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Vientiane: e-visa after 9 months in Thailand

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Hello everyone,

In a few weeks, I will have spent 9 months in Thailand:

  • e-visa + extension: 90 days

  • 2 nights in Vietnam, then 2-month exemption (Suvarnabhumi) + 30-day extension

  • 2 nights in Penang, then 2-month exemption (Padang Besar) + 30-day extension

My plan is to go to and stay in Vientiane long enough to apply for and obtain an e-visa. What are my chances of getting it?

Also, average processing time for a response from the Vientiane embassy?

For clarity, I plan to return to Thailand via the Nong Khai land border.

Thank you.

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  • Tod Daniels
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    That is 100% total nonsense 😞 you think that up on your own or ask an AI about it because it sure sounds like some garbage an AI answer would spit out 😉 

  • anotherfarangishere
    anotherfarangishere

    The point of applying for an SETV/e-visa in Vientiane is to mitigate the high risk of refusal at the Nong Khai land border. After nine months of continuous stay using multiple visa-exempt entries

  • Tod Daniels
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    I think you have your wires crossed more than a little bit.  After milking 9 months here on free entries and 30-day extensions I would say even if you bought a single entry tourist visa you are s

So 9 months continuous. 

What was first eVisa 60. Must have been tourist visa. 

Is the eVisa in Vientiane another tourist visa. 

Where are you located in Thailand. 

Plan should work. 

I would consider flight out/in to somewhere like Saigon using (safe entry service ~4k) 

 

Your history is IMO strange. 

Who goes to Vietnam for two nights

just for a bounce. 

What's the point of applying for an eVisa in Vientiane when a visa exempt entry gives you the same 60 days permission to stay?

14 minutes ago, Caldera said:

What's the point of applying for an eVisa in Vientiane when a visa exempt entry gives you the same 60 days permission to stay?

Only a guess... he perhaps thinks an eVisa will avoid any hassle at NK crossing. 

He first entered on an eVisa. 

Strange account

A tourist entry is a tourist entry.  You've spent 9 months in Thailand and you expect immigration to ignore that fact just because you have a piece of paper specifically saying you are a tourist?  I think your time is quickly running out in Thailand. You're well beyond the point of getting hassled and denied entry when you try to enter without a long-term visa.

You either need to use a land border bounce agency or you need to fly out and back using a safe-entry agent upon your arrival to guarantee entry.

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3 hours ago, Caldera said:

What's the point of applying for an eVisa in Vientiane when a visa exempt entry gives you the same 60 days permission to stay?

The point of applying for an SETV/e-visa in Vientiane is to mitigate the high risk of refusal at the Nong Khai land border.

After nine months of continuous stay using multiple visa-exempt entries and extensions, I am showing a pattern of over-reliance on border runs.

While an approved SETV does not completely eliminate the risk of being denied entry, it provides a much stronger argument than attempting a third consecutive visa-exempt entry.
 

The SETV is a pre-approved visa that provides a more solid legal basis for a 60-day stay (extendable to 90 days), giving me a more solid foundation for my longer stay, and effectively resetting the immigration clock.

1 hour ago, anotherfarangishere said:

The SETV is a pre-approved visa that provides a more solid legal basis for a 60-day stay (extendable to 90 days), giving me a more solid foundation for my longer stay, and effectively resetting the immigration clock.

 

I think you're mistaken with that assumption. As others have already said, better spend money on a safe entry service than on a tourist visa.

I'm surprised the OP is so nonchalant. I'm coming towards the end of 2 x VE60+30 and am worried about the next round. Wouldn't be so bad if the Cambodian land borders were open, and I could go with a visa run company, so the only option is to fly back in with safe entry, I guess 🤔

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2 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

I think you're mistaken with that assumption.

No, not at all: even if it doesn’t guarantee entry, it’s always better to have a visa than no visa, especially when the previous two entries were already visa exemptions.

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1 hour ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

I'm surprised the OP is so nonchalant.

I’m not nonchalant since I intend to get a visa. Moreover, I make sure to return to Thailand via a land border: a refusal is much easier to handle there than at an airport.

 

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You asked for advice, and when you received some very sound advice from people who have considerable expertise, you reject it. 

Your immigration record is in the computer for every immigration officer to see. That record will certainly raise a red flag, whether you have a visa or not.

It is, of course, your decision to make, but if you want to be sure of being admitted into Thailand again, the only safe course of action is to use the safe entry option.

 

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I think you have your wires crossed more than a little bit. 

After milking 9 months here on free entries and 30-day extensions I would say even if you bought a single entry tourist visa you are still of the exact demographic that immigration is looking for at passport control and you run a super high risk of being told you can't get in by land only air or denied entry outright.

 if all you're trying to do is get another 60 day entry, rather than being flippant to people who gave you solid advice, I would urge you to take their sage advice: either use a land border bounce company that guarantees you get out and back the same day, or use a safe entry company and fly out in back to get another visa exempt entry. 

Both of those have a lot better chance of achieving your goal (which appears to be getting another 60 day entry) than your hare brained "I'm going to go get an e Visa because it gives me a better chance to get in" idea. 

I will add you also run a risk of being denied a single entry tourist visa because of your previous extensive entry stay history.. 

Best of luck with it.. 

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3 hours ago, anotherfarangishere said:

I’m not nonchalant since I intend to get a visa. Moreover, I make sure to return to Thailand via a land border: a refusal is much easier to handle there than at an airport.

 

Why did you even start a thread. 

You have been given sound advice and are well aware of options. 

Seems like a look at me thread. 

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1 hour ago, Tod Daniels said:

After milking 9 months here on free entries and 30-day extensions I would say even if you bought a single entry tourist visa you are still of the exact demographic that immigration is looking for at passport control and you run a super high risk of being told you can't get in by land only air or denied entry outright.

Thanks for your comment, but your statement — like some other “from people who have considerable expertise” — loses credibility because it doesn’t match what I clearly detailed in my original post.
 

Regarding you: in 9 months I’ve only entered Thailand once by land. So, the real risk of being refused should come from the fact that I’ve already spent 9 months in Thailand, not from the mere fact of using a land border again with a visa.
 

From my recent experience, it is much easier to enter by land than at Suvarnabhumi or Don Mueang.
 

Now, if you have testimonies or evidence that even with a visa the Nong Khai border can very easily refuse entry for multiple reasons, I might reconsider my choice and work out a plan B to leave Vientiane for another destination instead of Thailand — or maybe try flying from Vientiane to Chiang Mai ?
 

Furthermore, as you said, it is indeed entirely possible that my tourist visa application will be refused — a possibility I have already considered and for which I also need a plan B.

 

Thanks again for your message and your good luck wishes.

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Just so you're aware, the Nong Khai border crossing, hands down the easiest crossing in all of Thailand for years is no longer that way. 

We've seen that crossing gradually tighten up since the visa exempt entry went from 30 days to 60 days back in July 2024.

When bouncing for a free stamp the time you need to spend in Lao is dictated by the crossing guard when you stamp out. 

Some people are told you can get out but you can't get back in by land, you have to fly. 

Some people have been told to show proof they're flying back to their country in 60 days. 

With your previous entry stay history, even with a valid tourist visa I'm doubtful you'd get in by land (or air for that matter) without "professional assistance" <- using a safe entry provider. 

If  you use a safe entry provider there's no reason to do the hoop jumping to get a single entry tourist visa. Something that will take between 3 and 5 business days too get approved thru the thai consulate in Vientiane via the online eVisa system.

Just contract with company for safe entry, fly out and fly right back in, you'll get a new 60 day visa exempt entry stamp no problem. 

Keep in mind, in the eyes of the thaiz at passport control and the embassies, with the entry/stay history you have you're about as far from a real tourist as you can throw a stick.. 

As I said earlier, best of luck with it, safe travels.

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All I do all day every day is keep up with entry/visa/extension stuff relating to the glorious "Land 'O Thaiz"..

 

I interact with agents, border bounce companies, immigration officers, thru out the country to keep up with what's what. 

 

Granted it's a limited skill set, but one that is useful, especially to people like yourself who've grown complacent because you have been able to milk so much time in country via 60 day free stamp entry w/30 day extensions. 

 

You don't have to believe anything I'm saying, don't have to take any of our advice (sound and up to date as it is).

 

We're not the one who's going to get hung up at passport control coming back in, you are  We're only offering out viable options and the possible risks you face. 

 

One final time, if all you're interested in is another 60 day entry, contract with a safe entry company to meet you when you fly back in, you'll skate thru immigrations are either Don Mueang or Suvarnabhumi without any questions.

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46 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

One final time, if all you're interested in is another 60 day entry, contract with a safe entry company to meet you when you fly back in, you'll skate thru immigrations are either Don Mueang or Suvarnabhumi without any questions.

Hi Tod,

Thanks again for your time and all the precisions.

No safe entry provider at Nong Khai ?

1 hour ago, anotherfarangishere said:

No safe entry provider at Nong Khai ?

Not that I am aware of. 

 

Unless I'm mistaken, they only do air entry: Don Mueang, Suvarnabhumi, Chiang Mai and Phuket.. 

On 10/4/2025 at 2:49 AM, anotherfarangishere said:

No, not at all: even if it doesn’t guarantee entry, it’s always better to have a visa than no visa, especially when the previous two entries were already visa exemptions.

You are correct it generally helps to have a "TR Visa" vs Visa Exempt.  This would have made sense for your 2nd entry, after an "extended" 1st entry.  Even with a TR-Visa, it would have been risky even for your 3rd entry, after yet another 90-day stay.  I would say you were lucky, with that last entry - but, it's a lottery, based on how many they have already denied that day; maybe their airport-jail was already full of other folks who don't know how things "really work," here.

 

It would be foolish to think that, after three 90-day stays - putting you well outside the "occasional visitor" category, which Immigration are forbidden to hassle - that Immigration will not hit you with a denied-entry, as punishment not paying them off via agent for "safe entry."  This is how IOs at the airport make most of their incomes.  It's why they applied for (and paid to get) their jobs.

 

Forget any notion of, "But, I'm not doing anything wrong.  My spending employs Thais!"  Never mind that denying you entry for "staying too much" is illegal under the Immigration Act.  And that "real tourist" bit some throw out is just silly, because there is no such definition in the law, and it is defined by What You Do - not "for how long" you do it.  Immigration could not care less about the well-being of Thais or "the law." A rational view and legal-terms are irrelevant within a corrupt system. 

 

My advice: Cover Your Backside with a Non-Immi Visa (but, not "ED" - unless entering by-land), or pay them off per-entry via their agent partners.  If unwilling to do this, at least minimize the potential nightmare, by entering by-land, so a denied-entry only means walking back to the other country, and canceling your exit stamp with them.  Land-borders are generally less likely to deny entry, if you stay out a few days (the longer the better) - but, given your longer-history on Tourist-entries this year, even this is problematic. 

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20 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

maybe their airport-jail was already full of other folks who don't know how things "really work," here.

 

It would be foolish to think that, after three 90-day stays - putting you well outside the "occasional visitor" category, which Immigration are forbidden to hassle - that Immigration will not hit you with a denied-entry, as punishment not paying them off via agent for "safe entry."  This is how IOs at the airport make most of their incomes.  It's why they applied for (and paid to get) their jobs.

 

Forget any notion of, "But, I'm not doing anything wrong.  My spending employs Thais!"  Never mind that denying you entry for "staying too much" is illegal under the Immigration Act.  And that "real tourist" bit some throw out is just silly, because there is no such definition in the law, and it is defined by What You Do - not "for how long" you do it.  Immigration could not care less about the well-being of Thais or "the law." A rational view and legal-terms are irrelevant within a corrupt system. 

 

My advice: Cover Your Backside with a Non-Immi Visa (but, not "ED" - unless entering by-land), or pay them off per-entry via their agent partners.  If unwilling to do this, at least minimize the potential nightmare, by entering by-land, so a denied-entry only means walking back to the other country, and canceling your exit stamp with them.  Land-borders are generally less likely to deny entry, if you stay out a few days (the longer the better) - but, given your longer-history on Tourist-entries this year, even this is problematic. 

 

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Many thanks, really, Rob, for your time.
 

"...maybe their airport-jail was already full of other folks who don't know how things "really work," here."
 

As I mentioned, I entered by land at Padang Besar.
 

"My advice: Cover Your Backside with a Non-Immi Visa"
 

That is also exactly what I indicated I want to do.
 

"...at least minimize the potential nightmare, by entering by-land, so a denied-entry only means walking back to the other country, and canceling your exit stamp with them."
 

I confess that I do not understand that at all. I was once sent back to Malaysia from DM; I had to urgently pay for a "Bangkok - KL" flight three times more expensive than the KL - Bangkok flight I had taken to come here. At Nong Khai, I would just have to pay for the bus to return to Vientiane.
 

Moreover, as you mention yourself:
 

"Land-borders are generally less likely to deny entry, if you stay out a few days (the longer the better)..."

That is also my experience.
 

"...but, given your longer-history on Tourist-entries this year, even this is problematic."

I am aware of this, which is why I am trying to measure the risk. The experience and testimony of someone in my situation, at the same border, would be useful to me.
 

Thanks again.

1 hour ago, anotherfarangishere said:

"...at least minimize the potential nightmare, by entering by-land, so a denied-entry only means walking back to the other country, and canceling your exit stamp with them."
 

I confess that I do not understand that at all. I was once sent back to Malaysia from DM; I had to urgently pay for a "Bangkok - KL" flight three times more expensive than the KL - Bangkok flight I had taken to come here. At Nong Khai, I would just have to pay for the bus to return to Vientiane.

Exactly, We agree on this - it is entering by air which carries that additional risk.  When a land-border IO says, "You must fly in," I consider that a set-up. 

I was told this story when leaving Thailand once, ignored this "advice," and re-entered by land at a different crossing w/o issue.  But, that was some years back, when there were more "trouble free" DIY entry-points. 

 

I avoided "van runs" because riding in a speeding-van, at 5AM, is a nauseating and cramped nightmare - even when it was only to Cambodia.  My comfortable "at your own pace" DIY trips cost more, but were worth it.  I would contact the service doing the runs to Nong-Khai / Vientiane - see if they can help with your entry "a-la-carte" - absent the van experience.

 

1 hour ago, anotherfarangishere said:

As I mentioned, I entered by land at Padang Besar.

Ok - thought that was only the 1st entry of the 3.  If you always entered by land, that is the same way I did it - albeit many years ago.

would appreciate a reference to one of the 'safe entry services', i did a search in the forum but didn't have much success (saw this thread).

 

this is for a friend (you can laugh but it is true), he's entered twice visa exempt and has done the 30 day extension on both.  a few months ago i started a thread about a guy who was looking for a visa of some sort to stay long term to assist his father - who had a medical event and was in a nursing home in Pattaya area.  the father passed on not long after i started that thread.  the son is still here and would like to stay some more.  i told him he should use the safe entry service for next visa run.  he's planning on another visa exempt + 30 day extension.

 

any help is appreciated.  thanks.

 

49 minutes ago, buick said:

  the son is still here and would like to stay some more.  i told him he should use the safe entry service for next visa run.  he's planning on another visa exempt + 30 day extension.

The link in my previous post was for safe entry services via air. 

BTW your friend does not have over the top history so approx 4-4.5k 

 

The same mob also have border run safe services. If that's suits him better. 

 

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52 minutes ago, buick said:

would appreciate a reference to one of the 'safe entry services',

Hands down the company that does the most safe entry is SWD Transport aka Thai Visa Service

www.thaivisaservice.com

 

Most of the companies that advertise safe entry just take a cut and run their people thru SWD <- the company that has the connections at the airport 😉

 

Also SWD bounces from Bangkok to the Lao border 3 times a week and even people with extensive entry stay history can get out and right back in for a new 60 day free stamp entry with them

 

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Keep in mind a tourist visa isn't gonna get you back in magically after milking 9 months here already. 

 

Tourist visa doesn't mean you can't be denied entry, all it means is if they let you in they have to give you the 60 days the Visa allows you. 

 

Just so everyone is clear I believe last week at all the international airports almost 7,000 people were denied entry.

 

Now in reality that is a very small number compared to how many people stamped in to Thailand last week (probably close to 100k people a day) 

 

Most of the people that were denied entry were trying to milk another free stamp 60 day entry stamp after having gotten complacent being here on those stamps for an extended period of time.

 

It also appears that several days out of the country doesn't cut any ice with immigrations when entering by air, if you already have an extensive entry stay history.

 

Just use a safe entry company and fly out and back, or bounce by land with a border bounce company that can get you in and out without any issues.

 

It's these "I'm going to bounce myself and save a bunch of money" ideas that run people right off the rails..

 

 

Tod Daniels, you state 7,000 people refused entry in a week. That is a very specific number to state, I presume you have access to Thailand immigration departments computer data!🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

2 hours ago, ivorsmile said:

I presume

You can presume whatever you want. 

 🙂😉 😮 😛 

 

I said "I believe" 

 

It sounds like you have a good grasp on the Thai immigration system. A lot of people commenting here don't actually have recent experience doing visa runs. I would NOT recommend an Airport Safe Entry as that is completely corrupt and ridiculous. 

 

The land borders immigration officers have received a directive that they must crack down on visa runners but often they don't care. They know it's because the TAT wants to sell more Elite visas and they know that if they reject you and say fly to BKK you will pay a Safe entry fee. The immigration officers at land borders don't see any of that money, it only flows to the officers at BKK and DMK. The female PM being removed and declining tourist numbers may help also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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