Hi

 

hope someone can help.

 

i would like you extend my non o single entry visa for 60 days based on visiting my Thai child. Wanting to know what paperwork i need to take to chaeng wattana tomorrow.

 

i was planning to extend for 12 months as i have everything including the 400k in a Thai bank but have recently found out because im not married to the mother even we are in a relationship that I possibly need a kor 11 to get the one year extension, even the mother consents im the father and my name is on the child’s birth certificate.

 

 

If you were not married when the child was born then you have no parental rights.  You must go through family court (a long process) if the child is young, or you must get something done at the amphur if the child is older.

But just having a Thai child is not basis for a 1-year extension.  You need to have custody and be raising the child.  You do not get to live in Thailand just on the basis of knocking up a Thai lady.

 

The basis for a 60 day visiting Thai family extension would require the child to be with you.  I'm not sure if you're required to have parental rights or not for that extension.  Hopefully someone else can provide that information.

 Unfortunately just having your name on the birth certificate doesn't grant you any parental rights as the father in thailand (it doesn't for foreigners OR thai fathers who have children out of wedlock) 100% of the parental rights is granted to the mother is those situations 

In order to receive a year extension based on raising a thai child (that was born out of wedlock) you need to either go thru family court and get granted legal parental rights by decree, OR if the child is old enough (usually at least 6 y/o) you can go to the local Amphur (City Hall) and get it granted that way

Now even though you don't have legal parental rights and can't get the year extension you CAN get the 60 day "visit thai family" extension one time 🙂

You need 
copies of;
data page of your passport 
entry stamp
TM30 showing you're registered as staying in bangkok
PDF print out of the Non-O visa 
mother's thai i/d 
mother's house book listing 
birth certificate
(maybe your lease, landlord thai i/d and house book)   

A filled out TM7 application for extension of stay, a passport sized photo and 1900baht 

You would go to section L-1 at Chaengwattana, the section that does marriage/retirement/raising thai children extensions  

Edit: it goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway) you also need the child and the thai mother to go with you 🙂 

Thanks for the replies

 

Yes that’s what I thought about the one year visa regarding kor 11 or court order. So seems like I’ll have to just extend for 60 days then leave and apply for another non o  then extend. I’ll hit 50 in 12 months time so just switch to a retirement which seems a lot less hassle.

 

Todd, thanks for letting me know all the documentation I need to take to immigration tomorrow. Will start to get them photocopied today.

 

The only thing I don’t have is house book but I have a copy of it which shows the mothers and child’s names registered to it. 
 

would that be ok ?

I have another question.

 

if i was to leave thailand every 5 months to apply for a new non o single entry visa. Is this ok and won’t create any problems at the borders. I was thinking to use Vientianes evisa service. I will have to do 2 or possibly 3 new non o before I can get the over 50s retirement visa.

 

cheers 

40 minutes ago, Louis100 said:

If i was to leave thailand every 5 months to apply

a new non o single entry visa. Is this ok and won’t create any problems at the borders

I understand the plan and it's an option. 

You could also a consider a mix with other options such as a METV. 

Seems you only have approx a year or so till you turn 50 and can apply for Non O (retirement) 

The Non O retirement is good option as does not involve Thai child or mother. 

Yes METV could be another option thanks.

 

just main concern is if immigration can still refuse entry even you have a visa. They might see lots of non o visas as abuse. Like why not get a year extension. 

maybe im over thinking and worrying to much.

 

i just cant wait until I hit 50 an agent to help me rather than all this stress.

 

👍

2 hours ago, Louis100 said:

i just cant wait until I hit 50 an agent to help me rather than all this stress.

Just my take... When you are 50 then clear easy option. 

Non O retirement. 

Use an agent or DIY. Up to you. 

 

In meantime be creative

Many ways to stay I Thailand with mix of visa exempt and visas. 

Or even spend more time out of Thailand. 

Vietnam is my personal favorite. 

 

I would consider spending a month in whatever country you leave to each time, in order to break up the requests and limit you to 2 applications.

 

Non-O plus 60 means about 5 months.  You said you need to make it 12 more months.

 

So 5 months + 1 month in Vietnam, applying for non-O, 5 months, another month somewhere while you wait for 50 years old and then apply for non-O on retirement instead of child.

Back when the nearby Thai consulates were walk up applications, I know people who were fathers of Thai children but didn't have legal parental rights who would go and get a 90-day single entry non-ovisa based on Thai child, come in get the 90 days take the one 60 day visit family extension and go get another 90 day non o

They did this over and over every 5 months without any hiccup at all.. 

Now whether the same can be done at the nearby consulates on the the e Visa system, I do not know. 

To answer your question @Louis100
You only need copies of the house book listings, not the book itself.

Only problem is I have 2 children under 2 so impossible to stay away to long. 
 

That’s why original plan was 1 year extension until I found out it’s not possible.

 

might have to do a non o with extension. Then fly out next time and pay a for a safe entry. Then after that go get a non o again for child then an agent can sort out the rest once I’m 50 next September.

 

thought about METV but surely going from non o to METV to non o again may raise eyebrows.

Apparently there is an option to extend 1 year after extending the one time 60 days?

 

spoke to an agent who said it’s possible.

 

my situation 

 

current non o stamp ends November 6th

extend 60 days so say January 6th

 

leave to Laos and apply for new non o

 

lets say enter January 10th so gives me until about June 10th with 60 day extension 

 

leave again June and apply non o again 

Let’s say enter June 15th so I can stay until mid September.

 

Ill hit 50 on September 26th

 

so ill need to extend a further 60 days then in that time go see an agent so they can switch me to a retirement and get another 1 year without leaving.

 

sounds like my best plan if everything goes as planned.

9 minutes ago, Louis100 said:

Apparently there is an option to extend 1 year after extending the one time 60 days?

 

Yes, it's possible to extend for the 1-year after the "visiting Thai Family" but I'm not sure that you would normally be allowed to apply for a retirement extension when you entered on a non-O based on having a Thai child.  Normally you're only allowed to apply for the first annual extension if it's based on the same reason as your non-O visa.

But I'm not sure if the 60 day "Visiting Thai Family" extension clears our the visa entry and allows you to apply for any relevant extension.

But if you are planning on using an agent, none of that matters.  They can do things that aren't possible to you and I.

8 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

But if you are planning on using an agent, none of that matters.  They can do things that aren't possible to you and I.

yes think it’s the best solution. They said she can change and extend when I’m already on my 60 day extension in September 

 

Works out best for many people 😎

3 minutes ago, BrandonJT said:

Normally you're only allowed to apply for the first annual extension if it's based on the same reason as your non-O visa

That's correct and thinking for the first extension it would need to be based on Thai child. 

He could re jig his plan. 

Personally I would be trying to pad out (even with visa exempt) in order to have last Non O to be based on retirement. 

 

I’ve already put 400k in a Thai bank for no reason. Don’t want to add another 400k and do retirement when an agent can help me to make my life much easier.

13 minutes ago, Louis100 said:

I’ve already put 400k in a Thai bank for no reason. Don’t want to add another 400k and do retirement when an agent can help me to make my life much easier.

Nothing stopping you using an agent. 

Marriage would have made things more simple. 

Anyway thanks for all the help guys

 

much appreciated 👍

On 10/8/2025 at 11:24 AM, Louis100 said:

Hi

 

hope someone can help.

 

i would like you extend my non o single entry visa for 60 days based on visiting my Thai child. Wanting to know what paperwork i need to take to chaeng wattana tomorrow.

 

i was planning to extend for 12 months as i have everything including the 400k in a Thai bank but have recently found out because im not married to the mother even we are in a relationship that I possibly need a kor 11 to get the one year extension, even the mother consents im the father and my name is on the child’s birth certificate.

 

 

Very difficult to get a birth certificate if you have left it a long time, will need consent from the mother and possibly DNA test., did you not get a birth certificate when the child was born, I used to get Non O visa with my sons birth certificate and his Thai passport which I got when he was born, but The embassy said the longer you leave it the harder it will be, she said we probably will ask for DNA.