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Israel needs independent oversight of the IDF

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According to recent reports from the UN Commission of Inquiry and Israeli human rights organizations such as B’Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights Israel, there is mounting evidence that the IDF has committed acts that meet the legal definition of genocide under the 1948 Convention. These include mass killings, destruction of infrastructure, and actions that suggest an intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

 

1. Revenge

The flattening of approximately 80% of Gaza’s infrastructure has been cited as evidence of revenge rather than strategic necessity. While the IDF claims these operations were aimed at dismantling Hamas’s military capabilities, the scale of destruction has raised questions about proportionality and the protection of civilian life.

 

2. Restriction of food, water, medical supplies

 Reports of deliberate starvation tactics – such as blocking aid, restricting food and water supplies, and targeting agricultural infrastructure – have led some observers to accuse Israel of using starvation as a weapon of war.

 

3. Torture

Another deeply troubling issue, revealed when reports about IDF conduct at the Sde Teiman army base were published in the media. In Sde Teiman, Palestinian detainees are held in secrecy, with little oversight. While Israel has laws prohibiting torture, human rights organizations have documented cases of abuse, particularly during interrogations of Palestinian detainees.

 

As Gaza genocide allegations mount, Israel needs independent oversight of the ID

 

To address these concerns, it is imperative to establish an independent body tasked with scrutinizing the IDF’s operations. This body should be empowered to conduct investigations, issue periodic reports, and recommend reforms. It must be insulated from political pressures and composed of experts in international law, human rights, and military ethics. Transparency should be a guiding principle, with findings made accessible to the public and subject to parliamentary review.

 

Palestinians walk among buildings destroyed during the recent war in Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip, November 22, 2025 (credit: ABED RAHIM KHATIB/FLASH90)Khan Yunis.jpg

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Cold blooded execution by the IDF

 

Israeli soldiers on Thursday appeared to kill a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they had surrendered to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating. FRANCE 24's Noga Tarnopolsky reports from Jerusalem.

 

Palestinian Authority accuses Israel of 'war crime' after summary 'execution' in West Bank | Watch

 

 

3 hours ago, bannork said:

Cold blooded execution by the IDF

 

Israeli soldiers on Thursday appeared to kill a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they had surrendered to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.”

 

     They wont be being exchanged for hostages in the future 

3 hours ago, bannork said:

Cold blooded execution by the IDF

 

Israeli soldiers on Thursday appeared to kill a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they had surrendered to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating. FRANCE 24's Noga Tarnopolsky reports from Jerusalem.

 

Palestinian Authority accuses Israel of 'war crime' after summary 'execution' in West Bank | Watch

 

 


I have watched the video, it’s impossible to deny that it’s a war crime

I can see that such oversight would be very useful, but good luck trying to impose that on ANY sovereign nation.

8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:


I have watched the video, it’s impossible to deny that it’s a war crime

 

    They arent at war in Judea/West bank , so, it couldn't be a war crime .

"Using excessive force in an arrest" would be the charge 

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    They arent at war in Judea/West bank , so, it couldn't be a war crime .

"Using excessive force in an arrest" would be the charge 


You clearly haven’t watched the video, the charge would be premeditated murder

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I can see that such oversight would be very useful, but good luck trying to impose that on ANY sovereign nation.

 

Well when it comes for example to nuclear weapons or the use of atomic energy there are organizations like the IAEA or the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) which offer some kind of oversight.

 

Meaning there are sovereign nations, who understand that they are not alone on this planet or somehow chosen and allow controls and sign those treaties, respecting that other nations have the same right to safety.

 

Some don`t. Who might that be? Which country is completely uncontrolled while demanding full control over the neighboring countries?

 

 

 

Israel is not a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and has not accepted IAEA safeguards on some of its principle nuclear activities. 

Funny how it is called a war crime when the "good guys" do something, but is never mentioned when the baddies do the same or worse.

The West has turned soft. The bad guys know this and use it against us.

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

     They wont be being exchanged for hostages in the future 

 

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    They arent at war in Judea/West bank , so, it couldn't be a war crime .

"Using excessive force in an arrest" would be the charge 

 

Isn`t it amazing how @Nick Carter icp justifies even the worst crimes of Israel?

 

Unbelievable!

 

Me, being German, asked myself since I was old enough to learn about the Holocaust, how this was possible, how regular people would allow it to happen and if that generation of my grandparents was just completely insane or evil (which I could not imagine as my granny was the nicest person I ever met.

 

I got a lot of answers in here.

 

All you need are a few evil people to carry out those crimes and a huge mass of people who are stupid and easily fooled, that those crimes are somehow ok, by making  them believe, they are somehow better or superior to the victims and before you know it, all of their compassion and humanity goes out of the window.

 

I bet, every single pro Israel member in here thinks he is somehow better than Muslims and looks down on them despite he personally never had a single bad experience with one, or at least none, which could explain why he can watch day in day out Muslims being slaughtered without any emotional reaction.

 

Brainwash accomplished.

10 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Funny how it is called a war crime when the "good guys" do something, but is never mentioned when the baddies do the same or worse.

The West has turned soft. The bad guys know this and use it against us.

 

You really think the West is the "good guys"?

 

Where have you been in the last quarter century? Hibernating?

 

Maybe you want to make a body count.

 

15 hours ago, bannork said:

Cold blooded execution by the IDF

 

Israeli soldiers on Thursday appeared to kill a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they had surrendered to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating. FRANCE 24's Noga Tarnopolsky reports from Jerusalem.

 

Palestinian Authority accuses Israel of 'war crime' after summary 'execution' in West Bank | Watch

 

 

 

This deserves to be posted as a topic on it's own.  It's impossible to deny it's a war crime and indicates exactly what's going on and hidden from view.

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

You really think the West is the "good guys"?

 

Where have you been in the last quarter century? Hibernating?

 

Maybe you want to make a body count.

 

You have proven my point. The self loathing of the west is getting stronger, aided and abetted by the woke lefties.

Everyone conveniently forgets what started this conflict. The Hamas murderous bastards killing and taking hostages from a music concert.

As far as I am concerned the Palestinians brought this on themselves. They support Hamas both directly and indirectly.

The gloves came off a long time ago. I very much doubt Israel cares about what other nations think.

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

You really think the West is the "good guys"?

Yes

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

Me, being German, asked myself since I was old enough to learn about the Holocaust, how this was possible, how regular people would allow it to happen and if that generation of my grandparents was just completely insane or evil (which I could not imagine as my granny was the nicest person I ever met.

Germany attacked Russia and was destroyed in the process.   The Palestinians attacked Israel and got punched in the face big time. 

1 minute ago, TedG said:

Germany attacked Russia and was destroyed in the process.   The Palestinians attacked Israel and got punched in the face big time. 

 

     Germany needed to be completely defeated and surrender before the war could finish .

   Same as Palestine , they nee to be completely defeated and surrender as well .

    Germany lost some land after WW2 as well , no reason why   Palestine shouldn't lose some land as well .

    Punishment for being the aggressor 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

     Germany needed to be completely defeated and surrender before the war could finish .

   Same as Palestine , they nee to be completely defeated and surrender as well .

    Germany lost some land after WW2 as well , no reason why   Palestine shouldn't lose some land as well .

    Punishment for being the aggressor 

Exactly, HAMAS needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. 

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15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:


I have watched the video, it’s impossible to deny that it’s a war crime

I just watched that video.  The guys come out, hands up, one pulls up his shirt to show there are no weapons, the Israelis motion them to get back in the room and as soon as they enter they are shot with their hands up.  They didn't know they are being videoed in the distance, so the IDF story was that the Palestinians made a threatening move.  The video flat out shows the two with their hands up and following the IDF instructions as they are shot in cold blood.

I'm so tired of watching these murders.  And I'm more tired of people making excuses for Israeli and IDF war crimes.

5 hours ago, connda said:

I just watched that video.  The guys come out, hands up, one pulls up his shirt to show there are no weapons, the Israelis motion them to get back in the room and as soon as they enter they are shot with their hands up.  They didn't know they are being videoed in the distance, so the IDF story was that the Palestinians made a threatening move.  The video flat out shows the two with their hands up and following the IDF instructions as they are shot in cold blood.

I'm so tired of watching these murders.  And I'm more tired of people making excuses for Israeli and IDF war crimes.

It's only a war crime when the good guys do it. Terrorist murdering old ladies and using the ladies own phone to post it on their own Facebook page is, apparently, acceptable.

Beheading babies seems to be ok too.

Go Israel, destroy this scum and their supporters. Go for the Ayatollahs in Iran next.

But spare the gays in the west who support them. They have a special place in hell. Idiots.

 

To all the thumbs down guys. What is your answer?

Two state solution that has been in place for decades? Allowing the Hamas keep firing rockets at Israel.

The other Muslim nations don't support Hamas apart from Iran.

Egypt built a wall to keep Palestinians out.

So please tell me what your solution is.

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5 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

To all the thumbs down guys. What is your answer?

Two state solution that has been in place for decades? Allowing the Hamas keep firing rockets at Israel.

The other Muslim nations don't support Hamas apart from Iran.

Egypt built a wall to keep Palestinians out.

So please tell me what your solution is.

A new potential path to peace - The War in Israel - Thailand News and Discussion Forum | ASEANNOW

 

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9 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Thanks for the link. Can you formulate your own opinion/ answer?

 

 

Multilateral land swaps is a possibility. Ideally Israel would pull out of the West Bank and dismantle all its illegal settlements but they would never do that unless the West, including the US, ceased assisting Israel, militarily and economically.

 

A win win situation.

Egypt gives the Palestinians land adjacent to Gaza, doubling or even tripling its size.

Israel compensates Egypt with equal-sized land along their common border.

The Palestinians provide Israel with equal land in the West Bank ,6%-12%.

 

What makes this swap so effective is that no party gains or loses net territory, but the Palestinians and Israel gain territory where they need it the most.

 

An expanded Gaza becomes viable for the long term.

Israel retains key settlements and defensible territory in the West Bank.

Egypt gains economic incentives and support from the international community, along with infrastructure links through Israel to Jordan.

 

For such a solution to work there would have to be more visionary governments in place in both Israel ( elections next year) and the USA. Until then, there is the problem of what to do with Hamas who won't lay down their weapons without safe passage to a third country or an amnesty.

Whilst Qatar and Turkey have hosted Hamas political leaders, neither has publicly agreed to take in a large number of rank-and-file Hamas fighters from Gaza. That's not going to happen

 

Dismantling of Hamas and other militias in Gaza is the first step.

 

 An amnesty for Hamas, in exchange for laying down their weapons, seems the best option, and this brings into play the confederation concept whereby  the two states, Jordan and Palestine, share foreign and defence policy, while maintaining their own national identities and separate civil governance.

 

During a transitional period, Jordan would retain overall control over the confederation’s military and intelligence apparatus and ensure that the Palestinian state remain demilitarized, although Israel would retain the right to conduct counterterror operations, as necessary, in coordination with it.

 

Fair elections in Gaza free from intimidation and violence.

 

it's well known that after Hamas's election win back in 2006, their opponents were imprisoned, tortured or worse. 

Gazans have not known freedom since then. Of course the situation was worsened by support from Netanyahu for Hamas, channelling money to them from Qatar to counter the Palestine Authority in the West Bank.

And now you have support from the Israelis for militia in Gaza opposed to Hamas.

 

Disarmament of all these factions is necessary ,which is where Jordan's initial control of Gaza comes in.

Constitutional guarantees would ensure Jordan has emergency authorities and veto power. Strong security partnerships with Israel and the US would provide further assurances.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

 

Multilateral land swaps is a possibility. Ideally Israel would pull out of the West Bank and dismantle all its illegal settlements but they would never do that unless the West, including the US, ceased assisting Israel, militarily and economically.

 

A win win situation.

Egypt gives the Palestinians land adjacent to Gaza, doubling or even tripling its size.

Israel compensates Egypt with equal-sized land along their common border.

The Palestinians provide Israel with equal land in the West Bank ,6%-12%.

 

What makes this swap so effective is that no party gains or loses net territory, but the Palestinians and Israel gain territory where they need it the most.

 

An expanded Gaza becomes viable for the long term.

Israel retains key settlements and defensible territory in the West Bank.

Egypt gains economic incentives and support from the international community, along with infrastructure links through Israel to Jordan.

 

For such a solution to work there would have to be more visionary governments in place in both Israel ( elections next year) and the USA. Until then, there is the problem of what to do with Hamas who won't lay down their weapons without safe passage to a third country or an amnesty.

Whilst Qatar and Turkey have hosted Hamas political leaders, neither has publicly agreed to take in a large number of rank-and-file Hamas fighters from Gaza. That's not going to happen

 

Dismantling of Hamas and other militias in Gaza is the first step.

 

 An amnesty for Hamas, in exchange for laying down their weapons, seems the best option, and this brings into play the confederation concept whereby  the two states, Jordan and Palestine, share foreign and defence policy, while maintaining their own national identities and separate civil governance.

 

During a transitional period, Jordan would retain overall control over the confederation’s military and intelligence apparatus and ensure that the Palestinian state remain demilitarized, although Israel would retain the right to conduct counterterror operations, as necessary, in coordination with it.

 

Fair elections in Gaza free from intimidation and violence.

 

it's well known that after Hamas's election win back in 2006, their opponents were imprisoned, tortured or worse. 

Gazans have not known freedom since then. Of course the situation was worsened by support from Netanyahu for Hamas, channelling money to them from Qatar to counter the Palestine Authority in the West Bank.

And now you have support from the Israelis for militia in Gaza opposed to Hamas.

 

Disarmament of all these factions is necessary ,which is where Jordan's initial control of Gaza comes in.

Constitutional guarantees would ensure Jordan has emergency authorities and veto power. Strong security partnerships with Israel and the US would provide further assurances.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck with that. Iran Ayatollahs will continue their funding and attacks.

They are dreaming.

Nothing but the total annihilation of Israel will suffice.

 

Of course if the Saudis get involved that may change things,

They hate the Iranian Ayatollahs too.

Don't you just love religion.

35 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Good luck with that. Iran Ayatollahs will continue their funding and attacks.

They are dreaming.

Nothing but the total annihilation of Israel will suffice.

 

Of course if the Saudis get involved that may change things,

They hate the Iranian Ayatollahs too.

Don't you just love religion.

That's the problem. Someone posts an extensive opinion, reasoned as well, and the answer is the same as always. No answer to the content, only the standard blaming.

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That's the problem. Someone posts an extensive opinion, reasoned as well, and the answer is the same as always. No answer to the content, only the standard blaming.

That's the problem with religion.

There is no answer, only death. It's been like from time immemorial.

6 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

That's the problem with religion.

There is no answer, only death.

Which means Israel shouldn't have been founded.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Which means Israel shouldn't have been founded.

Probably not.

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

It's only a war crime when the good guys do it.

 

Obviously not as the "good guys" as you portrait the West has committed horrible war crimes only in the last quarter century, killing Hundred Thousands in Afghanistan to find a terrorist, who was actually in a neighboring country and more than a Million in Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction only there weren`t any.  And now the good guys are supporting a genocide in Gaza and the theft of land in the West Bank betraying all the accomplishments of the post war generation. 

 

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Terrorist murdering old ladies and using the ladies own phone to post it on their own Facebook page is, apparently, acceptable.

 

Well, you are contradicting yourself by calling them terrorists which implies their deeds somehow apparently not to be acceptable.

 

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Beheading babies seems to be ok too.

 

Hamas never beheaded babies. That was a by now long debunked lie.

 

Israel did so and later killed kids with shots to the head, chest and abdomen, depending on the day of the week.

 

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Go Israel, destroy this scum and their supporters. Go for the Ayatollahs in Iran next.

But spare the gays in the west who support them. They have a special place in hell. Idiots.

 

So you hate Muslims and gays, whom you give a special place in hell.

 

When you openly support Israel and ask them for more mass murder, where exactly do you think your place will be in the afterlife?

 

I would not be surprised if Luzifer himself would push you into some dark room, lock the door and wait only long enough for you to realize that your are not only in a dark room but actually in a darkroom with all the gays you mentioned and then laughingly melt the key in one of his huge fires. 

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