I have been going to the gym several times a week and walking daily.

 

I still cannot get my weight down to being slim.

 

So I think carbs do not work for me at all.

 

I was following several health influencers who were doing high carb and they all manage to stay slim somehow.

 

But I have experimented with the most amount of exercise I can possibly do.

 

I can't exercise much more than I am now.

 

Carbs do not seem to work for me. 

Just watched this video.

 

He explains that you do not need carbs to perform. A lot of athletes use carbs to fuel their workouts, but you can also fuel workouts on stored fats. 

 

This guy is in his 60s and still performing at a high level with no carbs. 

 

 

After a certain age, the body (at least mine) does not seem to handle carbs well at all.

 

It seems like insulin resistance increases as we age. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

was following several health influencers

Well, obviously they did a perfect job. They influenced you😂.

Seriously now:

You want to lose weight?

1. Why?

2. BMI?

3. Height, weight (kg)?

4. How many times eating?

5. 17 hrs rule?

6. Alcohol habits?

7. Drinking what?

8. Sweets habit?

Shall we start?

24 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I have been going to the gym several times a week and walking daily.

 

I still cannot get my weight down to being slim.

 

So I think carbs do not work for me at all.

The past couple months, I allowed more carbs back into my diet, specifically cereal (corn flakes/oats), as pre 2000 hr snack, and it totally screwed up my overnight fast.   That and being O&A for half of the time, and eating carbs.   Gained 5kg and going back on my stricter Keto ish diet.

 

Picked up a CGM (constant glucose monitor) yesterday, and testing.   Major glucose spike with that bowl of cereal, which was only ....

... 20 gr corn flakes

... 25 gr rolled oats

... 65 gr blueberries

... 120 ml while milk

 

It spiked glucose up 38 mg/dl, and it wasn't the blueberries, as this guy got a lower spike, eating 100 gr.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQlxNPh7yA

 

For dinner I had 225 gr burger + ketchup (225 gr = double Whopper beef amount), no salad on Makro burger roll.   Initially went down (dilute any carbs still digesting) then up a tad (maybe the roll), then dropped considerably.

 

Got the CGM for 2 weeks of free monitoring, so will test out all the things I eat.   Many things I don't need to, as the channel above has done already.

 

Definitely off the small bowl of cereal @ 2000 hrs.   Ate the burger at 1800 hrs, and didn't need to snack afterwards.   As usually have a hard time sleeping at midnight ish, if hungry.   CGM is pretty cool, as showed glucose dropping overnight while sleeping to really low level.   Gives those super ketones time to do their work.

 

CGM was extremely inexpensive compared the USA pricing of the YT'er's service plan.

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/i5450235368-s23122936215.html?urlFlag=true&mp=1&tradePath=omItm&tradeOrderId=1042260849569891&tradeOrderLineId=1042260849669891&spm=spm%3Da2o42.order_details.item_title.1

 

15 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, obviously they did a perfect job. They influenced you😂.

Seriously now:

You want to lose weight?

1. Why?

2. BMI?

3. Height, weight (kg)?

4. How many times eating?

5. 17 hrs rule?

6. Alcohol habits?

7. Drinking what?

8. Sweets habit?

Shall we start?

 

Sorry, not divulging my BMI.

I don't even know what it is.

I just look in the mirror and I ain't happy with my reflection.

Some sugar in my coffee. Tried stevia, tastes awful. Will need to order monk fruit sweetener online to get rid of all sugar. 

No sugary drinks.

 

But fair amount of carbs - potatoes, rice, coconut water, and around 4 servings of fruit per day. That was probably 100 - 150 grams of carbs daily. Doesn't work for me at all.

 

And I was doing 3 meals a day. Will need to cut down to 2 .

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Sorry, not divulging my BMI.

I don't even know what it is.

I just look in the mirror and I ain't happy with my reflection.

Some sugar in my coffee. Tried stevia, tastes awful. Will need to order monk fruit sweetener online to get rid of all sugar. 

No sugary drinks.

 

But fair amount of carbs - potatoes, rice, coconut water, and around 4 servings of fruit per day. That was probably 100 - 150 grams of carbs daily. Doesn't work for me at all.

 

And I was doing 3 meals a day. Will need to cut down to 2 .

 

Well, this will not work.

If you want to have any support (that's why you posted your problem, isn't it?) then please give the required

details. PM? 

10 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, this will not work.

If you want to have any support (that's why you posted your problem, isn't it?) then please give the required

details. PM? 

 

You absolutely need my BMI?

What difference does it make?

I have some extra weight man. It doesn't need to be measured. 

 

You? What diet are you on?

Anyways, I realized it makes no difference asking different people.

Some people are doing 200 grams of carbs a day and don't get fat.

I had a coffee at McDonald's and an older guy eating there seemed slim. 

 

accept a slight discomfort from hunger, or accept belly, it sucks either way so pick your poison

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I have been going to the gym several times a week and walking daily.

 

I still cannot get my weight down to being slim.

 

So I think carbs do not work for me at all.

 

I was following several health influencers who were doing high carb and they all manage to stay slim somehow.

 

But I have experimented with the most amount of exercise I can possibly do.

 

I can't exercise much more than I am now.

 

Carbs do not seem to work for me. 

 

You need enough protein, enough carbs, and less fat

Carbs 45%

protein 30%

fat 25%

 

and depending how tall and your lean weight calculate your daily needs to go down ,5 kg a week. Sometimes you go down 1 kg and sometimes you will gain a kg, but in the long run over 6 months you will lose your estimated planned weight 

 

my calorie intake now is 2200 calories, and yes you have to weigh and measure all your meals. 

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

You absolutely need my BMI?

What difference does it make?

I have some extra weight man. It doesn't need to be measured. 

 

You? What diet are you on?

Anyways, I realized it makes no difference asking different people.

Some people are doing 200 grams of carbs a day and don't get fat.

I had a coffee at McDonald's and an older guy eating there seemed slim. 

 

So, what is it about.?

Do you have just some spare time, sharing your thoughts about yourself? Frustration?

Now you did. What next?

You write: "Anyways, I realized it makes no difference asking different people".

So why are you posting?  Is it halfhearted, hoping to find the holy grail? 

So, not knowing much (not much enough) about you, here some advises in general.

1. Fruits are good but contain a lot of sugar. Green apples are fine, unpeeled. 2 a day is good.

2. One or two meals are enough. No rice, no potatoes, but veggies, some chicken.

3. No sugar at all

4. 17 hrs rule. Between your last meal of the day and the next one, it should be 17 hrs. Intermitted fasting. 

5. Drink water, green tea, better Mate-Tea supporting fasting.

 

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

After a certain age, the body (at least mine) does not seem to handle carbs well at all.

 

It seems like insulin resistance increases as we age. 

 

 

It is more about being consistent working with a plan, and if you eat carbs with fat, 

 

Yes, eating carbs with protein and healthy fats can help stabilize blood sugarbecause fats and protein slow down the digestion process, leading to a more gradual release of glucose into the bloodstream. While carbs are broken down into glucose for energy, combining them with fiber, protein, and healthy fats minimizes the sharp spikes and crashes that can result from eating carbs alone

 

You have to remember your total use of calories pr day comes from just existing and maintaining your intestines and functional body. Very little comes from exercising except if you actually building muscle mass, then you need a balanced diet. 

 

Improving breathing is a little detail which will help among many other things 

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I have been going to the gym several times a week and walking daily.

 

I still cannot get my weight down to being slim.

 

So I think carbs do not work for me at all.

 

I was following several health influencers who were doing high carb and they all manage to stay slim somehow.

 

But I have experimented with the most amount of exercise I can possibly do.

 

I can't exercise much more than I am now.

 

Carbs do not seem to work for me. 

Fish n salad

The carnivore diet works for many, but you could also try intermittent fasting to lose weight and control blood sugar etc., as that works too. I have at times followed the "Warrior diet", which is basically 20:4 intermittent fasting (only eating each day in a 4-hour window and just black coffee and water outside that window)... or the OMAD diet, which is the one-meal-a-day diet and sure works, but you need discipline and will power to stick to it for a while. However, your body soons gets used to it and you start burning ketones which is way better than running off glucose all the time. It also allows for autophagy to start happening, which is good for you and helps fight cancer and illness.

13 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

The carnivore diet works for many, but you could also try intermittent fasting to lose weight and control blood sugar etc., as that works too. I have at times followed the "Warrior diet", which is basically 20:4 intermittent fasting (only eating each day in a 4-hour window and just black coffee and water outside that window)... or the OMAD diet, which is the one-meal-a-day diet and sure works, but you need discipline and will power to stick to it for a while. However, your body soons gets used to it and you start burning ketones which is way better than running off glucose all the time. It also allows for autophagy to start happening, which is good for you and helps fight cancer and illness.

The secret is, when you start en «extreme diet, you become more disciplined and follow it to point, and that’s why it works, but for most this is a temporary project, and most falls back to old habits because it is extreme, and takes a a lot of effort to keep up with. 

 

Instead of changing your daily habits slowly by time and have patience and more sustainable approach by step by step and also knownlegde about how it works. Balanced diet with exercise is more like two steps ahead, and 3 steps back, until you crack the code by time being consistent. 

 

The human body is an amazing machine where you can run any kind of energy in to it, but it is your brain that convince you if it works or not. If you have a normal body and normal health, even with beginning lifestyle issues, it is not to late to turn it around and reset your metabolism and beginning health issues. 

1 hour ago, mordothailand said:

accept a slight discomfort from hunger, or accept belly, it sucks either way so pick your poison

No need for hunger pains.  Do need to keep busy, or will power, to avoid eating simply when bored.  Or at least have healthy snacks to munch on.

 

I usually eat just before 1200 noon, and done at 1800.  Yesterday was busy so didn't start until 1500 hrs.

 

I only ate 984 calories yesterday, 1500-1800 hrs and wasn't hungry at all ...

 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

 

You need enough protein, enough carbs, and less fat

Carbs 45%

protein 30%

fat 25%

 

and depending how tall and your lean weight calculate your daily needs to go down ,5 kg a week. Sometimes you go down 1 kg and sometimes you will gain a kg, but in the long run over 6 months you will lose your estimated planned weight 

 

my calorie intake now is 2200 calories, and yes you have to weigh and measure all your meals. 

I'm opposite, and prefer ...

Carbs  15% or less

Protein 35%

Fat 50%

 

Yesterday, due to some experimenting, carbs & protein reversed ...

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Sorry, not divulging my BMI.

I don't even know what it is.

I just look in the mirror and I ain't happy with my reflection.

Some sugar in my coffee. Tried stevia, tastes awful. Will need to order monk fruit sweetener online to get rid of all sugar. 

No sugary drinks.

 

But fair amount of carbs - potatoes, rice, coconut water, and around 4 servings of fruit per day. That was probably 100 - 150 grams of carbs daily. Doesn't work for me at all.

 

And I was doing 3 meals a day. Will need to cut down to 2 .

 

Monkfruit at Lotus and Big C. The more, small meals you eat daily, the better chance you won't eat too much in one sitting, and won't be as hungry, along with not storing calories. I've eaten 4-5 a day for 50 years and still keep body fat low, even though I've not been to a gym as many  times as before, until I move back home. Cut down on the fruit servings, as that's quick energy and high in sugar. Keep the rice and potato portions very small. Stay away from drinking any calories and that sugar won't be as  much. Don't eat for 3 hours before you go to bed at night. 

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I'm opposite, and prefer ...

Carbs  15% or less

Protein 35%

Fat 50%

 

Yesterday, due to some experimenting, carbs & protein reversed ...

 

As long you get in your protein needs, and you feel great, and keeps your calories for daily needs, and your blood shows no issues, why change? 

 

Just know it is not the only diet that will work for you, but my personal view and opinion keto is not sustainable in the long run. Great for 3 months and easy to lose weight quick 

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

As long you get in your protein needs, and you feel great, and keeps your calories for daily needs, and your blood shows no issues, why change? 

 

Just know it is not the only diet that will work for you, but my personal view and opinion keto is not sustainable in the long run. Great for 3 months and easy to lose weight quick 

Keto ish, is easily sustainable for me.   As I stated above, I was trying to introduce some more fiber, via carbs, but chose unwisely; corn flakes & rolled oats, and nothing but sugar.   I did change up today, and had 2 scrambled eggs before the bowl of cereal, no sugar spike.

 

Yesterday it was first meal, and 38 mg/dl spike.  Also about 30% more cereal yesterday.  So brekkie now will be eggs or eggs & cereal or toast.

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Keto ish, is easily sustainable for me.   As I stated above, I was trying to introduce some more fiber, via carbs, but chose unwisely; corn flakes & rolled oats, and nothing but sugar.   I did change up today, and had 2 scrambled eggs before the bowl of cereal, no sugar spike.

 

Yesterday it was first meal, and 38 mg/dl spike.  Also about 30% more cereal yesterday.  So brekkie now will be eggs & cereal or toast.

 

When it comes to spikes in sugar, it is a bit more complicated, where your body will adjust by time if you eating sufficient and balanced. 

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 I did change up today, and had 2 scrambled eggs before the bowl of cereal, no sugar spike.

 

But sugar spike is not the only issue.

 

As long as you have carbs/sugar in the diet, the body will burn the carbs for fuel first before burning fat for fuel. 

 

If you can eat carbs without gaining weight, go for it. 

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

 

When it comes to spikes in sugar, it is a bit more complicated, where your body will adjust by time if you eating sufficient and balanced. 

Also what, how, when and in what order you eat.  As mention earlier, here or elsewhere, experimenting with a CGM (constant glucose monitor) for 2 weeks, to pinpoint exact what, how & when influences the spikes.

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

But sugar spike is not the only issue.

 

As long as you have carbs/sugar in the diet, the body will burn the carbs for fuel first before burning fat for fuel. 

 

If you can eat carbs without gaining weight, go for it. 

 

Why I limit the carbs, so body burns fat for energy, since carbs aren't available.  Try to stick with fibrous veggies, and avoid starchy carbs; potatoes & pasta.   Rice is easy to avoid, as not really a fan, especially the crap white rice in TH.

 

Bread (whole wheat) is an Achilles heel for me, but I got that way down from the past.  100 gr a day, if that, vs half a loaf 

17 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

But sugar spike is not the only issue.

 

As long as you have carbs/sugar in the diet, the body will burn the carbs for fuel first before burning fat for fuel. 

 

If you can eat carbs without gaining weight, go for it. 

 

The main thing about eating is not starving yourself, especially after eating a certain way for decades. If you have a lot to lose, you need to curtail the carbs but not eliminate them. Yes, the Keto diet can work if you can stick to it, but you'll need to go back to a more normal lifestyle, including carbs, especially fruits and veggies, as the keto isn't really for a long term, as it restricts things your gut needs.

 

If you only need to lose 20 lbs or less, all that takes is restricting total calories and cutting back on simple sugars, which yes will burn first before stored fat.

 

The thing a person needs to do is be satisfied with his eating habits while being able to stay lean, which means learning to read labels, and eating things you like but in small portions, as those small portions are the key. You don't want to go too long without food, dinner to breakfast being long enough, as that's all the fast you need, unless you are actually fasting for a specific reason. You eat small meals, you'll get the calories you need, and not too many that will be stored.

 

The worst thing anyone can do is drinking calories. Fried foods aren't good either, as you're getting too many fats and carbs, along with the protein source. Eating grilled or broiled chicken breast, no skin, by using spices, is very tasty and hardly any calories. More chicken than beef, more fish then chicken, more egg whites than fish is a good reminder, even though all are lean choices for protein. Grains are good for breakfast, but keep the portion small, along with that piece of fruit and monkfruit for sweetener.

 

Pasta with ground chicken (stir fried first) and sauce is a good dinner also. Rice is great, but living here you get passed a huge portion, especially if you have a Thai wife or girlfriend. Just ask them to give you a small portion always. Green veggies are good because they have almost no calories and have fiber. I use fat free spray butter on them if they're with chicken or fish, or else stir fried with chicken in light oil. For breakfast I eat a small bowl of oatmeal, sweetened with Monkfruit and either low fat Almond Milk or Soy, unsweetened, along with 2 scrambled eggs and a piece of whole grain toast with Dalfours sugar free jelly, and coffee.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry, not divulging my BMI.

I don't even know what it is.

Obviously you will not divulge your BMI....Body Mass Index because you say don't even know what it is, but involve in a health/eating thread.   

Weight in kg/Height in metres squared.   So for me 72 / (1.73x1,73) = 24. Top end of the Normal range.

 

If I want to lower it, I must grow a couple of centimetres. 555

48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why I limit the carbs, so body burns fat for energy, since carbs aren't available.  Try to stick with fibrous veggies, and avoid starchy carbs; potatoes & pasta.   Rice is easy to avoid, as not really a fan, especially the crap white rice in TH.

 

Bread (whole wheat) is an Achilles heel for me, but I got that way down from the past.  100 gr a day, if that, vs half a loaf 

The body burns anything, so as said before, as long you got your protein in, you will do good 👍 what matters is how many calories you eat if you want to have a slim and fit body

12 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Obviously you will not divulge your BMI....Body Mass Index because you say don't even know what it is, but involve in a health/eating thread.   

Weight in kg/Height in metres squared.   So for me 72 / (1.73x1,73) = 24. Top end of the Normal range.

 

If I want to lower it, I must grow a couple of centimetres. 555

 

Not even sure how accurate that information is.

Some people are muscular. This calculation doesn't take that into account.

For men, the waist circumference is a good indicator I think as that's the last place the fat will disappear. 

40 minutes ago, Hummin said:

The body burns anything, so as said before, as long you got your protein in, you will do good 👍 what matters is how many calories you eat if you want to have a slim and fit body

Experimenting so protein / carb % aren't what I want.   Getting a slight rise in glucose now from the egg noodles I had for dinner.  150 gr / 37.7 gr carb

 

 

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Not even sure how accurate that information is.

Some people are muscular. This calculation doesn't take that into account.

For men, the waist circumference is a good indicator I think as that's the last place the fat will disappear. 

It's not accurate for people who lift weights and have more muscle than the average person is right.