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We asked 1,000 Americans who they blame for the shutdown

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7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Prove it.

Prove what? 

 

Do you have no idea how the US government works? 

 

Do you even know what a continuing resolution is?

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5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Prove what? 

 

 

Identify the bill in question. The one you claimed passed with Democratic support.

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Identify the bill in question. The one you claimed passed with Democratic support.

My bad, I'll rephrase:

 

The provisions that Biden got it to fund illegal alien healthcare removed permanently in a bill earlier that passed earlier this year without Democrat support.

 

The left has now shut the government down, in an attempt to change legislation that has ALREADY been passed. 

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1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

My bad, I'll rephrase:

 

The provisions that Biden got it to fund illegal alien healthcare removed permanently in a bill earlier that passed earlier this year without Democrat support.

 

The left has now shut the government down, in an attempt to change legislation that has ALREADY been passed. 

Name the bill. 

6 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Name the bill. 

 H.R.1 — 119th Congress (2025-2026)

12 hours ago, angryguy said:

Less government is a good thing. They should do it more often the country will be fine

Government workers keeps societies together, even in Rural places for good and bad. But there is a critical crossing point for to few and to many

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

My bad, I'll rephrase:

 

The provisions that Biden got it to fund illegal alien healthcare removed permanently in a bill earlier that passed earlier this year without Democrat support.

 

The left has now shut the government down, in an attempt to change legislation that has ALREADY been passed. 

It's not accurate, of course!

 

What the Republican removed was not for illegal aliens, but for lawfully present aliens.

 

Mogandave would have known that! 🙂

22 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The Post’s poll finds significantly more Americans blame President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans for the shutdown than Democrats, though many say they are not sure. People express moderate concern about the shutdown’s impact at this early stage, with “somewhat concerned” the most common answer. A large majority support Democrats’ call to extend federal health insurance subsidies in general, though just under half support the party demanding this if it extends the government shutdown.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2025/government-shutdown-trump-congress-poll/

 

71% say federal subsidies for the Affordable Care Act should be extended. If the Democrats are smart, they'll hold out for a week, to make as many Americans as possible know about how the Republicans are knifing health care. And then they'll vote to pass the budget extension.

 

Why do people think this?  If you look at the facts the Democrats voted against keeping the government open.   Do people intentionally ignore the facts or fall for the DNC propaganda. 
 

Schumer wanted to shut down the government to please the far left.  Plus, he is scared of an AOC primary challenge.

5 minutes ago, candide said:

It's not accurate, of course!

 

Republicans did not vote against extending the Enhanced ACA credits in a direct up-or-down vote. Instead, they let them expire by excluding them from major legislation and refusing to consider Democratic proposals to renew them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/briancastrucci/2025/10/01/when-the-bill-comes-due-the-big-beautiful-bills-hidden-health-fallout/

 

Mogandave would have known that! 

At some point the growth of federal government needs to slow down.  It’s looks the federal government will send 6.6 trillion to 7 trillion this year.

8 minutes ago, candide said:

It's not accurate, of course!

 

What the Republican removed was not for illegal aliens, but for lawfully present aliens.

 

Mogandave would have known that! 🙂

You are not being honest. Republicans removed nothing, it was a "clean" continuing resolution that the Democrats voted against, shutting down the government. 

 

In any event, why should illegal aliens, or lawfully present aliens have their healthcare paid for by working American citizens?

 

 

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You are not being honest. Republicans removed nothing, it was a "clean" continuing resolution that the Democrats voted against, shutting down the government. 

 

In any event, why should illegal aliens, or lawfully present aliens have their healthcare paid for by working American citizens?

 

 

The Democrats have a propaganda machine that rivals Putin.

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Just now, TedG said:

The Democrats have a propaganda machine that rivals Putin.

Yes, but fortunately, it has lost all credibility. Only leftists living in the leftist bubble believe anything they say.

 

The left votes against keeping the government open, and they believe the right closed the government. 

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 H.R.1 — 119th Congress (2025-2026)

I don't  know whether or not there was anything about barring illegal aliens from enrolling in the ACA or Medicaid. There was certainlly no need to. That because illegal aliens already were not eligible. 

"Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded coverage including Medicaid, CHIP, or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the ACA Marketplaces."

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-facts-on-health-coverage-of-immigrants/

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1 hour ago, TedG said:

At some point the growth of federal government needs to slow down.  It’s looks the federal government will send 6.6 trillion to 7 trillion this year.

Good thing Trump didn't get passed massive tax cuts that would cut revenue and lead to an increase in the deficit.

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9 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

The ACA made health care so affordable, that it is necessary to extend government subsidies so that people can pay for it...

 

Time to put a sombrero on it.

White House Senses Political Risk on Healthcare Despite Shutdown Bravado

President Trump’s team is concerned Republicans will be blamed for allowing healthcare subsidies to expire, increasing costs for millions.

Ending subsidies would raise premiums for over 20 million people.

White House aides are discussing proposals to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies, but Trump hasn’t yet made a decision.

https://archive.ph/IdIpi

from December 2018 to October 2020 Belgium didn't have a government, worked out ok for them.

43 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Good thing Trump didn't get passed massive tax cuts that would cut revenue and lead to an increase in the deficit.

The issue with federal spending is the federal budget is growing faster than the GDP.  Try reading the CBO reports.

17 hours ago, Tug said:

Naa it’s just his malignantcy and bile playing with peoples lives and homes in his quest to kill healthcare in America.

What a bald-faced lie. Tell us exactly how Trump is trying to kill Healthcare in America.

3 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Ending subsidies would raise premiums for over 20 million people.

Democrat voters. Go out and get jobs with health insurance there are plenty out there. Oh wait, you probably already have them, professional protesting. Tell the Socialist Workers Party to give you insurance

7 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I don't  know whether or not there was anything about barring illegal aliens from enrolling in the ACA or Medicaid. There was certainlly no need to. That because illegal aliens already were not eligible. 

"Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded coverage including Medicaid, CHIP, or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the ACA Marketplaces."

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-facts-on-health-coverage-of-immigrants/

That's because you don't want to know. 

 

 

17 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

The ACA made health care so affordable, that it is necessary to extend government subsidies so that people can pay for it...

 

Time to put a sombrero on it.

It would be fine by me if it was replaced with something like Canada has….hummm???

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's because you don't want to know. 

 

 

They can’t it’s just another trump lie.

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6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's because you don't want to know. 

 

 

First off, you missed the point completely. Whether or not that issue was addressed is irrelevant. The fact is that illegal immigrants were already barred.  So it would make no difference. 

And the reason I don't know is that I couldn't find any evidence that your claim was true. Since you made that claim, prove it.  Although, even if you do, it wouldn't have changed anything regarding their access to Obamacare.

 

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

What a bald-faced lie. Tell us exactly how Trump is trying to kill Healthcare in America.

Pay attention to what this shutdown is about……killing health subsidies has been a republican priority since President Johnson days and the war on poverty.

19 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Republicans hold the majority.

 

Now let’s hear you explain how the minority are controlling the Government.

 

Give it your best shot.

 

  • Cloture requirement: In the Senate, most bills need 60 votes to invoke cloture (end debate) before a final vote. Without cloture, the bill cannot advance if there’s opposition.

  • Withholding support: Schumer and Senate Democrats refused to vote for cloture on the funding bill. This meant the bill could not reach the 60-vote threshold required to end debate.

  • Bill fails: Because cloture was not invoked, the Senate could not vote on the bill itself, effectively blocking it.

 

I'll wait for your reply. 

1 minute ago, Tug said:

They can’t it’s just another trump lie.

The bill I linked to has provisions that eliminated the subsidies for illegal aliens.

 

That the left wants illegal aliens to have free healthcare is not new, nor is it a secret, they've said it all along. 

 

It is only NOW they are claiming they don't. 

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Pay attention to what this shutdown is about……killing health subsidies has been a republican priority since President Johnson days and the war on poverty.

The health subsidies were met to be temporary.   The reason the dem did the shut down was to give red meat to their radical base. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

The bill I linked to has provisions that eliminated the subsidies for illegal aliens.

 

That the left wants illegal aliens to have free healthcare is not new, nor is it a secret, they've said it all along. 

 

It is only NOW they are claiming they don't. 

You are lying again 

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

First off, you missed the point completely. Whether or not that issue was addressed is irrelevant. The fact is that illegal immigrants were already barred.  So it would make no difference. 

And the reason I don't know is that I couldn't find any evidence that your claim was true. Since you made that claim, prove it.  Although, even if you do, it wouldn't have changed anything regarding their access to Obamacare.

 

Illegal aliens were barred from receiving free healthcare in the same way that were barred from entering the country, 

 

Where do you think illegal aliens are getting healthcare? 

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