16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Yes, that's a good thing.

But you assume the average person is nothing but "Truth" ...

The Ministry of Confusion is now everywhere. 

Nope, I don't assume that the average person has the 'Truth'.  

The average person prefers not to think for himself.  Because having to make sense of contradictory pieces of information/facts that they receive or encounter is 'confusing' and can be 'dangerous' for their bland world-view. 

Hence weak minds prefer to go along unthinkingly with the Voices of Authority.  And that includes branding anyone that has an opinion that not aligns with the 'accepted narrative' as dumb, unqualified, loony conspiracy theorists.  We see ample evidence of that on this sub-forum where inconvenient ideas and facts/evidence that challenge convention are vehemently attacked.   

14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Nope, I don't assume that the average person has the 'Truth'.  

The average person prefers not to think for himself.  Because having to make sense of contradictory pieces of information/facts that they receive or encounter is 'confusing' and can be 'dangerous' for their bland world-view. 

Hence weak minds prefer to go along unthinkingly with the Voices of Authority.  And that includes branding anyone that has an opinion that not aligns with the 'accepted narrative' as dumb, unqualified, loony conspiracy theorists.  We see ample evidence of that on this sub-forum where inconvenient ideas and facts/evidence that challenge convention are vehemently attacked.   

I don’t think the average person, whatever that means, avoids thinking for themselves. Most are just too busy getting through life: getting up in the morning, going to work, looking after their children, dealing with all the usual challenges, and paying the bills—especially now, when everything seems so expensive.

 

It’s unfair to call these people weak-minded.

 

They simply don’t have the time or headspace to sit down and reflect like some of us do on here, & to think more deeply.

 

Some spend their time on football, beer, the latest celebrity gossip, or even mindless game shows. Not because they’re unintelligent, but because it gives them a little relief from the endless grind. We all know what that feels like: leaving the house in the dark, working all day, and just needing a bit of escape at the end of it.

 

I get the sense that your last sentence, carries a little frustration.

You form opinions based on what you see as facts, and when they’re challenged, it can feel a bit unsettling. That’s fine — we can still have a proper, intelligent conversation. My views probably won’t line up with yours, and that’s perfectly okay.

 

11 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Hence weak minds prefer to go along unthinkingly with the Voices of Authority. 

 

Everyone I know back home took multiple vaccines.

And this extends to their extended families and all the people they know at work.

Plus I worked in a large company.

Never heard one person complain about "vaccine accidents".

It's only in the conspiracy journals mostly.

If there are people, it must be extremely rare. 

 

And you people end up becoming corrupt in your attempts to dethrone the powers that be. 

You make it sound like everyone who took the jab will die just to get your point across. 

And then you become the same sort of propaganda as the govt. The flip side. 

 

23 minutes ago, Bacon1 said:

I don’t think the average person, whatever that means, avoids thinking for themselves. Most are just too busy getting through life: getting up in the morning, going to work, looking after their children, dealing with all the usual challenges, and paying the bills—especially now, when everything seems so expensive.

 

It’s unfair to call these people weak-minded.

 

They simply don’t have the time or headspace to sit down and reflect like some of us do on here, & to think more deeply.

 

Some spend their time on football, beer, the latest celebrity gossip, or even mindless game shows. Not because they’re unintelligent, but because it gives them a little relief from the endless grind. We all know what that feels like: leaving the house in the dark, working all day, and just needing a bit of escape at the end of it.

 

I get the sense that your last sentence, carries a little frustration.

You form opinions based on what you see as facts, and when they’re challenged, it can feel a bit unsettling. That’s fine — we can still have a proper, intelligent conversation. My views probably won’t line up with yours, and that’s perfectly okay.

 

I actually agree with most of what you wrote, so I upvoted it.  

And it's also true that I do get p1ssed off when the content of the topic is dismissed without even considering it, solely because of the messenger or media where it was posted.    

Note that I am not 'frustrated' that the controversial points-of-view I post are challenged.  Imo accepting them unthinkingly is as wrong as dismissing them out of hand.  I am all for proper, intelligent conversation in which both parties discuss the CONTENT using valid facts/arguments. 

Of course I am also well aware that new insights do not come by themselves and require a willingness to look with an open mind at both sides of the argument.  My favorite quote on this matter is by Schopenhauer, who wrote: 

All truth passes through three stages:

   First, it is ridiculed.  

   Second, it is violently opposed.

   Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

It's called Freedom of Speech. 

And you better get used to it as the mainstream media are continually losing their audience and influence due to not allowing any dissenting opinion (or facts) challenging the 'accepted narrative'.  Their role as Ministry of Truth is over... 

Indeed!

 

As that BBC lady said on air; 'We don't debate with the opposition; whether they are right or not.'

10 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

All truth passes through three stages:

   First, it is ridiculed.  

   Second, it is violently opposed.

   Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

 

Great quote by a great thinker. It was actually my forum signature until they removed them.

 

Stages one and two were painfully long, it's great to finally be entering stage three.

10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Everyone I know back home took multiple vaccines.

And this extends to their extended families and all the people they know at work.

Plus I worked in a large company.

Never heard one person complain about "vaccine accidents".

It's only in the conspiracy journals mostly.

If there are people, it must be extremely rare. 

 

And you people end up becoming corrupt in your attempts to dethrone the powers that be. 

You make it sound like everyone who took the jab will die just to get your point across. 

And then you become the same sort of propaganda as the govt. The flip side. 

 

 

Plenty of people claim not to have had vaccine adverse consequences, but in fact have very serious recent health issues (yes, 'correlation does not blabla'…). Loads of examples on this forum.

11 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Plenty of people claim not to have had vaccine adverse consequences, but in fact have very serious recent health issues (yes, 'correlation does not blabla'…). Loads of examples on this forum.

 

Yeah, it's ONLY on the forum.

Not in the "real world".

Forums are not 100% real due to anonymity. 

 

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Forums are not 100% real due to anonymity. 

They are not 100% real  because of  anonymity ???

 

Do you think that it would be be any more real  if there was no  anonymity ? 

I think it would be even less real..no anonymity = no free speech 

 its almost gone now, digital ID for 'the children'

long live anonymity !! 

12 hours ago, johng said:

They are not 100% real  because of  anonymity ???

 

Do you think that it would be be any more real  if there was no  anonymity ? 

I think it would be even less real..no anonymity = no free speech 

 its almost gone now, digital ID for 'the children'

long live anonymity !! 

 

The anecdote posted by the previous poster regarding the funeral director is baseless.

 

1 - No way to know if it's 100% entirely made up.

2 - Let's say it really happened. The embalmer found blood clots. No way to link blood clots to Covid vaccine. 

 

The anecdote is meant to play on people's emotions. It's completely baseless emotional manipulation. 

 

Free speech is hard work and exhausting. Because then you have to verify everything everyone says. 

 

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, it's ONLY on the forum.

Not in the "real world".

Forums are not 100% real due to anonymity. 

 

 

I have so many examples in the real world that I wouldn't know where to start. But rest assured, I am a 'conspiracy theorist', so it is merely 'baseless disinformation'.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

The anecdote posted by the previous poster regarding the funeral director is baseless.

 

1 - No way to know if it's 100% entirely made up.

2 - Let's say it really happened. The embalmer found blood clots. No way to link blood clots to Covid vaccine. 

 

The anecdote is meant to play on people's emotions. It's completely baseless emotional manipulation. 

 

Free speech is hard work and exhausting. Because then you have to verify everything everyone says. 

 

 

 

John O'Looney has been speaking about this issue for years and in his long career, only started seeing white fibrous clots after the Covid vax rollout. But here again, rest assured, it is 'baseless disinformation'. Tall John posting fact check saying 'no white blood clots exist' in 3, 2, 1…

18 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

John O'Looney has been speaking about this issue for years and in his long career, only started seeing white fibrous clots after the Covid vax rollout. But here again, rest assured, it is 'baseless disinformation'. Tall John posting fact check saying 'no white blood clots exist' in 3, 2, 1…

 

So now you're saying there is a "new type of blood clot" that has manifested since Covid that didn't exist before?

 

Not like regular ol' blood clots?

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

So now you're saying there is a "new type of blood clot"

The funeral director /embalmers are saying they see a new type of clot  that appeared after the "vaccine"  roll out...I myself  have not seen any..but I don't deal with dead bodies for a living...in these  cases we are supposed to trust the "eggspurts"   aren't we ? they say they saw a new phenomenon..well some of them say they saw something new but there are others that disagree with them..so.....  

Excellent video.  More confirmation that the cult of demons masquerading as experts are intentionally poisoning our children.

 

The Holy Bible warns us not to be ensnared in the cult of demon's trap.  This abomination actually originates in the spiritual world.  The demon cult of sorcerers first conjures up a diabolical fear and  embeds that belief of fear into the target population.  Then tricks us into approving the self mutilation treatment to stop the fear.

 

The solution, of course, is to recognize and reject the tactics of fear used by the demon cult.  This is accomplished by developing mental toughness, rejecting the poisonous beliefs and embedding more powerful beliefs based on sound doctrine. 

 

this is a story repeated over and over and over in the Holy Bible.  The demon cult is trying to be more powerful than the Holy Bible with catastrphic consequences.  The Holy Bible says those who reject the Holy Bible will suffer dearly.  The tragedy is completely preventable with knowledge.

1 hour ago, Mark Nothing said:

Excellent video.  More confirmation that the cult of demons masquerading as experts are intentionally poisoning our children.

 

The Holy Bible warns us not to be ensnared in the cult of demon's trap.  This abomination actually originates in the spiritual world.  The demon cult of sorcerers first conjures up a diabolical fear and  embeds that belief of fear into the target population.  Then tricks us into approving the self mutilation treatment to stop the fear.

 

The solution, of course, is to recognize and reject the tactics of fear used by the demon cult.  This is accomplished by developing mental toughness, rejecting the poisonous beliefs and embedding more powerful beliefs based on sound doctrine. 

 

this is a story repeated over and over and over in the Holy Bible.  The demon cult is trying to be more powerful than the Holy Bible with catastrphic consequences.  The Holy Bible says those who reject the Holy Bible will suffer dearly.  The tragedy is completely preventable with knowledge.

We must reject apathy and stop being ignorant.

 

The elite demons know, that why we are fighting among ourselves over trivialities, they cannot be challenged.

 

My fear, is that people will reject nature, for things that seemingly make their lives more convenient. But! After they see the light and reject the easy life, it will be too late.

 

By uniting, we have a chance to repair the last 120 years. We must stride forward to achieve our true destiny as humans. People died for us. We must honour them and seek out our true self worth.