5 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

 

You may pay for the bill at the restaurant and maybe she will then pay for a meal she has cooked with wine etc at her place, there are no set rules. 

 

 

 

It's virtually guranteed that the most generous woman will NOT be the one with the business and a lot of money, but the poor domestic helper.

 

I had one who offered to pay half of my new couch if she moves in with me, obviously I didn't take her up on the offer. But still, she offered. No business woman would ever do that.

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

There are many different types of women in the world, not just the stereotypes in your head. 

 

There is not a set of predefined rules to follow. 

 

You may pay for the bill at the restaurant and maybe she will then pay for a meal she has cooked with wine etc at her place, there are no set rules. 

 

There should be fun and laughter involved as well, it is not all about money. 

In the context of dating a Thai woman in Thailand, not around the world where I used to share the cost on dates unless the girl was student, single mom or there where natural I paid for the date. Even my uni long time gf insisted of paying her share of food and regular bills while we lived together. But I still paid for holidays and other things, that I wanted to do, because I made good money at the time. I lived in cheaper facilities so she could feel good about her self, but I wasn’t willing to go on cheaper holidays, therefore I paid. I also bought a new car we both used, and paid the bills on the car. 

 

Everything has its time, just saying expecting a thai woman to pay for a date? Is not a good investment 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

In the context of dating a Thai woman in Thailand, not around the world where I used to share the cost on dates unless the girl was student, single mom or there where natural I paid for the date. Even my uni long time gf insisted of paying her share of food and regular bills while we lived together. But I still paid for holidays and other things, that I wanted to do, because I made good money at the time. I lived in cheaper facilities so she could feel good about her self, but I wasn’t willing to go on cheaper holidays, therefore I paid. I also bought a new car we both used, and paid the bills on the car. 

 

Everything has its time, just saying expecting a thai woman to pay for a date? Is not a good investment 

 

I agree apart from where I am suppose to have said I expect a woman to pay for a date and that it was an investment, show me where I wrote that.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

As is the inclination to be adventurous. If they are that way inclined they are also even more ilkely to cheat. Thrill seeking.

 

That's why I'm saying, it's best if she has a profession, a work, that keeps her busy, so you only have to do that a few days a week.

Mine doesn't get bored even when not working, but she works 9 to 6, 6 days a week for a real estate development company, so I have a lot of personal space.

 

You said you're young? How young is that? I'm now 66 and I've had enough adventure. I prefer a more mature partner in her 30s without children. At 34, she has perfect skin and still looks 20-something, though, and she trains in my gym too, to keep her body in perfect condition. After my divorce in 2023, I had a few trials, including a few in their 20s (24 and 26) and also some in their early 40s. It takes some experimentation to get it right LOL. 

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

In the context of dating a Thai woman in Thailand, not around the world where I used to share the cost on dates unless the girl was student, single mom or there where natural I paid for the date. Even my uni long time gf insisted of paying her share of food and regular bills while we lived together. But I still paid for holidays and other things, that I wanted to do, because I made good money at the time. I lived in cheaper facilities so she could feel good about her self, but I wasn’t willing to go on cheaper holidays, therefore I paid. I also bought a new car we both used, and paid the bills on the car. 

 

Everything has its time, just saying expecting a thai woman to pay for a date? Is not a good investment 

My current girlfriend will often insist on paying the entire restaurant bill when we go out. The other day we went for dinner with her father and partner, and she paid the whole bill. She wouldn't take my money. 

As usual, a fair spread of opinions. Bar girls, ex-bar, 'normal' Thai girls have all paid for me when going out on dates. 

That happens when they actually like and want to be with you.

The reason why people such as @Cameroni pay, is that they don't particularly like him. It's just a business arrangement. Money and shopping for sex or some such. Just an exchange of convenience. There's no love nor mutual respect. Purely transactional.

 

The previous date I had with a 24 year old cost me nothing. We just shared what I would order for myself anyway. Similarly my date with a 28 year old. We shared a Mango and Sticky Rice from my favourite vendor, Mae Sai Thong. 100 baht for a large portion. We ate off the same plate. Both girls Russian. 

 

That's the difference with being with someone who likes you or you paying for someone you want.

7 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Mine doesn't get bored even when not working, but she works 9 to 6, 6 days a week for a real estate development company, so I have a lot of personal space.

 

You said you're young? How young is that? I'm now 66 and I've had enough adventure. I prefer a more mature partner in her 30s without children. At 34, she has perfect skin and still looks 20-something, though, and she trains in my gym too, to keep her body in perfect condition. After my divorce in 2023, I had a few trials, including a few in their 20s (24 and 26) and also some in their early 40s. It takes some experimentation to get it right LOL. 

 

I'm 54. Yes, the set up you have is ideal, she should be working to occupy herself and convince herself she's doing something useful. Idle hands are the devil's playground.

 

No children is an absoute must again, good call.

 

It does take experimentation for sure. Whilst women are in their physical peak 18 to 23, of course younger girls come with a host of other issues that are not looks related. Granted a girl in her 30s can still look good, but how good did she look at 22? Better for sure. Obviously looks are superficial, and they will disappear, however, when I saw this old English guy at Big C today with his horrendous old Thai grannie, I have to say, a line has to be drawn somewhere.

 

Looks are important, even if superficial and transitory, not saying character is not important, it is, but only AFTER attraction is a given.

 

Sounds like a nice setup. Good luck to you.

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

 

The reason why people such as @Cameroni pay, is that they don't particularly like him.

 

You all pay, especially you, JakeC, you lying POS.

 

Nobody partiularly likes men, but some men are disliked more than others.

@Cameroni By your reply(and general behaviour on this board) I can fully understand why you have to pay and why they might not like you. But, believe me here...not everyone is like you. My girls LOVE me. Yours do not. Not even as their substitute father.

5 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Cameroni By your reply(and general behaviour on this board) I can fully understand why you have to pay and why they might not like you. But, believe me here...not everyone is like you. My girls LOVE me. Yours do not. Not even as their substitute father.

 

Your own mother probably didn't like you.

See @Cameroni Just a nasty person.

My mum LOVES me. I guess yours wouldn't be too impressed at your hiring of nasty girls (with herpes even) and calling them your girlfriend. I guess you keep the truth hidden. I don't need to do that. My girl supports my mum almost every day. That's how it is when you have genuine relationships. Yours is everything but that.

Again, not everyone is like you. But you try to paint everyone with the same brush to make yourself feel better. Then get nasty when the truth is revealed.

You pay because you want to possess. To own. I set them free.

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

See @Cameroni Just a nasty person.

My mum LOVES me. I guess yours wouldn't be too impressed at your hiring of nasty girls (with herpes even) and calling them your girlfriend. I guess you keep the truth hidden. I don't need to do that. My girl supports my mum almost every day. That's how it is when you have genuine relationships. Yours is everything but that.

Again, not everyone is like you. But you try to paint everyone with the same brush to make yourself feel better. Then get nasty when the truth is revealed.

You pay because you want to possess. To own. I set them free.

So you're still in Australia living with your mom.

Just as we always thought!

@BritManToo Australia? Are you mentally ill?

 

Simple minds...

13 minutes ago, JakeC said:

My mum LOVES me.

 

How much are you paying her?

@Cameroni My mum would not even accept money from my dad. Different upbringing. Different outcome.

 

It's okay. Live your life as you want. But do not fool yourself that it is the only or even best way. You are just an ATM and you know it.

45 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

My current girlfriend will often insist on paying the entire restaurant bill when we go out. The other day we went for dinner with her father and partner, and she paid the whole bill. She wouldn't take my money. 

Then she is investing in you, not that hard, and you should be flattered. You might equalize in the long end by far. There is genuine women out there, even some claims there is not

@Hummin As an aside, the most equitable women are usually Scandinavian. German women also insist on paying their way. Russian women often expect the man to pay for everything. Boring. I buck that trend. Thai women often buy gifts and spend on their men.

 

8 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Cameroni My mum would not even accept money from my dad. Different upbringing. Different outcome.

 

It's okay. Live your life as you want. But do not fool yourself that it is the only or even best way. You are just an ATM and you know it.

 

Yes, anyone can be an ATM, I would keep it quiet though if I was desperate enough to be one.

47 minutes ago, JakeC said:

As usual, a fair spread of opinions. Bar girls, ex-bar, 'normal' Thai girls have all paid for me when going out on dates. 

That happens when they actually like and want to be with you.

The reason why people such as @Cameroni pay, is that they don't particularly like him. It's just a business arrangement. Money and shopping for sex or some such. Just an exchange of convenience. There's no love nor mutual respect. Purely transactional.

 

The previous date I had with a 24 year old cost me nothing. We just shared what I would order for myself anyway. Similarly my date with a 28 year old. We shared a Mango and Sticky Rice from my favourite vendor, Mae Sai Thong. 100 baht for a large portion. We ate off the same plate. Both girls Russian. 

 

That's the difference with being with someone who likes you or you paying for someone you want.

As long you do the same as every other Thais do, then you are equally same same as a local. When I was in my prime, no girls did ask for money, but always left some by coincidence either in their purse or table, and also by mistake wanted to give "taxi money" to some I obviously mistaken for a night club freelancer, or I knew was one, and getting a shy I'm not like that, or some verbal abuse. 

 

Most girls wants something, either by investing in you, and look for a long term relationship, or call it taxi money. Not always black and white

3 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Hummin As an aside, the most equitable women are usually Scandinavian. German women also insist on paying their way. Russian women often expect the man to pay for everything. Boring. I buck that trend. Thai women often buy gifts and spend on their men.

 

I agree 👍 

 

And those Thai woman who had a big sponsor, often liked to show off as well. As said there is as many ways or they comes in many ways, and interacting different from person to person. But In the end, they expect something. 

Actually @JamesPhuket10 I think it's better for him to be honest and to get feedback. Otherwise, how do we learn? No one is perfect, we learn from experience. 

 

Some women just want someone to walk alongside. They have respect for themselves and want someone of whom they can feel equal respect. 

@Hummin I agree that there are many ways...That's why it's unacceptable to paint women as all the same. Similarly men. That's just blinkers some people use so that they don't have to face the truth.

15 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@Hummin I agree that there are many ways...That's why it's unacceptable to paint women as all the same. Similarly men. That's just blinkers some people use so that they don't have to face the truth.

 

True.

 

If we say we do not pay for women as in hiring them, some guys say we are telling lies or are blind to it, they have to do that in order for them to justify why they are paying girls long time for being with them. 

 

What I think is strange is they accuse all women of being like their 'partner', don't they realise they are including their own mother, sisters, aunties etc of therefore being like that too. 

On 9/29/2025 at 4:12 PM, BritManToo said:

16 years later still batpoop crazy.

so she's 30 now?

@JamesPhuket10 Every time I met a girl, I would keep in mind how I would want someone to treat a sister/female from my own family. Easy. Like a person, rather than a piece of meat. Even if I was seriously attracted to them. Person first, sex afterwards(maybe). Result, deeper connection. When you go for sex first, you often don't even know the person.

For me, it has to be someone whom I feel I can trust implicitly. No question in my mind. If in doubt, get out.

 

I'm reasonably confident that i can send a message to even my exes to place 100k in my bank account and it will be done without question.

 

Woman with self respect or who want to respect themselves will not ask for nor expect money to be handed over. I am not their father, but a partner...which incidentally, can be all things. As there may be times when you are called upon to play almost any role.  Loving and adaptable within reason. Best friends or forget about it.

 

3 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@JamesPhuket10 Every time I met a girl, I would keep in mind how I would want someone to treat a sister/female from my own family. Easy. Like a person, rather than a piece of meat. Even if I was seriously attracted to them. Person first, sex afterwards(maybe). Result, deeper connection. When you go for sex first, you often don't even know the person.

For me, it has to be someone whom I feel I can trust implicitly. No question in my mind. If in doubt, get out.

 

I'm reasonably confident that i can send a message to even my exes to place 100k in my bank account and it will be done without question.

 

Woman with self respect or who want to respect themselves will not ask for nor expect money to be handed over. I am not their father, but a partner...which incidentally, can be all things. As there may be times when you are called upon to play almost any role.  Loving and adaptable within reason. Best friends or forget about it.

 

Rather say, I want someone who respect me for who I am, and be my lover and best friend, which means mutual respect and mutual benefits in one way or another.

 

There is so much damaged goods out there, and what people want, is not necessary what attracts them, and becomes the glue in a relationship. Again to many varieties to even understand 

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I just say what works for me and how it works. That money is not the glue is my relationships, but love and respect. If you have a good relationship and money too, even better. But always, relationship first.

 

Don't start your relationship trying to impress the girl. If you are worthy, you can connect with people without money being the object. Of course many don't have much confidence in themselves and feel the need to bring everything down to their level, rather than keeping the highest standards.

 

Incidentally, that's how I first remember @Hummin. In a similar conversation a while back he wrote about the discipline needed to keep those standards. First impressions last. Start off good.

 

18 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@JamesPhuket10 Every time I met a girl, I would keep in mind how I would want someone to treat a sister/female from my own family. Easy. Like a person, rather than a piece of meat. Even if I was seriously attracted to them. Person first, sex afterwards(maybe). Result, deeper connection. When you go for sex first, you often don't even know the person.

For me, it has to be someone whom I feel I can trust implicitly. No question in my mind. If in doubt, get out.

 

I'm reasonably confident that i can send a message to even my exes to place 100k in my bank account and it will be done without question.

 

Woman with self respect or who want to respect themselves will not ask for nor expect money to be handed over. I am not their father, but a partner...which incidentally, can be all things. As there may be times when you are called upon to play almost any role.  Loving and adaptable within reason. Best friends or forget about it.

 

 

Well we have all sorts of relationships with women during our lives.

 

When I was young and good looking, I had no problem finding girl friends, I had a reputation for it.

 

Women are human too and also like to party when young, so sometimes sex on the same night after meeting at a party etc was a two way thing with no strings attached.

 

Then at some point you meet a woman, sometimes by chance, or you are introduced by friends,  where feelings are different and you want to see where things go.

 

I suppose some guys did not go through that process, they were only with women due to money and so do not have a balance view of women.

 

But it works out of course, the guy gets the paid for sex and the woman gets what she wants, but  that is not for me though.