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If you want to know why Israel is so adamant about ending Hamas

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10 hours ago, JAG said:

I was a Major. For quite a lot of my service in Germany I served alongside the Bundeswehr. Most (not all) were a bunch of unwilling disinterested conscripts who couldn't fight sleep.

 

Well, Major, clearly times have changed since I have served because back in the day the first thing we would say to a soldier from an allied army would not have been an insult, especially as a senior military officer.

 

 

10 hours ago, JAG said:

 

You should however, with that background,  be aware of the problems inherent in controlling and disciplining conscript soldiers.

 

I am fully aware of that plus being in a combat zone even after a battle any well hidden sniper could end one`s life. I don`t really care about some soldiers going a bit crazy like the ones on the pics.

 

 

10 hours ago, JAG said:

 

What we don't know however, and probably never will, is what sanctions were taken against the soldiers who took those photographs, and shot those children.

 

I can tell you that: NONE.

 

Same goes for soldiers who rape detainees. Celebrated as heroes.

 

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10 hours ago, JAG said:

 

As for "absolutely not true" and "shaming every man and woman in uniform", you are repeating the reports of Hamas news outlets. There are no independant journalistic sources on the ground in Gaza, largely because Hamas will not permit them. 

 

I do personally feel ashamed, when soldiers of an ally first grant the rescue helpers of Hind Rajab, who was sitting in that car with her family members dead, begging for her life, to come and take her, safe passage and later kill them and execute that 5 year old girl.

 

 

Same goes for target practice on children. Disgusting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • JBChiangRai
    JBChiangRai

    AI has this to say about that site.  I didn't look at the site by the way.  We all know what happened, attempts to portray pro-Israeli justification for genocide are not useful right now.  

  • Wow, what a surprise. A website that shows in graphic detail the crimes of Hamas centres exclusively on Hamas-perpetrated violence on October 7. Whoda thunk it?    Yes, it is a memorial and

  • JBChiangRai
    JBChiangRai

    Nonsense, it's anything but that simple.

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5 hours ago, Somjot said:

Isn`t that a bit hypocritical?

 

To blame me for not reading your posts carefully, when you never reply to my questions.

 

No, it's not hypocritical.  Your not reading my posts carefully and my failure to answer some of your questions are two very different things.    I didn't respond to your questions because I didn't feel it would serve any useful purpose.  You questions are for the most part what in English are called rhetorical questions, which are statements formed as questions for dramatic effect or to provoke a response.

Rhetorical questions are not intended to elicit information and therefore there's no need to answer them.

 

Moreover,  you constantly use words or phrases I can't accept, such as "murder" or "slaughter" in reference to the actions of the IDF  or "stealing" land by Zionists.   In addition, sometimes your questions are so broad they veer off topic or would require extremely long responses.  I often don't have the time to answer at length,  For all these reasons, I sometimes choose to ignore your questions.

 

In  reply to an earlier barrage of your questions I did give a blanket answer that summed up the situation.

 

On 10/3/2025 at 7:32 PM, Evil Penevil said:

If you actually believe Hamas is a resistance movement and freedom fighters, then we are too far apart to have a meaningful discussion.  There is nothing you could write than would persuade me you are right and vice versa

 

But, since your ask for it and I have plenty of time today, I will answer your questions.  :biggrin:  I hope it makes you happy.

 

5 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Would not have changed my answer.

 

OK, I rephrase

 

Does it really matter if 40 Israeli kids Thai workers were killed or 38?

It certainly matters to those  Thai workers who were killed as well as their families and friends.  It also matters because JimCM claimed I had exaggerated the number of Thai workers killed and I hadn't.

 

Especially when you think about the 20.000 plus plus kids 70.000 plus plus civilians murdered by the IDF.

I don't accept that the IDF has murdered anyone in Gaza and the 70,000 figure includes 20,000 or more Hamas terrorists.  The number of civilian deaths is high in Gaza because Hamas hides its fighters and weapons among civilians, plus the nature of urban warfare in a densely populated area always leads to civilian deaths.  It's tragic, but it's not murder.

 

If killing 40 kids Thai workers makes us call an armed resistance group terrorists, which I personally agree to.

 

Then how do we call an army which has killed more than 20.000 70.000?

An army that has taken every reasonable precaution to avoid unnecessary civilian deaths while combatting terrorists.

Most moral?  Yes, that too.

 

And more importantly, why do we, our leaders and our media fail to condemn that?  

There is no reason for them to condemn the actions of the IDF.

 

What does this say about us?  That is a rhetorical question and would require an off-topic philosophical answer.

 

Better now?  Another rhetorical question.

 

And now for your earlier questions, which in the context of this thread are mostly off-topic.

 

On 10/3/2025 at 2:59 PM, Somjot said:

If Israels` intention only was the elimination of Hamas, then ...

 

... why slaughter the world`s kitchen workers?

That was a tragic and unintentional incident for which Netanyahu apologized.  It was due to the fog of war.

... why murder and bury the 15 aid workers?

That depended on misunderstanding and professional failures on the part of several IDF officers who were relieved of command or reprimanded.  

... why intentionally shoot children in the head, chest or abdomen?

If that happened, and I am not convinced it did, it depended on the actions of a rogue soldier who should have been punished.

... why target children with drones?

I don't believe that happened.  But how can I prove a negative?  (That's my rhetorical question :wink:).

... why keep stealing their land and selling it even before the war is over?

I don't believe that happened. Off-topic question in any case.

... why eliminate medics and journalists?

Some were Hamas members and not civilian medics or journalists, others were  unintentional accidents.

... why pay billions to buy US politicians via AIPAC

Israel does not pay U.S. politicians billions via AIPAC,   While influential, AIPAC has nowhere near the wealth or power you imagine.  Way off-topic question.

... and so on

... and on

 

If Israel only wants to end terrorism and live peacefully next to their neighbors, why do they keep stealing land in the Westbank?

They don't.  The question of land ownership in the occupied territories is very complicated and beyond the scope of this thread.

 

The questions you put to me have been asked and answered numerous times on AN.  They are so tired that answering them is not just flogging a dead horse but flogging a fossilized dinosaur.  fossil.gif.a81433fb4a5ed303b096e9f38d6b49c8.gif

4 hours ago, JimCM said:

Come on @Evil Penevil, you never answered my questions too.

 

I thought I had answered all your questions.  Which ones haven't I answered?

Israel is a microscopic state that is completely and utterly dependent on the United States. So when someone says that Israel decided something, it sounds like your right pinky decided something, or like your left earlobe decided something.

An internal power struggle between Hamas and a Gazan clan may be the reason behind the 30 executions.  Hamas has recalled  7,000 of  its fighters  to take over security functions in Gaza.  I just hope the hostages are released before all hell breaks loose.

Hamas mobilises fighters in Gaza as fears of internal violence mount

...

This morning Hamas killed one Dughmush clan member, and reportedly kidnapped another 30.

 

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The article also stated:

The mobilisation order was reportedly issued via phone calls and text messages which said the aim was to "cleanse Gaza of outlaws and collaborators with Israel" and told fighters to report within 24 hours.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8482418plo

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

while in truth the Jews they slaughtered by the Millions were superior?

The cowardly Germans spent all their time killing defenseless women and children to satisfy the sick needs of their drug addicted, drooling, homosexual leader  but hey, the Jews are still here and winning...while your heroes are:

 

DeadLosers. Who is superior then? 

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

ame as I do not see any human being as inferior or superior.

Except Jews, right.

 

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

Now I am confused.

Of course you are.  Here is a hint: culture.

 

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

But in my opinion Israel has lost. Not the war. But it`s humanity. 

Loser talk. You dont consider jews to be human

 

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

And so have you.

You never had any.

 

 

Just a few brief notes to the jew hating losers.

4 hours ago, zmisha said:

Israel is a microscopic state that is completely and utterly dependent on the United States. So when someone says that Israel decided something, it sounds like your right pinky decided something, or like your left earlobe decided something.

Exactly. We decide in the USA. We like winners, and hate Socialists. As the drooling homosexual one balled speed freak shaking in his bunker once said, the USA is a mongrel nation controlled by the jews anyway 

On 10/8/2025 at 8:29 PM, simon43 said:

Can amy of you pro-palastinians explain why the neighbouring Muslim countries refuse to take in Palastinian refugees?  (This is a rhetorical question, because I have read factual information from accredited sources about exactly why all those countries refuse the Palastinians...)

Exactly true. I don't think UAE wants to become a breeding ground for terrorists. These well to do Muslim countries know better. 

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

The cowardly Germans spent all their time killing defenseless women and children to satisfy the sick needs of their drug addicted, drooling, homosexual leader  but hey, the Jews are still here and winning...while your heroes are:

 

DeadLosers. Who is superior then? 

 

Early on the bong already, or is it just a mental condition you suffer from, or both?

 

Hitler was not a homosexual, that is something you make up in that sick brain of yours, and I didn't know the Germans were all dead.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We decide in the USA. We like winners,

 

Then maybe it's time to remove that loser, you adore so much, from the top of the government

2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Then maybe it's time to remove that loser, you adore so much, from the top of the government

 

   Trump won , he didn't lose the election 

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Hitler was not a homosexual, t

Oh that hurts so much doesnt it? Defend the morality of your hero LOL.!!!!

 

You cant make this up. Some internet troll stalking me to defend Hitlers sexuality bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah

 

 

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Then maybe it's time to remove that loser, you adore so much, from the top of the government

I bet ya 20 plus tortured kidnapped victims of bestial criminals and their families adore him. Bet you will be justifying the rapes next. You know the saying of Hamas..if there isnt a goat around.....

 

 

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Oh that hurts so much doesnt it? Defend the morality of your hero LOL.!!!!

 

You cant make this up. Some internet troll stalking me to defend Hitlers sexuality bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah

 

 

 

Some mentally challenged Cambodian troll, editing my post to make his born loser comments

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

Some mentally challenged Cambodian troll, editing my post to make his born loser comments

The posts speak for themselves. Bet you wish you could get into Cambodia

Just now, Yagoda said:

The posts speak for themselves. Bet you wish you could get into Cambodia

 

Why would I want to be in a third world country in the first place, when it is obvious that there are mentally challenged MAGA troll living there in the second place?

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Oh that hurts so much doesnt it? Defend the morality of your hero LOL.!!!!

 

You cant make this up. Some internet troll stalking me to defend Hitlers sexuality bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah

 

 

Ooooooh, yet another troll & stalker accusation from the Commy, though not me this time........😒

You should really get a grip, it is soooooo tiresome, same ol', same ol', every day....🙄

 

Your age really is no excuse.....🥴

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

T drug addicted, drooling, homosexual leader  but hey, the Jews are still here and winning...while your heroes are:

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. We decide in the USA. We like winners, and hate Socialists. As the drooling homosexual one balled speed freak shaking in his bunker once said, the USA is a mongrel nation controlled by the jews anyway 

 

You seem to have problem with homosexuals, projecting methinks

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Exactly. We decide in the USA. We like winners, and hate Socialists. As the drooling homosexual one balled speed freak shaking in his bunker once said, the USA is a mongrel nation controlled by the jews anyway 

"We"...................🤣

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

 

Why would I want to be in a third world country in the first place, when it is obvious that there are mentally challenged MAGA troll living there in the second place?

Beats me, you mention the Country enough and your life is clearly miserable since you follow me around saying nothing other than Cambodia Cambodia Cambodia. 

 

By the way your post: Hitler wasnt homosexual. Priceless. 

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

You seem to have problem with homosexuals, projecting methinks

You are the one that worships one, not me. 

 

Do your homosexual allies in youir movement know you toss the term around as an insult?

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Ooooooh, yet another troll & stalker accusation from the Commy, though not me this time........😒

You should really get a grip, it is soooooo tiresome, same ol', same ol', every day....🙄

 

Your age really is no excuse.....🥴

Hi stalker, I see you are showing up all over the place.

 

Commie, not commy.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Hi stalker, I see you are showing up all over the place.

 

Commie, not commy.

 

Who else would know the correct spelling, other than a proven communist?

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Why would I want to be in a third world country in the first place, when it is obvious that there are mentally challenged MAGA troll living there in the second place?

Thailand is a third world country, filled with mentally challenged anti western people. As seen on this forum

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You are the one that worships one, not me. 

 

Do your homosexual allies in youir movement know you toss the term around as an insult?

 

You and my movements have a lot in common.

 

You didn't answer my question, do you have a problem with homosexuals?

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

You didn't answer my question, do you have a problem with homosexuals?

Depends on who they are. HBU? How does Hitlers homosexuality strike you?

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Hi stalker, I see you are showing up all over the place.

 

Commie, not commy.

See what I mean......................🥴

19 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Who else would know the correct spelling, other than a proven communist?

Someone who graduated the 1st grade, hbu?

Compare Israel with another country to know what will happen. 

1. Sail from Europe and settle in a land occupied by others. 

2. Start slaughtering the locals

3. Rail against the murdering natives as animals

4. Make promises, sign treaties. Then break them

5. Push the locals to empty areas, then call them animals again

6. Slice off the breasts of the women after raping them. Kill the children with swords and knives

7. Promote every attempt by the locals to push back as evil

8. Take over all the land as a god given "right"

9. Keep everything.

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