2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

And since then Israel has done the same, same as before Oct 7th.

 

   No they haven't . 

Israel hasn't taken hostages

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No they haven't . 

Israel hasn't taken hostages

Nope, detention camps, and general detention for kids, women and men who have been systematically abused, and also killed for 70 years. 

 

Kids down to 12 years have been reported detained 

 

Amnesty have restricted their claims to 50 yeats in this report from 2017

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

53 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Jeff: You gave your full support to Hamas whilst their Oct 7 th terror attack was in progress .

You give your full support to the Israeli terrorist state.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No they haven't . 

Israel hasn't taken hostages

Administrative detainees, who have had no trial. Over 1000, including children.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Nope, detention camps, and general detention for kids, women and men who have been systematically abused, and also killed for 70 years. 

 

Kids down to 12 years have been reported detained 

 

   We are talking about hostages and taking hostages .

Prisoners are a different subject

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   We are talking about hostages and taking hostages .

Prisoners are a different subject

It is not when it is state terror 

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Administrative detainees, who have had no trial. Over 1000, including children.

 

Not being held hostage though 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

It is not when it is state terror 

 

   No, you cannot change the meanings of words to suit your agenda .

Palestinian prisoners in Israel are not being held hostage 

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, you cannot change the meanings of words to suit your agenda .

Palestinian prisoners in Israel are not being held hostage 

 

Just a matter of power and injustice, thermology you choose to use becomes invalid. How Israel systematically have punished innocent family members and neighborhood for other crimes and actions reminds me of how the nazis spread fear and also consequences for some few who where resisting the occupation. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Not being held hostage though 

Not that you’ll change your Israeli bias———

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/02/release-of-civilian-hostages-held-in-gaza-and-arbitrarily-detained-palestinians-must-be-immediate-and-not-hinge-on-ceasefire-negotiations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

But the release of both civilian hostages and Palestinians arbitrarily detained – especially those held without charges or trial – should not be a matter of negotiation; it is a matter of international law. Hostage taking is a war crime. There can be no justification for abducting anyone to use as a hostage, nor for the prolonged, arbitrary detention of individuals to serve as bargaining chips,” said Erika Guevara Rosas, Senior Director for Research, Advocacy, Policy and Campaigns at Amnesty International.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Just a matter of power and injustice, thermology you choose to use becomes invalid. How Israel systematically have punished innocent family members and neighborhood for other crimes and actions reminds me of how the nazis spread fear and also consequences for some few who where resisting the occupation. 

 

Bottom line is .

Hamas are holding hostages 

Israel are NOT holding hostages

 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Bottom line is .

Hamas are holding hostages 

Israel are NOT holding hostages

 

They do, but you are not willing to play along on the idea of collective punishment, and also detaining minors without legal jurisdiction, and also systematically abuse by a greater power. 

 

They literally held millions of people detained as hostages

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No they haven't . 

Israel hasn't taken hostages

 

25 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nope, detention camps, and general detention for kids, women and men who have been systematically abused, and also killed for 70 years. 

 

Kids down to 12 years have been reported detained 

 

Amnesty have restricted their claims to 50 yeats in this report from 2017

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

 

22 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Administrative detainees, who have had no trial. Over 1000, including children.

 

Nick, I think you are fighting a losing battle here.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

They do, but you are not willing to play along on the idea of collective punishment, and also detaining minors without legal jurisdiction, and also systematically abuse by a greater power. 

 

They literally held millions of people detained as hostages

Ears that hear not, words are wasted.

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Nick, I think you are fighting a losing battle here.

 

   Yes, I am speaking with people that don't seem to know what a hostage is 

33 minutes ago, JimCM said:

You give your full support to the Israeli terrorist state.

 

   That is not true 

5 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Ears that hear not, words are wasted.

I just chime in once and awhile, and Nick keeps his same view no matter what. Israel and IDF do the right thing. 

 

That's how it is, and not uncommon every conflict around the world where there is one bad and one good. 

 

We all fall for it sooner or later, no exemption 

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, I am speaking with people that don't seem to know what a hostage is 

 

What's the difference between Hostages and Administrative detainees, both held against their will?

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

What's the difference between Hostages and Administrative detainees, both held against their will?

 

   Jeff : If you need to ask that question, then you really shouldn't be taking part in a discussion about it .

   You need to learn what words mean before you start using those words

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Jeff : If you need to ask that question, then you really shouldn't be taking part in a discussion about it .

   You need to learn what words mean before you start using those words

 

Can't answer the question, can you, typical.

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Can't answer the question, can you, typical.

 

   Can you look the words up .

You don't need me to tell you 

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Can you look the words up .

You don't need me to tell you 

 

Ah, but I do, that's why I asked.

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Ah, but I do, that's why I asked.

What does it mean to be a hostage?

 

"someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:"

55 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I just chime in once and awhile, and Nick keeps his same view no matter what. Israel and IDF do the right thing. 

 

That's how it is, and not uncommon every conflict around the world where there is one bad and one good. 

 

We all fall for it sooner or later, no exemption 

You seem to keep your same view no matter what.

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What does it mean to be a hostage?

 

"someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:"

 

One out of two ain't bad I suppose, care to go for the other question, What's are Administrative detainees, held against their will?

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You seem to keep your same view no matter what.

What is my view? 

 

Hamas is a terrorist organisation? Israel perform abuse of power and war crimes? 

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

One out of two ain't bad I suppose, care to go for the other question, What's are Administrative detainees, held against their will?

 

  Are you asking me to open google , put Administrative detainees into the search engine , then C&P the results on here for you to read ?

  Go and do it yourself, who do you think that I am '?

Your run around boy ?

Lazy *****er

A Palestinian medical charity said Tuesday that Israel destroyed its main center in Gaza City after ordering its evacuation.

 

The Palestinian Medical Relief Society said an Israeli strike reduced its six-story building in the Tel al-Hawa neighborhood to rubble. It said the center was one of the main facilities in the city providing blood donation and testing services, trauma care, cancer medicine and chronic disease treatment.

 

Multiple hospitals in the famine-stricken city have been forced to shut down as Israel forces advance. Israel accuses Hamas of using medical facilities for military purposes — which could cause them to lose their protection under international law — but the military has often provided little or no evidence of a significant militant presence.

 

Israel destroys evacuated health center in Gaza City, medics say

 

 

3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

The Dresden bombings were in Feb 1945.

 

The Geneva Conventions came into being in 1949, so your point is moot.

Cool. We decide what the Convention says and who it applies to

1 hour ago, bannork said:

A Palestinian medical charity said Tuesday that Israel destroyed its main center in Gaza City after ordering its evacuation.

 

The Palestinian Medical Relief Society said an Israeli strike reduced its six-story building in the Tel al-Hawa neighborhood to rubble. It said the center was one of the main facilities in the city providing blood donation and testing services, trauma care, cancer medicine and chronic disease treatment.

 

Multiple hospitals in the famine-stricken city have been forced to shut down as Israel forces advance. Israel accuses Hamas of using medical facilities for military purposes — which could cause them to lose their protection under international law — but the military has often provided little or no evidence of a significant militant presence.

 

Israel destroys evacuated health center in Gaza City, medics say

 

 

Why did Israel order the evacuation before they bombed it?