles entered Qatar's airspace and hit there Targets in Doha.

15 Fighter planes and 10 smart bombs.

 

Funny how Jordan and Saudi Arabia and Iraq didnt do anyhting.

44 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Just 14 left on the list 

Should just take another 50k civilians to clean out the rest of them 

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you feel Hamas murderers are justified in their actions? Got it. Justfying  killing of jew babies.

 

How many Palestinian babies has the IDF killed so far, but I get it, only what YOU support, everyone else has to support.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Should just take another 50k civilians to clean out the rest of them 

They should quit hiding behind civilians then. But doesnt seem like there was any collateral damage on this one. I think once the war is finished the IDF can go back to targeted assasinations again.

The  key term will be plausible deniability.

 

On Sunday, President Trump issued what he called his “last warning” to Hamas, urging the Palestinian militant group to accept a deal to release hostages from Gaza. “The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well. I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!”   Hamas said in a later statement that it received some ideas from the US side through mediators to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza. The group said it was discussing with mediators ways to develop those ideas, without giving specifics. In other words,  delaying again with the intent of not ending the  violence anytime soon.

 

One can only conclude that the Hamas leadership did not want to enter into a peace agreement or to release the hostages.

 

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Israel has dropped a real <deleted> this time, unbelievable, attacking a peaceful State while holding International ceasefire negotiations. This could end very badly.

 

It could, but Qatar really does not have any friends in the region. It has been financing terrorists for years. Qatar was not holding international ceasefire negotiations. The negotiations were suspended because Hamas said they were considering revised  peace terms that responded to their additional demands.

 

32 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Stop right there. We are talking about an attack on a sovereign nation. Agreed?
Any civilians killed, or just these four people? And what evidence do you have against them?

 

A sovereign nation that hosts the leadership of an entity at war with another nation becomes a legitimate target in a  war. However, Qatar was not the target. Rather, the enemy agents were. The strike was accurate and limited collateral damage. That type of hit does not occur without assistance from local and regional parties.  Israel could not have identified the target with this accuracy and known where the Hamas leadership was without help. Nor could the IAF fly over hostile territory and take the time to line up the target as it did without help. Qatar has a modern, well trained and advanced airforce. It did not  respond. The airforces of the region did not respond. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the UAE may have once again used Israel to do their dirty work.

 

Hamas was warned and chose martyrdom. Now the Hamas leadership can  understand the pain of the people in Gaza. While Hamas leadership enjoyed their luxury mansions, the Gazans suffered.

 

Israel must now finish its Gaza city operation asap, facilitate the entry of more aid into Gaza, and get out of Gaza. 

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The  key term will be plausible deniability.

 

On Sunday, President Trump issued what he called his “last warning” to Hamas, urging the Palestinian militant group to accept a deal to release hostages from Gaza. “The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well. I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!”

Hamas said in a later statement that it received some ideas from the US side through mediators to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

The group said it was discussing with mediators ways to develop those ideas, without giving specifics. In other words,  delaying again with the intent of not ending the  violence anytime soon.

 

The Hamas leadership did not want to enter into a peace agreement or to release the hostages.

 

 

It could, but Qatar really does not have any friends in the region. It has been financing terrorists for years. Qatar was not holding international ceasefire negotiations. The negotiations were suspended because Hamas said they were considering revised  peace terms that responded to their additional demands.

 

 

A sovereign nation that hosts the leadership of an entity at war with another nation becomes a legitimate target in a  war. However, Qatar was not the target. Rather, the enemy agents were. The strike was accurate and limited collateral damage. That type of hit does not occur without assistance from local and regional parties.  Israel could not have identified the target with this accuracy and known where the Hamas leadership was without help. Nor could the IAF fly over hostile territory and take the time to line up the target as it did without help. Qatar has a modern, well trained and advanced airforce. It did not  respond. The airforces of the region did not respond. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the UAE may have once again used Israel to do their dirty work.

 

Hamas was warned and chose martyrdom. Now the Hamas leadership can  understand the pain of the people in Gaza. While Hamas leadership enjoyed their luxury mansions, the Gazans suffered.

 

 

 

 

Happy Days

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

It could, but Qatar really does not have any friends in the region.

 

Maybe not in the region, but they have a very good friend in the US, who of course supports Qatar also as long as he can profit from it.

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Should just take another 50k civilians to clean out the rest of them 

It’s amazing that zero Hamas fighters have been killed.

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The  key term will be plausible deniability.

 

On Sunday, President Trump issued what he called his “last warning” to Hamas, urging the Palestinian militant group to accept a deal to release hostages from Gaza. “The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well. I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!”

Hamas said in a later statement that it received some ideas from the US side through mediators to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

The group said it was discussing with mediators ways to develop those ideas, without giving specifics. In other words,  delaying again with the intent of not ending the  violence anytime soon.

 

The Hamas leadership did not want to enter into a peace agreement or to release the hostages.

 

 

It could, but Qatar really does not have any friends in the region. It has been financing terrorists for years. Qatar was not holding international ceasefire negotiations. The negotiations were suspended because Hamas said they were considering revised  peace terms that responded to their additional demands.

 

 

A sovereign nation that hosts the leadership of an entity at war with another nation becomes a legitimate target in a  war. However, Qatar was not the target. Rather, the enemy agents were. The strike was accurate and limited collateral damage. That type of hit does not occur without assistance from local and regional parties.  Israel could not have identified the target with this accuracy and known where the Hamas leadership was without help. Nor could the IAF fly over hostile territory and take the time to line up the target as it did without help. Qatar has a modern, well trained and advanced airforce. It did not  respond. The airforces of the region did not respond. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the UAE may have once again used Israel to do their dirty work.

 

Hamas was warned and chose martyrdom. Now the Hamas leadership can  understand the pain of the people in Gaza. While Hamas leadership enjoyed their luxury mansions, the Gazans suffered.

 

 

 

I forgot about Trumps threat to Hamas, looks like they got suckered LOL.

 

We have an airbase near Doha. Was it Israeli planes flying through those hostile airbases? Or us. After all, same weapons, same software, same targeting, same tactics.

 

Regardless, FAFO. 

 

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Just now, TedG said:

It’s amazing that zero Hamas fighters have been killed.

 

Maybe they werent a target of the IDF then. Thanks for confirming that Israel is doing ethnic cleansing in Palestina

Just now, CallumWK said:

If the shoe fits, wear it

Who are you talking about? 

28 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

They should quit hiding behind civilians then. But doesnt seem like there was any collateral damage on this one. I think once the war is finished the IDF can go back to targeted assasinations again.

 

I had my share of typewriter heroes and apologists in my time on this forum, and it is enough now! You guys know where I stand, and I know what you guys arguments is, so why bother? 

 

Two wrong doesnt makes one right, and you guys are on the wrong side here choosing one devil above another. 

15 minutes ago, TedG said:

It’s amazing that zero Hamas fighters have been killed.

It is amazing how you guys do not see how this Middle East conflict working for China, Russia, Iran and every other state who is fed up by the American empire, and brings another nail to the coffin 

22 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Maybe not in the region, but they have a very good friend in the US, who of course supports Qatar also as long as he can profit from it.

And again, your anti Israel bias blinds you to the real politik of the region. The Gulf states detest Qatar as much as they detest Iran. The Saudis, Emiratis and Omanis are ok with Israel being their hatchet man, as long as they don't get blamed. There is also a strong likelihood that the Qataris wanted to  get rid of the Hamas burden, and this was a convenient way out of  it. The Gulf Arabs are brilliant political tacticians and honed their skills during the centuries they suffered under the brutal Turkish occupation followed by the exploitive Europeans. 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I had my share of typewriter heroes and apologists in my time on this forum, and it is enough now! You guys know where I stand, and I know what you guys arguments is, so why bother? 

Combating hate.

 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Two wrong doesnt makes one right,

Kindergarden slogans. This is reality. Sometimes ya got to kill to save lives. 100 years from now, Gazans will thank the USA

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

And again, your anti Israel bias blinds you to the real politik of the region. The Gulf states detest Qatar as much as they detest Iran.

The Saudis, Emiratis and Omanis are ok with Israel being their hatchet man, as long as they don't get blamed. There is also a strong likelihood that the Qataris wanted to  get rid of the Hamas burden, and this was a convenient way out of  it. The Gulf Arabs are brilliant political tacticians and honed their skills during the centuries they suffered under the brutal Turkish occupation followed by the exploitive Europeans. 

 

You fail again to reply to the topic of my comment.

 

Yes I am anti-israel, and I have the right to be so, same as you have the right to be anti Palestine.

 

But someone in the White House is very good friends with the terrorists that support Hamas

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Combating hate.

 

Kindergarden slogans. This is reality. Sometimes ya got to kill to save lives. 100 years from now, Gazans will thank the USA

Anyone sharing hate here, it must be you, and you are not even aware of it while you do what you do and type your endlessly ideas from top of your head day in and day out after midnight in Asia. 

Just now, Patong2021 said:

And again, your anti Israel bias blinds you to the real politik of the region. The Gulf states detest Qatar as much as they detest Iran.

The Saudis, Emiratis and Omanis are ok with Israel being their hatchet man, as long as they don't get blamed. There is also a strong likelihood that the Qataris wanted to  get rid of the Hamas burden, and this was a convenient way out of  it. The Gulf Arabs are brilliant political tacticians and honed their skills during the centuries they suffered under the brutal Turkish occupation followed by the exploitive Europeans. 

Damn dude where did you come from?

 

You know what you left out in your brilliant summary? Israel is worth more to those countries economically than Hamas. The Saudis are already invested in Israeli tech companies. Saudi Crown Prince isnt stupid....he realizes how much the Jews meant to the Golden Age of Islam and hes got the cash to bring those days back for Muslims. Need to kill off some fanatics though.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Stop right there. We are talking about an attack on a sovereign nation. Agreed?

Any civilians killed, or just these four people? And what evidence do you have against them?

 

  Similar to when the USA took out Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan 

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Similar to when the USA took out Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan 

No it is not! Not even close to be the same scenario 

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

No it is not! Not even close to be the same scenario 

 

   One Country targeting and eliminating  terrorists in another country .

What is the difference ?

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Leo, who typically refrains from speaking off the cuff, expressed unusually forceful concern on Tuesday about the consequences of Israel's strike in Qatar.

 

"There's some really serious news right now: Israel's attack on some Hamas leaders in Qatar," the pontiff told journalists outside his summer residence in Castel Gandolfo.

 

"The entire situation is very serious," Leo said. "We do not know how things will go. It is really serious."

 

Pope Leo says Israeli strikes on Qatar create 'very serious' situation

 

Pope Leo XIV looks on as he leads a Holy Mass for the canonisation of Carlo Acutis, a British-born Italian boy who will become the first millennial to be made a Catholic saint, and Pier Giorgio Frassati, in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, September 7, 2025. REUTERS/Guglielmo Mangiapane/File Photo© Thomson Reuters

 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Anyone sharing hate here, it must be you, and you are not even aware of it while you do what you do and type your endlessly ideas from top of your head day in and day out after midnight in Asia. 

Its 2pm ET

1 minute ago, bannork said:

Pope Leo, who typically refrains from speaking off the cuff, expressed unusually forceful concern on Tuesday about the consequences of Israel's strike in Qatar.

How many divisions does the Pope have. Hes from Chicago besides.

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres on Tuesday condemned Israel’s strikes as a “flagrant violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Qatar.”

 

He said Qatar has been playing a very positive role to try and achieve a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of all hostages held by Hamas.

 

“All parties must work towards achieving a permanent ceasefire, not destroying it," Guterres told reporters.

 

UN chief Guterres condemns Israeli strikes on Qatar

 

U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres speaks during a High-level International Conference for the Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine and the Implementation of the Two-State Solution at U.N. headquarters in New York City, U.S., July 28, 2025. REUTERS/Jeenah Moon/File Photo© Thomson Reuters

 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

It is amazing how you guys do not see how this Middle East conflict working for China, Russia, Iran and every other state who is fed up by the American empire, and brings another nail to the coffin 

Enjoy our demise, you will be speaking Russian thereafter

12 minutes ago, bannork said:

He said Qatar has been playing a very positive role to try and achieve a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of all hostages held by Hamas.

 

  Hamas released videos of malnourished starving Israeli hostages digging their own graves .

   Its passed the time of talking and negotiating , Hamas were told to release the hostages immediately or carnage will ensue 

   

Good for Israel!  Get them anytime, anyplace and anywhere.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The four deceased were attacked , they were the target .

Doha wasn't the target of the attack 

 

Are you special?