10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Grok's 'brain' has probably already been reprogrammed to 'think' the right way

It was funny not long ago Grok was 'fooled' into calling itself Hitler

and that certain policies he used were justified...Grok was swiftly taken down for a quick brainwash...but shortly after it was back to supporting the same policies,  I suppose due to the body of historical work it was trained on..

I'm afraid that in the end  those that "consider themself betters"

will just scrub the historical record to solve the problem once and for all (final solution)

23 minutes ago, johng said:

It was funny not long ago Grok was 'fooled' into calling itself Hitler

and that certain policies he used were justified...Grok was swiftly taken down for a quick brainwash...but shortly after it was back to supporting the same policies,  I suppose due to the body of historical work it was trained on..

I'm afraid that in the end  those that "consider themself betters"

will just scrub the historical record to solve the problem once and for all (final solution)

 

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute.

This is one of the big dangers of allowing 'Ai'  to become the trusted source/ arbiter of truth/ fact checker..only one of many dangers from an unfettered Ai

 

1984 is indeed almost here..perhaps already too late.

17 minutes ago, johng said:

This is one of the big dangers of allowing 'Ai'  to become the trusted source/ arbiter of truth/ fact checker..only one of many dangers from an unfettered Ai

 

1984 is indeed almost here..perhaps already too late.

 

In this particular instance, it doesn't matter that AI was used.

The program was instructed to read the fake journal article and respond based on those contents only.

 

It's like asking a grade schooler to read the bible and then fill in a questionnaire on evolution based solely on the holy text.  "It says right there if you have animals mate in sight of a bunch of saplings, their offspring will come out striped, so of course evolution is false!"

 

The 2nddumbestguyintheworld knew exactly what he was doing by rigging the results to create propaganda.

 

It's the same as posting antivax screeds by chiropractors and dentists and acupuncturists and claiming "Doctors Say............" for the illusion of credibility

 

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on teevee."

 

only in this case, it's 

 

"I had my certifications stripped for malfeasance and malpractice, but I kept my white coat and stef'ascope for cosplay ads."

6 minutes ago, johng said:

This is one of the big dangers of allowing 'Ai'  to become the trusted source/ arbiter of truth/ fact checker..only one of many dangers from an unfettered Ai

 

1984 is indeed almost here..perhaps already too late.

 

Too many people have accepted it without question. The advent of AI as the new overarching vessel of Incontrovertible Truth has been depressingly easy.

 

I know personally a 38 yr old mother of three who has two daughters with autism.

She is also a Herbalist, antivaxer  evangelist  and follows in her mothers path.

Who was the mongrel who slipped her Tylenol !

 

 

10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Too many people have accepted it without question. The advent of AI as the new overarching vessel of Incontrovertible Truth has been depressingly easy.

 

He knew not what he wa doing  ! Forgive him !

At least he did not quote fictional utterances  from some hairy bloke 300 years deaded already !

23 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I know personally a 38 yr old mother of three who has two daughters with autism.

She is also a Herbalist, antivaxer  evangelist  and follows in her mothers path.

Who was the mongrel who slipped her Tylenol !

 

 

 

 

So both daughters have never received a vaccine? Most antivaxxers start by being pro-vax and then become antivax.

 

Just now, rattlesnake said:

 

 

So both daughters have never received a vaccine? Most antivaxxers start by being pro-vax and then become antivax.

 

As far as I know ..never

And knowing the 2 generations I would say never is never. Home schooled as well.

6 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

As far as I know ..never

And knowing the 2 generations I would say never is never. Home schooled as well.

 

Interesting and notable. I don't think all autism cases are vaccine-induced.

10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Interesting and notable. I don't think all autism cases are vaccine-induced.

I doubt the majority are vaccine related at all. 

There is almost  zero attention given to food additives other than  some coloring for which dangerous evidence is so demonstrably catalogued  and even then prohibition for use is delayed while some  as cheap alternative is found or created.

There are numerous additives deemed safe at specific levels that do not account for the cumulative daily intake across various food items especially in the "fast food" industry. Therefore the defense is easily made using only one item.

The basic problem is that the Corporate Overlords do not give a rats about population demise. In fact it is part of the agenda that AI has presented for that entity.

 

 Tylenol may not cause autism but can cause Kidney toxicity and Liver toxicity/liver failure. I personally use the old miracle drug Aspirin which is very hard to find in Thailand as I always pack some in my luggage as I travel. 

It would seem logical  that there is more than one cause for Autism same as for any other condition   certain things may be more likely to cause it.

53 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I doubt the majority are vaccine related at all. 

There is almost  zero attention given to food additives other than  some coloring for which dangerous evidence is so demonstrably catalogued  and even then prohibition for use is delayed while some  as cheap alternative is found or created.

There are numerous additives deemed safe at specific levels that do not account for the cumulative daily intake across various food items especially in the "fast food" industry. Therefore the defense is easily made using only one item.

The basic problem is that the Corporate Overlords do not give a rats about population demise. In fact it is part of the agenda that AI has presented for that entity.

 

 

I don't disagree with the gist of that post.

34 minutes ago, johng said:

It would seem logical  that there is more than one cause for Autism same as for any other condition   certain things may be more likely to cause it.

 

Exactly, and I look forward to seeing the exact breakdown, assessed by a truly independent body. I also think the term 'autism' is broad and could in fact include various ailments, causes and/or mechanisms.

37 minutes ago, Dan747 said:

 Tylenol may not cause autism but can cause Kidney toxicity and Liver toxicity/liver failure. I personally use the old miracle drug Aspirin which is very hard to find in Thailand as I always pack some in my luggage as I travel. 

 

Paracetamol is a poison and I have personally known that for years. Low doses occasionally is harmless and can help with a migraine, but repetitive consumption, even within the 2g/day recommended dose, is catastrophic for the liver as you have said.

It's good that awareness is being raised on the issue, the Thais need it as they are often too quick to give it to their kids at the first sign of anything.

17 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Exactly, and I look forward to seeing the exact breakdown, assessed by a truly independent body. I also think the term 'autism' is broad and could in fact include various ailments, causes and/or mechanisms.

Indeed there is a recognized and readily available chart of the "spectrum" of autistic traits.

And within those there are subtle definitions of  behavioral and learning tendencies. 

"Experts" will readily  comply with the expectations of diagnosis by the general population who are probably  not convinced unless the subject is a hand flapping inarticulate non social individual at the extreme end of the spectrum. And sadly a person to avoid in case you catch something !

 

1 minute ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Indeed there is a recognized and readily available chart of the "spectrum" of autistic traits.

And within those there are subtle definitions of  behavioral and learning tendencies. 

"Experts" will readily  comply with the expectations of diagnosis by the general population who are probably  not convinced unless the subject is a hand flapping inarticulate non social individual at the extreme end of the spectrum. And sadly a person to avoid in case you catch something !

 

I forgot to add that RFK Jnr  would probably fit somewhere  within the spectrum. 

1 minute ago, Dan747 said:

I personally use the old miracle drug Aspirin which is very hard to find in Thailand

Yes it mysteriously disappeared / was withdrawn from the market

used to be sold in 7/11..now almost like a class A drug..

They even try to suggest it is not a pain killer anymore.

4 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Paracetamol is a poison and I have personally known that for years.

This whopper is right up there with the certainty you have that Earth is the center of the solar system.  Stick to writing soap opera scripts.  Leave science to those with actual knowledge and the ability to comprehend science based material.

 

 

3 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

 

 

RFK Jr is a courageous man and working under extreme pressure.  

Luckily he has the backing of president Trump who understands exactly how the powers behind the screen  are trying to discredit him.