2 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

R Smith thinks that only you and him are the intellectual standouts here. 

 

I would say that anyone who did not take the covid jabs , for whatever reason,  have been proven to possess a great deal more intelligence than those who followed "the approved science" ,

 

Common sense is greatly undervalued .

 

 

 

I agree. During Covid, I saw "higher educated" and "smart" people behave like complete retards.

54 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Now you'll see below it affected mostly males between 12 and 39. I found that very odd. Why males? And why would males from 12 to 39 be more affected than children and elderly people? In theory, if it's a straightforward case of the vaccine being dangerous, then the most vulnerable groups would be the most affected. The elderly and young children would have the highest rates, but that's not the case. 

 

I will venture to guess that these are heavy drug users perhaps? And it's the vaccine in combination with the drugs they are using that caused the severe myocarditis. 

 

If you have a better explanation, please let me know. 

 

Maybe this partly expains it:

As the shots cause a strong immune response and disruption, it has been observed over time that younger and fitter people were more susceptible to bad adverse reactions. Also, physical exercise exacerbates these inflammatory problems greatly (which is why McCullough reminds everyone that it was pure madness to let sporty people go back and exercise after their shots, given what was already known at the time).

On 12/6/2025 at 9:51 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Ever since the roll-out of the mRNA Covid-19 jab roll-out Mark Crispin MILLER and his team have been posting daily overviews of 'sudden unexpected deaths' obituaries from all over the globe (but mostly from US). 

A single anecdote is not evidence as the vax-shills keep reminding us, but the continual stream of hundreds of 'unexpected' deaths or grave illnesses from the jabbed is impossible to ignore.  And the many that were confronted with  the death or decline of a previously healthy loved one in the wake of these being jabbed, and that are looking for answers are fuelling the vax-hesitancy which is at an all-time high. 

 

Below the obituary of Thomas S. Moore, a man that previously was never ill but whose health nose-dived after the jab and led to his death. 

= = = 

What should have been in his obituary

Source: https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/what-should-have-been-in-his-obituary

 

Scroll down for the details of Moore’s story, from a longtime friend of his:

Thomas S. Moore, 65

 

WYNANTSKILL, NY – Thomas S. Moore, age 65, a longtime resident of Wynantskill, died suddenly on Friday morning, November 28, 2025. After his education, Tom pursued a life-long career in real estate, owning apartment buildings around Albany, N.Y. Tom spent the majority of his young life in Albany, making friendships that lasted a lifetime.

No cause of death reported.

Link

Tom and I were friends for over 30 years. He took a Pfizer Covid injection which caused low platelets that almost killed him. I pleaded with him not to take another injection, but other friends prevailed, and he took a second injection. He then developed a baseball-sized cancerous stomach tumor. After surgery and six months of chemotherapy, he was finally feeling healthy. Two months ago, he underwent open heart surgery and was again feeling great. Last Friday, he went into the bathroom, slipped, and hit his head on the sink. He had been taking blood thinners since the heart surgery, and he bled out and died alone.

In all the years I knew him, he never even had a cold.

My grandson’s wife, age 28, has been battling stage 4 colon cancer for 2 ½ years. She took two Pfizer injections, as she was told by authorities that she could not board a plane without them. She needed to fly from NY to Oregon to help her brother through a serious marital situation. When she arrived at the airport, not one person asked about her shot status. Audrey is now at home on hospice care and is gravely ill.’

I have been compiling a list of relatives, friends and neighbors seriously injured or killed by the shots. I now have 45 people listed.

Joan Ross

"but the continual stream of hundreds of 'unexpected' deaths or grave illnesses from the jabbed is impossible to ignore."

 

Impossible for you maybe.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Maybe this partly expains it:

As the shots cause a strong immune response and disruption, it has been observed over time that younger and fitter people were more susceptible to bad adverse reactions. Also, physical exercise exacerbates these inflammatory problems greatly (which is why McCullough reminds everyone that it was pure madness to let sporty people go back and exercise after their shots, given what was already known at the time).

 

Yes, either drugs or physical exercise or Both + maybe sth else too must be causing the problem.

 

A vaccine is a medical intervention, almost like a minor surgery. Or like when you donate blood, the nurse tells you that you cannot exercise the same day. 

 

So I am guessing a lot of people take it too lightly and go out and do rigorous exercise right away. Or I wonder if even alcohol conflicts with the vaccine.

 

Maybe the people administering the vaccine did not do a good enough job of warning people to rest for 72 hours. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

why McCullough reminds everyone that it was pure madness to let sporty people go back and exercise after their shots, given what was already known at the time).

 

What do you men "let"?

You can't control what people do after the vaccine.

They should have been given more instructions about the risks of exercise, probably. 

And even then, some people would have ignored the warnings. 

Especially teens who understand nothing about this and think they will live forever. 

 

 

 

On 12/13/2025 at 10:10 AM, Stiddle Mump said:

This is simply monumental humbug Sir.

 

There is no such thing as a flu vaccine'.

 

Dear me. Have you not been reading my posts? The flu is a natural body occurrence. It is very good for us. The reasons we get the flu are complex. But to put it in a nutshell, it is the body ridding itself of stored undesirables before the winter sets in. That's why it is often triggered during autumn. The body is protecting itself (you and me).

 

Now given the above, how can anyone devise a 'vaccine' to prevent a natural event?

 

Why do trees shed their leaves at certain times? It's nature at work. Same as the onset of flu.

 

"Have you not been reading my posts? "

 

Haven't you joined in the snark hunt?

 

“Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
    That alone should encourage the crew.
Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
    What I tell you three times is true.”

 

"The phrase "What I tell you three times is true" 

comes from Lewis Carroll's nonsense poem The Hunting of the Snark, spoken by the Bellman, suggesting that repetition can create a sense of truth, even if it's absurd, as the crew believes his repeated pronouncements about a perfect place for a Snark. This idea, known as the "Bellman's rule," satirizes how repetition can be used to assert falsehoods as facts, a concept relevant today with misinformation"

from the Google AI summary

 

 

6 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

"Have you not been reading my posts? "

 

Haven't you joined in the snark hunt?

 

“Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice:
    That alone should encourage the crew.
Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice:
    What I tell you three times is true.”

 

The phrase "What I tell you three times is true" 

comes from Lewis Carroll's nonsense poem The Hunting of the Snark, spoken by the Bellman, suggesting that repetition can create a sense of truth, even if it's absurd, as the crew believes his repeated pronouncements about a perfect place for a Snark. This idea, known as the "Bellman's rule," satirizes how repetition can be used to assert falsehoods as facts, a concept relevant today with misinformation

 

Yep, like the billion-times repeated mantra 'safe and effective'...

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

What do you mean "let"?

You can't control what people do after the vaccine.

They should have been given more instructions about the risks of exercise, probably. 

And even then, some people would have ignored the warnings. 

Especially teens who understand nothing about this and think they will live forever. 

 

 

 

 

I mean what the FDA is reportedly discussing right now (c.f. the Reuters article I posted yesterday in this thread), which is the addition of a black box warning to the Covid vaccine saying that there is a risk of death.

 

A significant deviation from the 'Safe & Effective' mantra, don't you think?

 

I doubt many people would have gone out to exercise after being properly informed… In fact I doubt they would have taken the vaccine at all… and there lies the crux of the issue: the infamous and all-encompassing need to 'fight vaccine hesitancy'.

 

Let us not forget that 2021 and 2022 were the years where everyone had to be inoculated without exception, with no room for questions or debate and the leveraging of censorship practices which would have made Kim Jung Un proud (as admitted by Zuckerberg himself).

 

This was not a medical issue, it was a political one and the process was riddled with corruption and malevolence accross the baord.

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

This was not a medical issue, it was a political one and the process was riddled with corruption and malevolence accross the baord.

 

I just looked it up and found this:

But ...

1 - I never heard this before

2 - Other web sites are giving completely different information, including claiming that it's safe and even beneficial to exercise after the vaccine.

 

So clearly, the spreading of information was not handled well at all.

Negligence for sure. 

 

https://nuhsplus.edu.sg/article/after-covid-19-vaccination-to-work-out-or-not-to-work-out

 

Vaccine-related myocarditis is a rare side effect of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Most people who develop this condition have mild symptoms and recover without long-lasting issues.

To avoid aggravating this condition in those at risk, the Ministry of Health (MOH) has recommended that people should avoid strenuous physical activity for two weeks after receiving either of their mRNA Covid-19 vaccination doses.

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

So clearly, the spreading of information was not handled well at all.

Negligence for sure. 

 

I would say 'negligence' is a big understatement.

 

 

4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I would say 'negligence' is a big understatement.

 

 

 

I suggest you keep an open mind about vaccines because they aren't going anywhere. The discussion about vaccines treating cancer is alive and well and will continue. 

 

And maybe it's best to keep an open mind and not dismiss everything as fake science. 

 

This just popped in my feeds. You can dismiss it as a giant "hoax" I guess ... 

 

Dr. Tony Hampton walks you through the new nanoparticle cancer vaccine study that stopped up to 88% of tumors in mice, and explains how it works by supercharging your natural killer cells and killer T cells.

 

 

9 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I would say 'negligence' is a big understatement.

 

 

 

Maybe too complex to manage - vaccinating the entire population at once. 

So they had to cut corners. 

 

10 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I suggest you keep an open mind about vaccines because they aren't going anywhere. The discussion about vaccines treating cancer is alive and well and will continue. 

 

And maybe it's best to keep an open mind and not dismiss everything as fake science. 

 

This just popped in my feeds. You can dismiss it as a giant "hoax" I guess ... 

 

Dr. Tony Hampton walks you through the new nanoparticle cancer vaccine study that stopped up to 88% of tumors in mice, and explains how it works by supercharging your natural killer cells and killer T cells.

 

 

 

I will not be injecting myself with anything prophylactically ever again. Cancer is preventable through lifestyle habits, and in the unfortunate case that it should occur nonetheless, there are effective treatments such as ivermectin and fembendazole.

 

People should be free to do whatever they want to, and that includes the freedom to get vaccinated. But it should always be a personal choice and not coerced in any way. If all vaccine mandates are unequivocally removed, that will be satisfactory to me.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I agree. During Covid, I saw "higher educated" and "smart" people behave like complete retards.

 

Exactly .......  but do you know how many thousands of  nice modern homes have sprung up all over the little villages in Thailand ?    

Sign in Thai :   my sick buffalo paid for this .

 

oops, sorry.    wrong topic 🥰

34 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I would say 'negligence' is a big understatement.

 

 

 

Another BIG reason i refuse to debate this nonsense with ..... well, anyone who was complicit with the tyrannical narratives and mandates which are still destroying the lives of the blind followers. 

 

And believe me .... IF the time comes again, and the same hammer comes down, but even harder .....even these  (just) followers will be the ones happy  to have a job ;   manning the jail cells you are put in.

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yep, like the billion-times repeated mantra 'safe and effective'...

Get the jab to save Granny.

Keep 6 feet apart.

Put the mask on when you stand up.

Put the mask on between mouthfuls.

No hiking on the moors.

Safe n effective.

Get the jab to save the NHS.

2 weeks to flatten the curve.

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

I suggest you keep an open mind about vaccines because they aren't going anywhere. The discussion about vaccines treating cancer is alive and well and will continue. 

 

And maybe it's best to keep an open mind and not dismiss everything as fake science. 

 

This just popped in my feeds. You can dismiss it as a giant "hoax" I guess ... 

 

Dr. Tony Hampton walks you through the new nanoparticle cancer vaccine study that stopped up to 88% of tumors in mice, and explains how it works by supercharging your natural killer cells and killer T cells.

 

 

The good white-coat talks the talk for sure. He even has the stethoscope round his neck to give him respectability. Or did he just forget to remove it.

 

I don't agree with much of what the guy says.

 

Cancer is not yer enemy. It occurs because there are certain things amiss. Better to investigate the root causes. Make sure that you give the body what it needs rather than what it don't want.

 

At least he mentioned diet and other life factors.

 

This white-coat is missing the whole point. The body don't do things to harm itself. We are nature in real time.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Maybe too complex to manage - vaccinating the entire population at once. 

So they had to cut corners. 

 

 

Actively censoring dissenting voices, removing millions of social media posts in real time, publishing convenient studies in short time frames to push a given message whilst refusing to publish the inconvenient ones, paying celebrities and social media influencers to parrot carefully worded propaganda slogans 24/7, removing uncompliant doctors' licences and putting out hitpieces against them in the media, implementing incentive mechanisms such as free food, staging jargon-addled 'expert' interventions in the media describing how being unvaccinated equates to being the less desirable of human archetypes, etc.… That's not cutting corners, quite the contrary, it's allocating a lot of time, energy and ressources towards a given goal.

 

 

12 hours ago, rumak said:

 

Another BIG reason i refuse to debate this nonsense with ..... well, anyone who was complicit with the tyrannical narratives and mandates which are still destroying the lives of the blind followers. 

 

And believe me .... IF the time comes again, and the same hammer comes down, but even harder .....even these  (just) followers will be the ones happy  to have a job ;   manning the jail cells you are put in.

 

for clarity, should read  " manning the jail cells WE anti-vaxxers are put in "

11 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Actively censoring dissenting voices

 

Dissenting voices are putting out a lot of misinformation and fear-mongering.

 

Like some of you guys claims "viruses don't exist", "cancer is your friend", "they killed all elderly people" , "vaccines cause cancer (unproven)", etc .... 

 

Then you wonder why they might want to censor you? They haven't censored you, though have they? 

 

I notice you guys always back each other up, even when making false statements. Like a good little cult. 

 

You're not as much interested in truthful statements and facts as attacking the powers that be. Anyone who attacks the powers that be is on your team, no matter how outrageous their claims are. 

 

13 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

for clarity, should read  " manning the jail cells WE anti-vaxxers are put in "

 

Did anyone put you in jail?

Why are you making false persecution claims? 

 

11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

He even has the stethoscope round his neck to give him respectability.

 

Or maybe it's because a stethoscope actually serves a purpose.

 

On 12/5/2025 at 8:57 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

The vaccines saved many millions of lives. You story does not provide any evidence that the vaccine was responsible for this guys death.

 

I just wish the ignore feature also removed their celebration of stupidity threads from showing up in my feed.

 

Would be nice if Thailand's anti-defamation laws also included anti-vaxx and anti-science nonsense like this, posted by people who got their medical info from other quacks just like them.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Did anyone put you in jail?

Why are you making false persecution claims? 

 

no reading comprehinsion skills .

Two flame posts removed 

 

@rumak

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Or maybe it's because a stethoscope actually serves a purpose.

 

Especially when his is trying to promote something to make even more $$$.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Especially when his is trying to promote something to make even more $$$.

 

 

In the UK we have the NHS, we don't pay for care, it is free, provided by national insurance and taxes.

 

Doctors carry the instruments they need to do their job at NHS hospitals, they get paid a wage.

 

Your agenda is now scraping the barrel, it is no wonder you were thrown out of medical school, you're nuts. 🤫

53 minutes ago, rumak said:

no reading comprehinsion skills .

 

sorry, maybe I missed your point.

I have 100 tabs open at the same time.

Multi-tasking is not recommended. 

 

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

Would be nice if Thailand's anti-defamation laws also included anti-vaxx and anti-science nonsense like this, posted by people who got their medical info from other quacks just like them.

 

Yeah, but censoring people has an opposite effect.

They may push back even harder and in more destructive ways.

 

Banning censorship is not always a good idea. Unless someone is calling for violence etc ... in extreme cases maybe it's justified. 

 

When there is dialogue, you get both sides of the issue and then you can decide for yourself which side you want to take.