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UK set to recognise Palestinian state on Sunday

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1 hour ago, JimCM said:

There are many freedom fighters in Palestine, some factions of Hamas are seen by many neighbors as freedom fighters. The West, influenced by US and Israel call the whole Hamas organization terrorists.

 

Can you say specifically which factions of Hamas are regarded as freedom fighters and by which countries?  Did any of those Hamas factions take part in the Oct. 7 attacks?

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2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Are you saying Hamas members are "the Palestinian freedom fighters fighting for rights and fairness and end to land theft, illegal settlements, apartheid etc.?"

Where "Hamas" is mentioned?

Stop fantasizing 

On 9/30/2025 at 10:46 AM, Evil Penevil said:

 

Palestinians  who aren't members of Hamas are unfortunate casualties of war.  Innocent civilians die in almost every armed conflict.  The Gaza war is no exception.  Israel's intent is not to eliminate the Palestinian people but Hamas as a terrorist organization

 

That is exactly what Israel`s propaganda machine is trying to make the world believe from the beginning of the mass slaughter.

 

If only their leaders would not have openly called for Amalek and said, that "there are no innocents in Gaza", which was also repeated by many IDF soldiers in interviews and is believed by the majority of Israelis.

 

Amalek = Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ (1 Samuel 15:2–3 ESV)

 

If Israels` intention only was the elimination of Hamas, then ...

 

... why slaughter the world`s kitchen workers?

... why murder and bury the 15 aid workers?

... why intentionally shoot children in the head, chest or abdomen?

... why target children with drones?

... why keep stealing their land and selling it even before the war is over?

... why eliminate medics and journalists?

... why pay billions to buy US politicians via AIPAC

... and so on

... and on

 

If Israel only wants to end terrorism and live peacefully next to their neighbors, why do they keep stealing land in the Westbank?

 

Oppression creates resistance.

 

Logic dictates, that resistance follows oppression. Not the other way around.

 

If there is no oppression then why resist? And against what or whom?

 

Hamas is a resistance movement, freedom fighters to those, who are oppressed and terrorists to those who oppress, trying to mask it as self defense.

 

The equation is simple: no oppression - no terrorists. 

 

It is as simple as that and Israel knows that too well.

 

Same as they very well know, that Hamas cannot be destroyed same as you would destroy some clearly definable enemy.

 

Hamas is not a group of soldiers, with names, numbers and dog tags.

 

Hamas are the surviving members of a slaughtered family, the sons of murdered fathers and displaced mothers and the boys who grew up with IDF suppression on a daily base.

 

Hamas is what I assume every member here would sooner or later turn into, if he would have endured, what Gazans are enduring for decades.

 

If you really want to end Hamas and terrorism in general, there are only 2 ways:

 

1. end your oppression and give back the land you stole, same as the UN demanded months ago

 

2. keep on oppressing and stealing, which will naturally result in the creation of more and more resistance, desperately try to make the world believe that you are the victim, while murdering them by the thousands and inevitably go down in history as the next "Third Reich" founded on blood and corpses by murderers and rapists.

 

Sadly, is seems to be very clear, which way Israel has chosen.

On 10/1/2025 at 2:25 PM, newbee2022 said:

Where "Hamas" is mentioned?

Stop fantasizing 

 

It was mentioned in the quote box in the post above yours:

 

On 10/1/2025 at 12:44 PM, JimCM said:

There are many freedom fighters in Palestine, some factions of Hamas are seen by many neighbors as freedom fighters. The West, influenced by US and Israel call the whole Hamas organization terrorists.

 

Fantasizing about Hamas?  default_68.gif.7d7e43ebb46a1734c361b8506c9a4e03.gif   That's a horrible thought!

 

But on a serious note:  Can any pro-Palestinian BM name a "resistance group" or "freedom fighters" in Gaza that don't use terror tactics?  I would count the Palestinian Authority in that category, but it isn't active in Gaza.

4 hours ago, Somjot said:

Hamas is a resistance movement, freedom fighters to those, who are oppressed and terrorists to those who oppress, trying to mask it as self defense.

 

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters, then we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.  There is nothing you could write than would persuade me you are right and vice versa.  I do acknowledge and applaud your honesty in openly supporting Hamas on AN.  

4 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

That is exactly what Israel`s propaganda machine is trying to make the world believe from the beginning of the mass slaughter.

 

If only their leaders would not have openly called for Amalek and said, that "there are no innocents in Gaza", which was also repeated by many IDF soldiers in interviews and is believed by the majority of Israelis.

 

Amalek = Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ (1 Samuel 15:2–3 ESV)

 

If Israels` intention only was the elimination of Hamas, then ...

 

... why slaughter the world`s kitchen workers?

... why murder and bury the 15 aid workers?

... why intentionally shoot children in the head, chest or abdomen?

... why target children with drones?

... why keep stealing their land and selling it even before the war is over?

... why eliminate medics and journalists?

... why pay billions to buy US politicians via AIPAC

... and so on

... and on

 

If Israel only wants to end terrorism and live peacefully next to their neighbors, why do they keep stealing land in the Westbank?

 

Oppression creates resistance.

 

Logic dictates, that resistance follows oppression. Not the other way around.

 

If there is no oppression then why resist? And against what or whom?

 

Hamas is a resistance movement, freedom fighters to those, who are oppressed and terrorists to those who oppress, trying to mask it as self defense.

 

The equation is simple: no oppression - no terrorists. 

 

It is as simple as that and Israel knows that too well.

 

Same as they very well know, that Hamas cannot be destroyed same as you would destroy some clearly definable enemy.

 

Hamas is not a group of soldiers, with names, numbers and dog tags.

 

Hamas are the surviving members of a slaughtered family, the sons of murdered fathers and displaced mothers and the boys who grew up with IDF suppression on a daily base.

 

Hamas is what I assume every member here would sooner or later turn into, if he would have endured, what Gazans are enduring for decades.

 

If you really want to end Hamas and terrorism in general, there are only 2 ways:

 

1. end your oppression and give back the land you stole, same as the UN demanded months ago

 

2. keep on oppressing and stealing, which will naturally result in the creation of more and more resistance, desperately try to make the world believe that you are the victim, while murdering them by the thousands and inevitably go down in history as the next "Third Reich" founded on blood and corpses by murderers and rapists.

 

Sadly, is seems to be very clear, which way Israel has chosen.

Question for you.  Did you happen to condemn the Oct 7th attack by HAMAS? 

27 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

Question for you.  Did you happen to condemn the Oct 7th attack by HAMAS? 

Yes, I condemn the Oct 7th attack. But it does not justify genocide of the Palestinians and the stealing of their land. Netanyahu needs to be locked up in the Hague.

7 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

It was mentioned in the quote box in the post above yours:

 

 

Fantasizing about Hamas?  default_68.gif.7d7e43ebb46a1734c361b8506c9a4e03.gif   That's a horrible thought!

 

But on a serious note:  Can any pro-Palestinian BM name a "resistance group" or "freedom fighters" in Gaza that don't use terror tactics?  I would count the Palestinian Authority in that category, but it isn't active in Gaza.

So you are 'Anti - Palestine'? Most human beings with any morality would want what is best for both parties. 

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters, then we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.  There is nothing you could write than would persuade me you are right and vice versa.  I do acknowledge and applaud your honesty in openly supporting Hamas on AN.  

Where did he say he supports Hamas, I missed that.

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Where did he say he supports Hamas, I missed that.

You called Hamas "freedom fighters", yes?

On 10/2/2025 at 12:56 AM, Evil Penevil said:

 

Can you say specifically which factions of Hamas are regarded as freedom fighters and by which countries?  Did any of those Hamas factions take part in the Oct. 7 attacks?

I get that as an American it’s easy to see Hamas only as terrorists - that’s the story most of you are told and some are gullible enough to believe it. But outside the U.S, the picture looks very different. Most of the world, from Asia and the Middle East to Africa and even Russia and China - doesn’t label Hamas as terrorists. They see them as part of a resistance that grew out of decades of occupation and colonial control.

Like a lot of liberation movements in history, Hamas has political and social wings, and only a small militant faction actually carries out attacks. The West often frames these conflicts through a colonial lens - but for millions of people living under occupation, the fight for freedom looks very different. Stop polarizing in a typical Western way, trying to say someone supporting Hamas has, by Western default, got to be wrong.

 

Some countries who see Hamas as freedom fighters:-

 

Turkey – Refuses to call Hamas terrorists. President Erdoğan has repeatedly described them as “resistance” or “freedom fighters.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkeys-erdogan-hamas-arent-terrorists-theyre-mujahideen-defending-homeland/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

Malaysia – Anwar: I view Hamas through the eyes of freedom, not the lens of a colonizer.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/03/18/anwar-i-view-hamas-through-the-eyes-of-freedom-not-the-lens-of-a-coloniser?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

Qatar – Hosts Hamas’s political office in Doha, does not label them terrorists.

Iran – Major backer of Hamas militarily and financially; treats them as a legitimate resistance movement.

Syria – Despite tensions in the past, does not classify Hamas as terrorists and has restored ties.

Lebanon – Hezbollah and other factions back Hamas; the government does not proscribe them as terrorists.

Russia – Does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organization; Moscow has hosted Hamas delegations for talks.

China – Avoids the “terrorist” label; calls Hamas part of the “Palestinian resistance.”

Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia Venezuela, Bolivia, etc 


 

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You called Hamas "freedom fighters", yes?

Where?

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Where?

You don't remember where you said Hamas are freedom fighters?

 

Are you saying now that Hamas are not freedom fighters?

 

Do you also agree that Hamas are terrorists?

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters, then we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.  There is nothing you could write than would persuade me you are right and vice versa.  I do acknowledge and applaud your honesty in openly supporting Hamas on AN.  

Did you believe the US organization, NORAID supporting Sinn Fein were all terrorists?

You are blinkered, to understand both sides you take the blinkers off.

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

you also agree that Hamas are terrorists?

That would implement that half of the Palestinians are terrorists?

Ridiculous 

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You don't remember where you said Hamas are freedom fighters?

 

Are you saying now that Hamas are not freedom fighters?

 

Do you also agree that Hamas are terrorists?

Yes.

No.

No.

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1 minute ago, JimCM said:

organization, NORAID supporting Sinn Fein were all terrorists?

No, never

Just now, newbee2022 said:

That would implement that half of the Palestinians are terrorists?

Ridiculous 

These Americans are polarized and believe what they are told. They have colonial glasses on.

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, never

Were the political wing of IRA terrorists?

7 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Yes.

No.

No.

Do you agree that Hamas are freedom fighters? 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

You don't remember where you said Hamas are freedom fighters?

 

Are you saying now that Hamas are not freedom fighters?

 

Do you also agree that Hamas are terrorists?

I'm not referring to my own post.

Check

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you agree that Hamas are freedom fighters? 

Read my post for Fannys sake.

17 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Read my post for Fannys sake.

 

Your post was ambiguous for fanny's sake. 

 

Why can you not answer? 

 

Do you believe Hamas are freedom fighters?

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9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters, then we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.  There is nothing you could write than would persuade me you are right and vice versaI do acknowledge and applaud your honesty in openly supporting Hamas on AN.  

 

I do agree with you that we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.

 

But it is not my the alleged "support for Hamas", you are trying to libel me with but your incapability and unwillingness to have a fair conversation on equal footing:

 

I walk into a debate with facts, an opinion based on these facts and the belief that I am right, but I always keep in mind that there is a chance, as small as it may be, that my opponent is right and I am wrong.

 

That is the basic condition of every meaningful discussion.

(And trust me nothing would make me happier if you guys were right and I am wrong because the ongoing mass slaughter and atrocities especially towards children partially carried out with weapons from my home country is killing me. The world I believed in, our values like freedom of speech, human rights and most importantly our (due to the Holocaust) inherited lifetime duty to do anything in our power that such atrocities will never ever happen again – all that, lies shattered in front of me.)

 

However, your position in this discussion is also based on facts, but due to your primary motivation being the defense of Israel and its actions, you preselect those facts, ignore and avoid uncomfortable ones and cannot accept the possibility you could be wrong, which makes you apply unfair discussion techniques.

 

And you just delivered the perfect example for that.

 

In my post which you partially quoted I asked quite a few uncomfortable questions.

Questions that clearly show many atrocities of Israel, while at the same time proving you wrong, that Israel only wants to destroy Hamas but not the civil population of Gaza.

 

Fully aware of that, you try to eloquently avoid those questions and instead libel me as a terrorist supporter, automatically making everything I say wrong and evil.

 

I wrote:

 

14 hours ago, Somjot said:

Hamas is a resistance movement,

 

"Resistance movement" is primarily a neutral term, and it has yet to be determined if that resistance was lawful or unlawful, but even an unlawful resistance is resistance.

 

Then I wrote

 

14 hours ago, Somjot said:

freedom fighters to those, who are oppressed and terrorists to those who oppress,

 

I'm not a native speaker but I think the term those does clearly say others, which again means not me.

 

Let alone me mentioning many times that I am German plus the fact that I am able to (more or less) have my say in here clearly excludes me from any group, which might be oppressed by Israel.

 

Yet you intentionally comment only a part of my sentence out of the context.

 

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters. 

 

and instantly libel me as a terrorist supporter

 

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 I do acknowledge and applaud your honesty in openly supporting Hamas on AN.  

 

And by doing so you unknowingly admit that you are wrong. 

 

Because if your cause was just and right you wouldn't need to apply these pathetic discussion strategies of smearing and libeling your opponents instead of debating fairly. 

21 minutes ago, Somjot said:

 

 

I do agree with you that we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.

 

But it is not my the alleged "support for Hamas", you are trying to libel me with but your incapability and unwillingness to have a fair conversation on equal footing:

 

I walk into a debate with facts, an opinion based on these facts and the belief that I am right, but I always keep in mind that there is a chance, as small as it may be, that my opponent is right and I am wrong.

 

That is the basic condition of every meaningful discussion.

(And trust me nothing would make me happier if you guys were right and I am wrong because the ongoing mass slaughter and atrocities especially towards children partially carried out with weapons from my home country is killing me. The world I believed in, our values like freedom of speech, human rights and most importantly our (due to the Holocaust) inherited lifetime duty to do anything in our power that such atrocities will never ever happen again – all that, lies shattered in front of me.)

 

However, your position in this discussion is also based on facts, but due to your primary motivation being the defense of Israel and its actions, you preselect those facts, ignore and avoid uncomfortable ones and cannot accept the possibility you could be wrong, which makes you apply unfair discussion techniques.

 

And you just delivered the perfect example for that.

 

In my post which you partially quoted I asked quite a few uncomfortable questions.

Questions that clearly show many atrocities of Israel, while at the same time proving you wrong, that Israel only wants to destroy Hamas but not the civil population of Gaza.

 

Fully aware of that, you try to eloquently avoid those questions and instead libel me as a terrorist supporter, automatically making everything I say wrong and evil.

 

I wrote:

 

 

"Resistance movement" is primarily a neutral term, and it has yet to be determined if that resistance was lawful or unlawful, but even an unlawful resistance is resistance.

 

Then I wrote

 

 

I'm not a native speaker but I think the term those does clearly say others, which again means not me.

 

Let alone me mentioning many times that I am German plus the fact that I am able to (more or less) have my say in here clearly excludes me from any group, which might be oppressed by Israel.

 

Yet you intentionally comment only a part of my sentence out of the context.

 

 

and instantly libel me as a terrorist supporter

 

 

And by doing so you unknowingly admit that you are wrong. 

 

Because if your cause was just and right you wouldn't need to apply these pathetic discussion strategies of smearing and libeling your opponents instead of debating fairly. 

Thanks for eloquently scribing my exact thoughts. 
 

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you agree that Hamas are freedom fighters? 

 

   I do believe that Hamas have surrenderand and they are no longer fighting/fighters 

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

So you are 'Anti - Palestine'? Most human beings with any morality would want what is best for both parties. 

 I am not "anti-Palestine" in any way, shape or form.  I am anti-Hamas and also against anyone, in Gaza or elsewhere, who opposes the existence of Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews.

 

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

Where did he say he supports Hamas, I missed that.

 

I didn't write he said he supports Hamas,  I drew that conclusion on the basis of statements he made which express support for Hamas.  It was clear from the context I was referring to supportive posts on AN, nothing else.  I have no idea if he is a supporter of Hamas IRL.  Some examples of his posts.

 

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Hamas is a resistance movement, freedom fighters to those, who are oppressed and terrorists to those who oppress, trying to mask it as self defense.

 

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Hamas are the surviving members of a slaughtered family, the sons of murdered fathers and displaced mothers and the boys who grew up with IDF suppression on a daily base.

 

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Hamas is what I assume every member here would sooner or later turn into, if he would have endured, what Gazans are enduring for decades.

 

On 8/30/2025 at 11:42 AM, Somjot said:

Hamas or Palestinians NEVER restricted the delivery of food.

 

I want to empathize I am only referring to posts on AN, not any other form of support for Hamas.

 

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

I get that as an American it’s easy to see Hamas only as terrorists - that’s the story most of you are told and some are gullible enough to believe it. 

 

 I oppose Hamas because of the terrible terrorist attacks they have launched against Israeli civilians.  I also oppose Hamas because it is an Islamist organization that wants to impose an Islamist state on Palestine.  From the 1988 Hamas Charter, which has never been renounced, only updated.

  • Article 5:  By adopting Islam as its way of life, the Movement goes back to the time of the birth of the Islamic message, of the righteous ancestor, for Allah is its target, the Prophet is its example and the Koran is its constitution.
  • Article 8: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
  • Article 11: The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [endowment] consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

 

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

Some countries who see Hamas as freedom fighters:-

 

Turkey – Refuses to call Hamas terrorists. President Erdoğan has repeatedly described them as “resistance” or “freedom fighters.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkeys-erdogan-hamas-arent-terrorists-theyre-mujahideen-defending-homeland/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

Malaysia – Anwar: I view Hamas through the eyes of freedom, not the lens of a colonizer.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/03/18/anwar-i-view-hamas-through-the-eyes-of-freedom-not-the-lens-of-a-coloniser?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

Qatar – Hosts Hamas’s political office in Doha, does not label them terrorists.

Iran – Major backer of Hamas militarily and financially; treats them as a legitimate resistance movement.

Syria – Despite tensions in the past, does not classify Hamas as terrorists and has restored ties.

Lebanon – Hezbollah and other factions back Hamas; the government does not proscribe them as terrorists.

Russia – Does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organization; Moscow has hosted Hamas delegations for talks.

China – Avoids the “terrorist” label; calls Hamas part of the “Palestinian resistance.”

Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia Venezuela, Bolivia, etc 

 

That's not a very impressive list.  Which of those countries would you consider a democracy with freedom of religion?  Aside from Russia, none of them as a substantial Jewish population and the roughly 160,000 Jews remaining in Russia are mostly non-observant.

Iran is most explicitly antisemitic country in the world, while  the others on the list tend to various degrees of antisemitism.  Malaysia is virulently antisemitic.

 

10 hours ago, JimCM said:

Did you believe the US organization, NORAID supporting Sinn Fein were all terrorists?

 

:offtopic:NORAID and Sinn Fein in the 1980s!    That's about as far off topic as you can get!   cheesy.gif.d8a2b22cfeaf8096c53ed7b5c42bac04.gif   But to answer your question- NORAID was a private membership organization.  I don't believe its members were terrorists.  They were naive Americans of Irish descent who thought they were donating money to support needy families.

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19 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

But on a serious note:  Can any pro-Palestinian BM name a "resistance group" or "freedom fighters" in Gaza that don't use terror tactics?  I would count the Palestinian Authority in that category, but it isn't active in Gaza.

 

 While the story of armed Palestinian resistance is known, the equally important history of nonviolent resistance is largely untold. 

 

 Trade unions struggled to gain the rights to health insurance, better wages, improved work conditions, and the right to arbitration for workers in the Occupied Territories.

 

Health care professionals set up Medical Relief Committees, which began to operate under the mantle of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees during the late 1970s (the UPMRC continues to be active in the West Bank and Gaza)

 

Agricultural Relief Committees began forming in 1983, and concentrated on working with Palestinian farmers  bans that prevented Palestinian farmers from exporting their produce to Israeli markets

 

General Federation of Palestinian Students  in Gaza included social and community activities, clubs, sports, and games with explicit political messages. They also began to organize spontaneous protests and demonstrations against the occupation

 

The BADIL Resource Center for Palestinian Residency and Refugee Rights fought for the Palestinian refugees and their right of return which was officially recognized by UN General Assembly Resolution 194, adopted in December 1948 (one day after the Universal Declaration of Human Rights), 

Despite these acknowledgements of the right of return in international law, the international community has done little or nothing to apply these UN resolutions

 

The Global Palestinian Right of Return Coalition was established in 2001 and in the U.S., Al-Awda, The Palestinian Rightof Return Coalition

 

On March 30, 1976. Thousands of Palestinian Israelis took part in a nonviolent demonstration against 
an Israeli government plan to expropriate 60,000 dunams of Palestinian-owned land in the Galilee  it was 
met by violence by the Israeli police. Six Palestinians were killed and 96 others were injured.

 

The Palestinian Center for the Study of Non-Violence documented the systematic attempts to develop nonviolent forms of resistance to the occupation, providing new theories regarding nonviolence as a strategy of resistance.

 

One of the major nonviolent tactics was the refusal to pay taxes to the military occupation authorities. This was a particularly important strategy, since tax revenues collected from the Occupied Territories helped support the military and other expenditures needed to maintain the Israeli occupation. In effect, the tax system was a way toforce Palestinians to pay for their own occupation. 

 

For six weeks during September and October 1989, Beit Sahour residents launched a total tax revolt against the Israeli occupation regime, under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation.” Israeli 
reprisals were swift and harsh. The village was placed under total siege, food and medical supplies were stopped, telephone lines were cut, and prolonged curfews were imposed. “Tax raids ” by army and tax officials, which had been used systematically against other instances of tax refusal, resulted in the residents being stripped of over $1.5 million worth of goods. Many residents were beaten and arrested during these raids. 

 

Occasional suicide bombings have received nearly all of the media’s attention, but most Palestinian resistance to occupation has been overwhelmingly through nonviolent actions and tactics.

 

 A major form of resistance was the development of alternative institutions and leadership. Sometimes this took official forms. For example, in the municipal elections held in 1976, Palestinians overwhelmingly elected members of nationalist parties to positions of local leadership, although many of these figures were subsequently jailed or exiled by Israeli forces.

 

In 1981,local political bodies created a new institution, Lajnat alTawjih (the Committee of Guidance), to provide national leadership to the resistance to the occupation. Once again, Israel arrested many of the members of this group.

 

The General Union of Palestinian Women was formed in 1965, but it was in the 1970s that popular Women’s Committees began to take a more active role. These popular committees worked with the understanding that strengthening the role of women in the struggle against the occupation would change both the nature of women’s roles and of the anti-occupation struggle itself. Goals and activities of local Women’s Committees varied, but all stressed the need for productive work, education, and vocational training for women, as well as involving houseworking women in wage-earning activities. 

 

However, Israels reaction to any kind of resistance, no matter if violent or like in most cases nonviolent was always the same:

 

Arrest, Detainment, oppression, murder.

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 I didn't write he said he supports Hamas,  I drew that conclusion on the basis of statements he made which express support for Hamas.  It was clear from the context I was referring to supportive posts on AN, nothing else.  I have no idea if he is a supporter of Hamas IRL.  Some examples of his posts.

 

To ease your mind:

 

Despite all the lies Israel fabricated about October 7, like the 30 babies and gang rapes, what Hamas really did on that day was a horrible and unforgiveable crime and they deserve to be hanged by their balls and burned to crisps for that.

 

They have forever lost their right to be considered freedom fighters and any real Muslim, who was a member of them would have had no other choice than to immediately revoke his allegiance to them and beg the families of the victims for forgiveness after he had heard of the abominations his comrades committed. (only if he had no part in or previous knowledge of the attacks; in any other case ball hanging and burning).  

 

Now answer my questions please

 

22 hours ago, Somjot said:

If Israels` intention only was the elimination of Hamas, then ...

... why slaughter the world`s kitchen workers?

... why murder Hind Rajab

... why murder and bury the 15 aid workers?

... why intentionally shoot children in the head, chest or abdomen?

... why target children with drones?

... why keep stealing their land and selling it even before the war is over?

... why eliminate medics and journalists?

... why pay billions to buy US politicians via AIPAC

If Israel only wants to end terrorism and live peacefully next to their neighbors, why do they keep stealing land in the Westbank?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

Iran is most explicitly antisemitic country in the world, while  the others on the list tend to various degrees of antisemitism.  

 

 

This is absolutely untrue.

 

Iran opposes Israel because of the occupation, murder and land theft. It is anti Zionist.

 

Iran is not anti-semitic. Many Jews used to live there and some still do, completely unharmed.

 

Have you ever been to Iran?

 

On 10/3/2025 at 8:27 PM, gargamon said:

Yes, I condemn the Oct 7th attack. But it does not justify genocide of the Palestinians and the stealing of their land. Netanyahu needs to be locked up in the Hague.

Really, the Palestinians are the only people in history who have under gone genocide who get to negotiate a peace treaty.  Weird. 

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