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If you want to know why Israel is so adamant about ending Hamas

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2 minutes ago, angryguy said:

If you vote reform then i assume you are pro trump?

Mostly, yes. I dislike his ME policy but he’s been bought by Miriam Adelsons $400 million. Why are you so divisive? Just because you vote Trump doesn’t mean you can’t disagree with him on some things.

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  • JBChiangRai
    JBChiangRai

    AI has this to say about that site.  I didn't look at the site by the way.  We all know what happened, attempts to portray pro-Israeli justification for genocide are not useful right now.  

  • Wow, what a surprise. A website that shows in graphic detail the crimes of Hamas centres exclusively on Hamas-perpetrated violence on October 7. Whoda thunk it?    Yes, it is a memorial and

  • JBChiangRai
    JBChiangRai

    Nonsense, it's anything but that simple.

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6 minutes ago, JimCM said:

Mostly, yes. I dislike his ME policy but he’s been bought by Miriam Adelsons $400 million. Why are you so divisive? Just because you vote Trump doesn’t mean you can’t disagree with him on some things.

Its not like anyone else would have handled it better. The war started under Biden

9 minutes ago, angryguy said:

It’s not like anyone else would have handled it better. The war started under Biden

The Adelsons gave Trump hundreds of millions to get an embassy in Jerusalem.

Granted, most of Bidens cabinet were Jews.

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9 hours ago, JimCM said:

Firstly, you lied and your videos show absolutely no street party while a raped women was paraded.

You said lots of 5 year olds were killed when it was 4 in total under 6 years old and two babies. Before you said babies were beheaded, which is another lie.

As I said, one shows some people running after a car and the other shows 8 people putting their arms in the air, again no women.

Now you post a video of a women in a car, with no evidence she was raped and again no street party. Possible menstrual stains.

The other video is IDF soldiers, and again no evidence of rape and no street party.

You are exaggerating to the extreme, suggesting that many are celebrating, when they are not, a maximum of 8 people in one video but the video is unreliable about what they are celebrating.

I understand you feel an affiliation to the Jewish state, or maybe it is a requirement, but stop spreading false information.

Most people in Gaza were born into a prison camp and frankly, I could understand them beating up IDF soldiers who have been their prison guards for decades. You can't treat people like animals, have a blockade, regularly mow the lawn, shoot them in the legs and boast about it when they have a peaceful demonstration unarmed(which you chose not to deny or condemn). and not expect them to rebel, breakout their confinement.

 

Btw, do you think of Nat Turner's slave revolt? Was he a terrorist or freedom fighter? Should the blacks in your country have remained oppressed?

Sometimes you just need to put the shovel down, Jim. As for Nat Turner, not my country, nice try.

 

I showed many videos of disgraceful behavior by Gazans and by Hamas, and the best you can do is to move the goalposts and say, "it wasn't THAT bad...."   and "menstrual stains" as an excuse for gang rape.  It is almost as if you are a parody.

 

"A woman in a car".  Is that how you would describe that particular video? No, a hostage being sent to further humiliation and possible death, surrounded by baying dogs.  

9 hours ago, JimCM said:

Wow, you’re certainly not Muslim. What religion are you or were your parents ?

What does that have do do with anyhting? Typical neo national socialist question.

 

Hell thats a Stalinist question. 

 

Hey your mentors are showing LOL

9 hours ago, JimCM said:

understand they must be in a quandary as they’re expected to support Israel.

And they will. They havbe to. They have no choice. You lost.

8 hours ago, JimCM said:

I dislike his ME policy but he’s been bought by Miriam Adelsons $400 million.

Shes your boss hahahahaha.

9 hours ago, angryguy said:

If you vote reform then i assume you are pro trump?

Reform and most other parties in Europe rely on Jew hating, except maybe the AfD

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Reform and most other parties in Europe rely on Jew hating, except maybe the AfD

So the UK seems <deleted> no matter what, from my view

13 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Are you having a conversation with yourself again about me stalker?

No, but it is hilarious how you have no reply, yet again, only the stalking thing..........😂

11 hours ago, JimCM said:

Firstly, you lied and your videos show absolutely no street party while a raped women was paraded.

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You are exaggerating to the extreme, suggesting that many are celebrating, when they are not, a maximum of 8 people in one video but the video is unreliable about what they are celebrating.

 

@JimCM  Do you consider the pics and videos below as exaggerations?  Do you now see the street celebrations?

 

The  parading of Shani Louk after her rape and murder.  She was a 22-year-old pacifist who had been granted conscientious objector status by the Israeli authorities.  She was noted for being very sympathetic of Palestinians.

 

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Notice the kid in the video spitting on her body.  I hope he got a bullet through the knee.

 

 

The first part of the video  below the pic has been posted in this thread,  I skipped ahead to the street celebrations with more than eight people.

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Hamas loading wounded civilians in the back of a truck.  Horrific.

 

 

 

 

Two elderly women hostages paraded before a crowd.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

@JimCM  Do you consider the pics and videos below as exaggerations?  Do you now see the street celebrations?

 

The  parading of Shani Louk after her rape and murder.  She was a 22-year-old pacifist who had been granted conscientious objector status by the Israeli authorities.  She was noted for being very sympathetic of Palestinians.

 

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Notice the kid in the video spitting on her body.  I hope he got a bullet through the knee.

 

 

 

The first part of the video  below the pic has been posted in this thread,  I skipped ahead to the street celebrations with more than eight people.

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Hamas loading wounded civilians in the back of a truck.  Horrific.

 

 

 

 

 

Two elderly women hostages paraded before a crowd.

 

 

 

Savages.

 

I guess she was just a "woman in a truck". Who voluntarily tore her own clothes off and eagerly submitted to the brave freedom fighters of Hamas... Then decided to kill herself as a martyr afterwards.

 

The blindness of some people...

 

 

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

@JimCM  Do you consider the pics and videos below as exaggerations?  Do you now see the street celebrations?

 

The  parading of Shani Louk after her rape and murder.  She was a 22-year-old pacifist who had been granted conscientious objector status by the Israeli authorities.  She was noted for being very sympathetic of Palestinians.

 

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Notice the kid in the video spitting on her body.  I hope he got a bullet through the knee.

 

 

 

The first part of the video  below the pic has been posted in this thread,  I skipped ahead to the street celebrations with more than eight people.

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Hamas loading wounded civilians in the back of a truck.  Horrific.

 

 

 

 

 

Two elderly women hostages paraded before a crowd.

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Savages.

 

I guess she was just a "woman in a truck". Who voluntarily tore her own clothes off and eagerly submitted to the brave freedom fighters of Hamas... Then decided to kill herself as a martyr afterwards.

 

The blindness of some people...

 

 


I agree what Hamas did is horrific and unforgivable.

 

The IDF should not have descended to their level, they should have taken the moral high ground, collective punishment is not the answer.

 

A very famous Jew once summed it up by saying “Turn the other cheek”.

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 


I agree what Hamas did is horrific and unforgivable.

 

The IDF should not have descended to their level, they should have taken the moral high ground, collective punishment is not the answer.

 

A very famous Jew once summed it up by saying “Turn the other cheek”.

 

  A  Jew was telling Christians to do that .

An eye for an eye is the Jews slogan 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Reform and most other parties in Europe rely on Jew hating, except maybe the AfD

I've never seen anything from Reform UK that is against Jews, the opposite in fact, definitely dislike islamists

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2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 


I agree what Hamas did is horrific and unforgivable.

 

The IDF should not have descended to their level, they should have taken the moral high ground, collective punishment is not the answer.

 

A very famous Jew once summed it up by saying “Turn the other cheek”.

You see, the IDF did NOT descend to Hamas' level.

 

They did not laughingly rape and murder. They did not seek out the innocent to butcher.  The did not record themselves killing and then excitedly phone home to boast.

 

Rather, they took their time and tried to ensure minimum casualties among civilians. Even though those civilians were largely complicit in Hamas' crimes and wholeheartedly supported their terror. That is why it has taken 2 years to get to this point. Had the IDF merely wanted to erase Gaza, it would have been done in the first 48 hours. The IDF has that capability, and refused to use it. 

45 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You see, the IDF did NOT descend to Hamas' level.

 

They did not laughingly rape and murder. They did not seek out the innocent to butcher.  The did not record themselves killing and then excitedly phone home to boast.

 

Rather, they took their time and tried to ensure minimum casualties among civilians. Even though those civilians were largely complicit in Hamas' crimes and wholeheartedly supported their terror. That is why it has taken 2 years to get to this point. Had the IDF merely wanted to erase Gaza, it would have been done in the first 48 hours. The IDF has that capability, and refused to use it. 


complete nonsense 

5 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I agree what Hamas did is horrific and unforgivable.

 

What's most striking is that the Oct. 7 massacres had no military goal or purpose.  Attacking unarmed civilians, including children and the elderly, in their homes as well as attendees at a music festival, was intended only to terrorize.  Can anyone explain why Hamas would kill 40+ Thai agricultural workers along with students from Nepal and Africa?  How did they become enemies of Hamas? The video of a Palestinian, probably a civilian and not Hamas, beheading a Thai with a hoe is most disturbing video I have seen in my life. 

 

 

It’s all about hate.

 

The Palestinians hate the Israelis and vice versa.

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

It’s all about hate.

 

The Palestinians hate the Israelis and vice versa.

 

But why did that hatred extend to Thais, Nepalis, Africans and assorted other non-Jewish foreigners?  Why would anyone laughingly decapitate a wounded Thai worker with a hoe?  

24 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

But why did that hatred extend to Thais, Nepalis, Africans and assorted other non-Jewish foreigners?  Why would anyone laughingly decapitate a wounded Thai worker with a hoe?  


I think in that minute, they think of everybody as Israeli, or supporters of same.

 

Why do some members of the IDF target children? And babies?

 

It’s all about ingrained and institutionalised hate.

5 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

Why do some members of the IDF target children? And babies?

 

  you guys always  keep going on about children and babies , when it was only your side who targeted children and babies 

9 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Why do some members of the IDF target children? And babies?

Sad that the gullible people believe that, quite a few do though, brainwashed

On 10/9/2025 at 9:22 AM, JBChiangRai said:

 

I think you are dead wrong.

 

You assume anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint is a jew hater.  I have lunch every Tuesday with one of my best friends, an Israeli Jew, I'm having lunch with him today too. I can disagree with what Israel is doing (as do many Jews) without being a Jew hater.

 

You only engender disgust when you make comments like "Your side lost. The Jews won. All your dreams are dashed." and "Until then, you guys can crawl back under your rock and wait for the next excuse to hate Jews.".

 

This reflects incredibly badly on you and your values.

It is rarely indeed that I post in support of @Yagoda, rarely indeed, and I dont condone the typically inflamatory (if basically accurate) way he makes his point; but your effective support for attempts to find justification for the foul savage actions of the 7th of October 2023 reflect incredibly badly on you and your values.

12 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:


I think in that minute, they think of everybody as Israeli, or supporters of same.

 

Why do some members of the IDF target children? And babies?

 

It’s all about ingrained and institutionalised hate.

 

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  you guys always  keep going on about children and babies , when it was only your side who targeted children and babies 

 

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sad that the gullible people believe that, quite a few do though, brainwashed

 

I have watched several videos of Western Doctors who volunteered in Gaza.  They state one day they would have 4 or 5 children shot in the head, the next day the same but shot in the chest, the next day shot in the stomach and then the next day shot in the testicles.  This cycle would then repeat.  This claim is made by multiple people, it's not isolated.

 

I watched another video of an Israeli soldier boasting he had shot 42 children in the kneecaps.  He said he kept the bullet casings from those shots in his bedroom proudly displayed.

 

You keep talking about "your side".  My side is not Hamas, my "side" as you put it, is supporting the innocent civilian population of Gaza being killed and maimed every day.   My side is justice. As I said earlier in this thread "I agree what Hamas did is horrific and unforgivable."

On 10/9/2025 at 11:05 PM, JimCM said:

The Adelsons gave Trump hundreds of millions to get an embassy in Jerusalem.

Granted, most of Bidens cabinet were Jews.

You're really scared of Jewish people aren't you LOL

 

On 10/10/2025 at 4:09 PM, Hanaguma said:

You see, the IDF did NOT descend to Hamas' level.

 

The world`s kitchen employees and those 15 executed and buried help workers might have a slightly different view on that.

 

And these are only a few of the many IDF atrocities, Don`t want to think, what we would know, if they let journalists in.

 

On 10/10/2025 at 4:09 PM, Hanaguma said:

 

They did not laughingly rape and murder.

 

But they did,

 

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And those arrested IDF rapists were later freed by Israelis and even their minister

 

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And hailed as heroes in TV shows

 

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Now tell me, which democracy does that?

 

 

On 10/10/2025 at 4:09 PM, Hanaguma said:

 

They did not seek out the innocent to butcher. 

 

I`ll spare you the pics from dead kids with shots to the head or belly here, with half of brain or bowels splattered out, as I do not want to give anyone the nightmares, which torment me since I have seen them, but trust me, it is true.

 

You could find them easily on any good search machine, if, yes if only you would really be interested in the truth.

 

But you as so many here prefer to judge the war by the horrible crimes committed on one single day and ignore the crimes committed every day in the more than 734 days that followed.

 

As much as I would want you to look for those pics so that you can see the abominations committed by the IDF being every bit as horrible as what Hamas did, I honestly advise against it, if you value your sanity.

 

 

On 10/10/2025 at 4:09 PM, Hanaguma said:

The did not record themselves killing and then excitedly phone home to boast.

 

Of course not. They never boasted with the senseless destruction they caused.

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On 10/10/2025 at 4:09 PM, Hanaguma said:

 

Rather, they took their time and tried to ensure minimum casualties among civilians. Even though those civilians were largely complicit in Hamas' crimes and wholeheartedly supported their terror. That is why it has taken 2 years to get to this point. Had the IDF merely wanted to erase Gaza, it would have been done in the first 48 hours. The IDF has that capability, and refused to use it. 

 

Exactly.

 

They took their time to share their culture and mentality.

 

To show their respect for the elderly

 

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And their love for kids

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especially their respect towards girls

 

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even involving some of those kids in group activities

 

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How many IDF soldiers were necessary to arrest this Hamas monster? Ali the kid.

 

And destroy food supplies before evil Hamas can steal and resell it expensive.

 

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Better let them starve and die with dignity before they have to buy food for overrated prices

 

So can someone blame them when they loot a little bit

 

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and enjoy "other" activities to strengthen comradery between those battle hardened tough guys,

 

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true heroes.

 

Now who is getting promoted?

 

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On 10/9/2025 at 7:31 PM, Yagoda said:

I doubt thousands of kids under five have been killed by Hamas fighting the IDF, but 

 

On 10/9/2025 at 7:31 PM, Yagoda said:

I don't care since Jews are superior to palestinians.

 

Thank you for this honest statement.

 

You same as @ezzra have my respect. Finally you show your true colors. 

 

On 10/8/2025 at 10:41 AM, ezzra said:

AND YES, JEWS ARE SUPERIOR TO THE ARAB/MUSLIM RACE IN SO MANY WAYS IT WILL TAKE A WHOLE DAY

TO COUNT.

 

In your opinion there are superior races and inferior ones, so how many from the latter we kill should not bother us as we are superior.

 

And here am I thinking, why can we, most of us born and raised in the West with Western values like democracy, human rights and a juristic system treating everyone in the same way, just cannot agree on the Israel Gaza matter.

 

Because some of us think:  "all animals are equal", while some also think  "but some animals are more equal than others".

 

Hm, which sort of animal was that again?

 

And you call ME a Nazi?

 

On 10/9/2025 at 7:31 PM, Yagoda said:

Folks that start wars usually are barbaric hate ridden animals.

 

Really? I never saw the USA as a country of barbaric hate ridden animals.

 

But you being a US citizen living in Asia must surely know what you talk about.

 

By the way, isn`t is difficult for you to live amongst all those inferior Asian people? 

 

On 10/10/2025 at 3:42 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

An eye for an eye is the Jews slogan 

 

Interesting.

 

So the IDF must be really bad when it comes to counting.

 

As they have murdered 60 times the number of the Israelis killed on October 7.

34 minutes ago, Somjot said:

As they have murdered 60 times the number of the Israelis killed on October 7.

Israel won. The US won. Your terrorist side lost. The jew haters lost. The America haters lost.

 

 

45 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Israel won. The US won. Your terrorist side lost. The jew haters lost. The America haters lost.

 

I have never supported terrorism or Hamas, only the innocent victims in Gaza and the Westbank, nor do I hate Jews or America.

 

I understand that you have to put me in that pigeonhole to justify your support of genocide and a terror state.

 

But it is amazing, how you are, many times by now, celebrating your victory and keep repeating that you won.

 

Seriously, what did I miss?

 

Israel is now the most hated country on our planet, Israelis are not welcome in most countries, except those outlaw states, who would happily invite the war criminal Netanjahu.

 

Jews everywhere are facing a huge wave of anti-semitism, despite they are not responsible of Israel`s atrocities.

 

The US and the West have lost their credibility in the rest of the world as it has realized how worthless all their talks and promises about human rights and democracy are.

 

More and more successful countries are turning away from the West, many of them towards BRICS.

 

Our economies are collapsing.

 

Our youth has no morals or work ethics as our societies have no more role models to post a good example.

 

Most of our leaders exposed of being bribed puppets of a foreign country, which bribes them with Millions so they approve Billions of taxpayer`s money to be send to that country.

 

Money that is desperately needed for education, communities or for the families of the fallen soldiers or disabled Veterans of the wars that little country made us fight for it.

 

And you, blind as you are, really believe that this little country with it`s racist government and racist supporters, who like @ezzra feel superior to Arabs, and completely disregards their human rights will not one day act in the same way towards you, if you are of no use for them anymore.

 

Ask the families of the victims of the King David Hotel or the sailors on the USS liberty. 

 

Or keep dancing alone in your domicile, being a guest of all those inferior Asians and repeat:

 

"I win, I win, we won, I win. I am superior. The Jews are superior. We are superior."

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