29 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

women who like the "bad guys" it's probably because they were abused.

and probably the same with choking.

 

 

Nope. If you think about it, a woman is weak. Physically. So back in the caveman days she needed the strongest male to protect her and to provide for her. So from an evolutionary perspective she is wired to want to strongest, baddest most dominant male.  That's why she makes a lot of noise during sex, she is signalling that she is having sex to other males in the hope a stronger male would come and mate with her instead.

 

That's at the root of sadomasochism as well, why men like submissive women. The more submissive a woman, the less the caveman had to expend energy to have sex with her. That's why men are wired to prefer submissive women. 

 

 

58 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Why does anyone NEED to choke someone or be choked during sex?

 

Erotic asphyxiation, you can possibly blame the Marquis de Sade who wrote about it in 'The Misfortunes of the Virtue', topped the best sellers list in 1791.

Is there actually an audience that seeks out such depravity in the name of pornography ?

If so then there is an equivalent urgent demand for  better mental health services in the UK !

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Is there actually an audience that seeks out such depravity in the name of pornography ?

If so then there is an equivalent urgent demand for  better mental health services in the UK !

 

 

 

No it isn't. It's perfectly normal for a modern woman to want to be choked. They grew up on porn, after all.

13 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So back in the caveman days she needed the strongest male to protect her and to provide for her

 

Yeah, so you're the resident expert on women.

 

Do women like bodybuilders if they are looking for "the strongest male to protect her"? 

 

Maybe some do. I literally saw a woman's profile on a dating app where she said "I don't care about your muscles". Maybe a lot of guys out there are trying to use their muscles to get women and some women don't even care. 

 

Your theory sounds like nonsense to me. 

35 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, so you're the resident expert on women.

 

Do women like bodybuilders if they are looking for "the strongest male to protect her"? 

 

Maybe some do. I literally saw a woman's profile on a dating app where she said "I don't care about your muscles". Maybe a lot of guys out there are trying to use their muscles to get women and some women don't even care. 

 

Your theory sounds like nonsense to me. 

 

Extreme muscularity can be associated with higher levels of testosterone and perceived dominance, which some evolutionary theories suggest may correlate with higher aggression or a lack of commitment and reduced paternal investment in offspring. For women seeking long-term, stable partners, traits signaling cooperativeness and a willingness to invest in the family unit might be prioritized over sheer physical formidability.

 

A physique that requires an extreme amount of maintenance and focus might be interpreted as a sign of vanity or self-obsession, which are generally not desirable traits in a partner from an evolutionary or social perspective.

 

Studies have shown that women's ratings of male attractiveness are highly predicted by perceived strength, but that doesn't mean "more is always better" in all contexts. The most attractive physique is often one that balances strength cues (broad shoulders, v-taper) with leanness, rather than maximizing every muscle group to an extreme degree..

 

But there is no doubt that women are attracted to strength, dominance and the "bad" male. This is why women write to serial killers as well, their monkey brain tells them this guy could kill people, if I get on his good side, he'll protect me better than a normal guy.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Extreme muscularity can be associated with higher levels of testosterone and perceived dominance, which some evolutionary theories suggest may correlate with higher aggression or a lack of commitment and reduced paternal investment in offspring. For women seeking long-term, stable partners, traits signaling cooperativeness and a willingness to invest in the family unit might be prioritized over sheer physical formidability.

 

A physique that requires an extreme amount of maintenance and focus might be interpreted as a sign of vanity or self-obsession, which are generally not desirable traits in a partner from an evolutionary or social perspective.

 

Studies have shown that women's ratings of male attractiveness are highly predicted by perceived strength, but that doesn't mean "more is always better" in all contexts. The most attractive physique is often one that balances strength cues (broad shoulders, v-taper) with leanness, rather than maximizing every muscle group to an extreme degree..

 

But there is no doubt that women are attracted to strength, dominance and the "bad" male. This is why women write to serial killers as well, their monkey brain tells them this guy could kill people, if I get on his good side, he'll protect me better than a normal guy.

 

No, you're mixing different things together.

 

A normal well-adjusted woman cares about what you mentioned in the first part of your post.

 

If a woman is entertaining "bad guys" or is into choking during sex, it's due to some psychological issues from childhood or from previous abusive exes. 

 

 

 

 

About 30% of thai girls asked me to be slapped.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, you're mixing different things together.

 

A normal well-adjusted woman cares about what you mentioned in the first part of your post.

 

If a woman is entertaining "bad guys" or is into choking during sex, it's due to some psychological issues from childhood or from previous abusive exes. 

 

 

 

 

 

We're back to the old nature vs nurture debate, in a new form, but whilst both play a role, it's undeniable the ingrained evolutionary biology aspects do play an important role.

 

If a woman is hardwired by thousands of years of evolutionary history to prefer dominant, strong, badass men, for protection, then entertaining bad guys and asking to be choked make a lot of sense from the female brain perspective.

 

It's conceivable these preferences could come up without trauma or abuse.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

If a woman is hardwired by thousands of years of evolutionary history to prefer dominant, strong, badass men, for protection, then entertaining bad guys and asking to be choked make a lot of sense from the female brain.

 

It's conceivable these preferences could come up without trauma or abuse.

 

Men are not competing with each other with physical prowess because you can't go around beating people up like in caveman days.  

 

Money, job, financial stability, and then if the girl is smart other qualities like dependable and honest and faithful etc ... are criteria normal well-adjusted women are searching for.

 

Not sure why anyone would care if you had the capacity to choke anyone. 

I must have a vanilla existence compared to some of you freaks on here. No one has ever asked me to choke them. You guys are on here bragging like it's a badge of honor or rite of passage or something. 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Men are not competing with each other with physical prowess because you can't go around beating people up like in caveman days.  

 

Money, job, financial stability, and then if the girl is smart other qualities like dependable and honest and faithful etc ... are criteria normal well-adjusted women are searching for.

 

 

Yes, they do look for that now. But jobs as we know them have only been around for 400 years or so, a mere blip in evolutionary history.

 

Whilst women do look for that now, evolutionary psychology does explain very well a number of these puzzling phenomena, women wanting to be choked, slapped, writing to serial killers, marrying serial killers, female wardens having sex with rapists and criminals. There is a dark side to women, as well as a sunny side.

 

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Not sure why anyone would care if you had the capacity to choke anyone. 

 

Women care about it, because 1) they show the man they are submissive and they enjoy being submissive 2) they like to be dominated by a strong dominant male  and 3) if a guy is too much of a wet blanket and won't even choke her when she asks, how, will he ever prevail against a really bad guy?

 

Women want to be protected. And the badder, the more dominant a man is, the more they feel he can protect her.

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I must have a vanilla existence compared to some of you freaks on here. No one has ever asked me to choke them. You guys are on here bragging like it's a badge of honor or rite of passage or something. 

 

 

Not bragging at all. Just saying a number of women have asked to be choked. As you saw, I'm not the only one.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Not bragging at all. Just saying a number of women have asked to be choked. As you saw, I'm not the only one.

 

So let's psychoanalyze you then.

 

You were happy to oblige and participate when these women asked you to choke them. 

 

And based on your "evolution theory", this act of choking made you feel masculine and powerful and dominant. 

 

And therefore, it reduced the insecurities that you have that some other dude who is more powerful than you might steal your woman away from you. 

 

 

 

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

So let's psychoanalyze you then.

 

You were happy to oblige and participate when these women asked you to choke them. 

 

And based on your "evolution theory", this act of choking made you feel masculine and powerful and dominant. 

 

And therefore, it reduced the insecurities that you have that some other dude who is more powerful than you might steal your woman away from you. 

 

 

 

 

Or let's do it with you. You said women never ask you. So there's two possibilities. Either they believe you're already so dominant, there's no need to ask or there's no chance in hell you could ever be dominant, so they never ask.

 

Hmmmm, which is it?

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Or let's do it with you. You said women never ask you. So there's two possibilities. Either they believe you're already so dominant, there's no need to ask or there's no chance in hell you could ever be dominant, so they never ask.

 

Hmmmm, which is it?

 

I'm not dominant. 

 

In fact, the opposite. When I was much younger I dated a very dominant woman and realized I was too soft and so I adjusted my character. 

 

But now it's right in the middle. Neither dominant nor tolerate women who are out of balance and trying to be dominant.  

 

Being too dominant with women has the opposite effect. They become dominant themselves because they don't like to be dominated. 

 

Evolutionarily, "protected" yes. But protected and dominated are not the same thing. 

 

Some women may remain too submissive in relationships, but is to their own detriment? 

Of course most men would like that. 

 

 

 

So triple penetration gangbangs, double anal, barely legal, siblings, golden showers,  bukkake and bondage all good to go still.

 

 

That will save the children.

Just now, MalcolmB said:

So triple penetration gangbangs, double anal, barely legal, siblings, golden showers,  bukkake and bondage all good to go still.

 

 

That will save the children.

 

Except with most gangbangs there's copious choking.

 

And if golden showers and bukkake rear their heads, choking is almost de rigeur. It would be bad form not to.

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

In fact, the opposite. When I was much younger I dated a very dominant woman and realized I was too soft and so I adjusted my character. 

 

 

Well, there you have it then, they never asked you because they thought there's no point, it was not appropriate given how you presented.

 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But protected and dominated are not the same thing. 

 

They are not, but someone who is dominant would be a better protector than somebody who is submissive, for obvious reasons. So from the female brain perspective it makes sense to seek out the badass, dominant, even criminal male. He has proven he can be bad. If he can be bad, he can protect me better. Peverse female logic at its finest.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So from the female brain perspective it makes sense to see out the badass, dominant, even criminal male. He has proven he can be bad.

 

Criminal. Lol ..

Yeah, who then ends up beating the crap out of HER. 

 

A criminal mind is all I've ever known / They tried to reform me, but I'm made of cold stone

 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, who then ends up beating the crap out of HER. 

 

Nobody said female logic was perfect.

 

Lol.

Who's watching choking porn? Married men?

No idea. Certainly not me.

 

It's digusting.

Choking the chicken, still ok?

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nobody said female logic was perfect.

 

Lol.

 

Why do women become domintrixes and go into S&M?

Goes against your prior theory.

And I'm not convinced they are well-adjusted. It's weird stuff.

Go get a Phd in psychology and get back to us. 

 

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Why do women become domintrixes and go into S&M?

Goes against your prior theory.

 

 

 

Yes, those are the out and out perversions of nature. Though 99% of them do it for pecuniary reasons.

 

However, if there is any sadistic female, she is a perversion of nature. An abomination.

12 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Who's watching choking porn? Married men?

 

Yes, mostly married men.

Because they all thought Asian women were submissive.

But once married, realized they are quite bossy and wear the pants.

And so they have to live out their fantasies of dominating women through choke porn. 

 

The real scandal here is that 50 something post-menopausal women are telling British men what porn they can and cannot watch.

 

It's outrageous. I warned you about these women over 50, but you wouldn't listen.

 

 

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

Online pornography showing choking, strangulation, or suffocation will soon be banned in the UK, under new government plans aimed at curbing violence against women and girls.

Hmmmm? Well I guess these days men can be women and girls.

Porn is already banned in the UK unless you go through the age restriction pass. Porn hub one of the biggest online sites have complained 70% online porn from the UK  has stopped.

8 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Porn is already banned in the UK unless you go through the age restriction pass. Porn hub one of the biggest online sites have complained 70% online porn from the UK  has stopped.

 

I just checked and porn hub in Thailand is blocked too!  Where am I going to get my choking porn now?

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