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Most Repubs & Dems oppose military action in Venezuela

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4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You might want to catch up on recent developments😅

2017 is not so recent. 🤣

 

Smartmatic announced its departure from Venezuela in 2017 after alleging fraud in the Constituent Assembly election.  It moved its headquarters to London

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  • Venezuela was in bed with US democrates , but even so and with the narco bs, still no justification for military action or regime change. Monroe docterine is so 20th century.

  • Even better...it's an Alex Jones lie.  By the way, is there such a thing as an Alex Jones truth?

  • In other words, you've got nothing.

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Do you actually know anything, anything at all, about Maduro and what's happened to Venezuela under his rule?

Yes indeed I do know. 

There is a lot of history there that even precedes Maduro.

Much of it is contrary to the propaganda that is/was involved in  failed coups to install a US puppet on more than one occasion.

In retaliation for failing in the attempts  the US implemented severe sanctions resulting in crippling the Venezuelan economy by 75% .

That has resulted in a vast number of Venezuelans escaping the induced poverty that the West collectively claims is a result of Maduro's corruption . 

Consequently and incrementally Venezuela has turned to allies like Russia who have indeed taken the opportunity to militarily establish a counter presence in the US back yard to that of the US in Europe. An alternative to the irritation that was thwarted in Cuba.

Trump being the paper tiger he and his gormless administration is now attempt to posture with threats but hard pressed Americans on both sides of a rotting political fence are well aware that a military conflict with Venezuela will not be against stupido Latinos but a well armed and angry population that will once again take  young lives for no other reason that to pump up the  ego of an ignorant wannabe trying to please his handlers.

Check the real history ! 

Not the sanitized bs replacement ! 

 

 

On 11/24/2025 at 11:26 AM, Alan Zweibel said:

CBS News poll finds most would oppose U.S. military action in Venezuela, say Trump hasn't explained

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-venezuela-u-s-military-action-trump/

 

Remember when Trump supporters were here were praising Trump for keeping America at peace?

How did you get "oppose military action" (from your title to this thread), from the graph "Needs to Explain"...of course this is from the "very highly reliable" CBS poll 🙄

 

Your word "oppose" is a far stretch from "needs to explain".  You need to explain the difference as I oppose your misleading title.  But I would expect nothing less from the OP.

 

 

2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Spare me your conspiracy theories.

Typical non-answer.  

 

Anti-Trumper: "Trump is a fascist"

Reporter: "Give me an example or explanation of why you say Trump is a fascist"

Anti-Trumper: "Oh there are many things. Just go look it up"

Reporter: "just name one thing"

Anti-Trumper: "I'm done talking to you"

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21 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

How did you get "oppose military action" (from your title to this thread), from the graph "Needs to Explain"...of course this is from the "very highly reliable" CBS poll 🙄

 

Your word "oppose" is a far stretch from "needs to explain".  You need to explain the difference as I oppose your misleading title.  But I would expect nothing less from the OP.

 

 

And your inability to follow a link is nothing less than I would expect from you.

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18 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Typical non-answer.  

 

Anti-Trumper: "Trump is a fascist"

Reporter: "Give me an example or explanation of why you say Trump is a fascist"

Anti-Trumper: "Oh there are many things. Just go look it up"

Reporter: "just name one thing"

Anti-Trumper: "I'm done talking to you"

I wasn't the one making the claim about Venezuela. What's moreI have no idea why you chose to insert an imaginary and irrelevant dialog about Trump and fascism into your comments. Still, it's nothing less than I would expect from you.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And your inability to follow a link is nothing less than I would expect from you.

Your assessment of my skills is an honor

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I wasn't the one making the claim about Venezuela. What's moreI have no idea why you chose to insert an imaginary and irrelevant dialog about Trump and fascism into your comments. Still, it's nothing less than I would expect from you.

Your assessment of my skills is an honor x2.

According to the headline, Dims & Pubes agree on something. But oh no! Not on AN! The bickering continues.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Ask the Nobel Peace Prize committee. 

I don't see the relevance.

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3 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

According to the headline, Dims & Pubes agree on something. But oh no! Not on AN! The bickering continues.

You should reread the headline: 

Most Repubs & Dems oppose military action in Venezuela

Just now, Alan Zweibel said:

 

You should reread the headline: 

Most Repubs & Dems oppose military action in Venezuela

You got me there.

 

"The brain is quicker than the eye."

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8 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

You got me there.

 

"The brain is quicker than the eye."

If you're conceding that you got it wrong, I'm pretty sure that's a violation of the forum's rules. If you do it again I'm going to have to report you to the Mods.

4 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Yes indeed I do know. 

There is a lot of history there that even precedes Maduro.

Much of it is contrary to the propaganda that is/was involved in  failed coups to install a US puppet on more than one occasion.

In retaliation for failing in the attempts  the US implemented severe sanctions resulting in crippling the Venezuelan economy by 75% .

That has resulted in a vast number of Venezuelans escaping the induced poverty that the West collectively claims is a result of Maduro's corruption . 

Consequently and incrementally Venezuela has turned to allies like Russia who have indeed taken the opportunity to militarily establish a counter presence in the US back yard to that of the US in Europe. An alternative to the irritation that was thwarted in Cuba.

Trump being the paper tiger he and his gormless administration is now attempt to posture with threats but hard pressed Americans on both sides of a rotting political fence are well aware that a military conflict with Venezuela will not be against stupido Latinos but a well armed and angry population that will once again take  young lives for no other reason that to pump up the  ego of an ignorant wannabe trying to please his handlers.

Check the real history ! 

Not the sanitized bs replacement ! 

 

 

I see you've picked a  side.

The side of Russia and Iran.

Trump is a Putinesque American president. 

He might wag the dog with Venezuela to try to save himself.

He doesn't really have an ideology like a normal politician.

His ideology is Trump himself.

I'm on the side of the majority of Venezuelan people who do want Maduro out.

I would like to see Maduro out as well, but the USA does not need a war there.

 

If Trump is serious it would only be reasonable to offer both of his sons for frontline duty. 

 

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course the vast majority of Americans would oppose that.

On the other hand, personally I wouldn't mind a little behind the scenes machinations to help bring Maduro down. 

You mean like in Iraq?

 

1 hour ago, Jim Blue said:

You mean like in Iraq?

 

No.

You obviously haven't read my posts.

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

If Trump is serious it would only be reasonable to offer both of his sons for frontline duty. 

 

There are three.

All have bone spurs.

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I see you've picked a  side.

The side of Russia and Iran.

Trump is a Putinesque American president. 

He might wag the dog with Venezuela to try to save himself.

He doesn't really have an ideology like a normal politician.

His ideology is Trump himself.

I'm on the side of the majority of Venezuelan people who do want Maduro out.

I would like to see Maduro out as well, but the USA does not need a war there.

 

I have picked no side.

I recognize that interference in the internal politics of any sovereign nation by another for reasons brazenly false and self interested  justification is as great or perhaps more reprehensible .

I think you accept chapter and verse of propaganda .

2 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I have picked no side.

I recognize that interference in the internal politics of any sovereign nation by another for reasons brazenly false and self interested  justification is as great or perhaps more reprehensible .

I think you accept chapter and verse of propaganda .

If you deny what Maduro has done to his own people, you are delusional. Sorry, you have taken a side.

I'm with the Venezuelan people. 

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If you deny what Maduro has done to his own people, you are delusional. Sorry, you have taken a side.

I'm with the Venezuelan people. 

I do not deny what has been done to the Venezuelan people. 

If you were really on the side of the Venezuelan people you would be more cognizant of the total history.

The imposition of faux salvation has a very negative record.

Bye.

Military action ? I would imagine if the orders are illegal, the Admiral will have his Fleet come around to a Heading of 030 degrees and leave the Venezuelan coast and best speed.........😉 

12 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Yes indeed I do know. 

There is a lot of history there that even precedes Maduro.

Much of it is contrary to the propaganda that is/was involved in  failed coups to install a US puppet on more than one occasion.

In retaliation for failing in the attempts  the US implemented severe sanctions resulting in crippling the Venezuelan economy by 75% .

That has resulted in a vast number of Venezuelans escaping the induced poverty that the West collectively claims is a result of Maduro's corruption . 

Consequently and incrementally Venezuela has turned to allies like Russia who have indeed taken the opportunity to militarily establish a counter presence in the US back yard to that of the US in Europe. An alternative to the irritation that was thwarted in Cuba.

Trump being the paper tiger he and his gormless administration is now attempt to posture with threats but hard pressed Americans on both sides of a rotting political fence are well aware that a military conflict with Venezuela will not be against stupido Latinos but a well armed and angry population that will once again take  young lives for no other reason that to pump up the  ego of an ignorant wannabe trying to please his handlers.

Check the real history ! 

Not the sanitized bs replacement ! 

 

 

 

Chavez trashed PDVSA, the Venezuelan state oil company, to feed his socialist dream. The collapse had less to do with sanctions than giving a man enough rope. Then he died. Oh dear, how sad, never mind. Maduro just inherited the s***show and milked it harder.

 

PEMEX, the Mexican state-owned oil company is so much in debt, some companies and contractors have given up on being paid ever, and have simply folded the tent and left. No *crippling" US sanctions involved there. Just more of the same Latin American corruption with a less socialist flavour.

 

Like Cuba, they all turn in desperation to the leeches of Russian "support". I was working in Cuba when the Kremlin decided to walk away from their decades-long oil-for-sugar "deal" with Castro. That's when it appeared that just about everyone wanted to escape on an inner tube to the Florida Keys.

13 hours ago, howlee101 said:

Typical non-answer.  

 

Anti-Trumper: "Trump is a fascist"

Reporter: "Give me an example or explanation of why you say Trump is a fascist"

Anti-Trumper: "Oh there are many things. Just go look it up"

Reporter: "just name one thing"

Anti-Trumper: "I'm done talking to you"

well, let's see:

-heavily armed paramilitary force that answers to no one really except the President grabbing people deemed as racial/cultural "undesirables" and sending them to prison camps with no accountability or transparency about what happens to them

 

-sending actual military into large cities for no real reason except the local city governments are opposed to the dictator politically

 

-getting people even mildly critical of the dictator's policy fired from media outlets. Buyouts of newspapers and TV networks by billionaires sympathetic to the dictator

 

-going HARD on scapegoating small, relatively powerless minority groups

 

-dictating which public figures are worthy of public mourning rituals and which are not. Ignoring or even celebrating violence against some people, making examples of others that fit their narrative

 

-shows of violence and cruelty like bombing people in random small boats outside of the country's jurisdiction and making up lies about who those people were

 

-alliance with and hero worship of brutal dictators in other countries, admiring them as promoting "law and order"

 

Shall I go on? I could. These are all happening here now.

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No.

You obviously haven't read my posts.

If you think  I am going to have to wade through 130k posts 

to understand an answer to a simple question ,

.well perhaps you should post less and engage brain more.

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