1 hour ago, impulse said:

I know it's just anecdotal, or maybe my age bracket, but I know more people in my circle who have been diagnosed with cancer since Covid than in the first 60+ years of my life. 

 

Yes, it's anecdotal.

Association is not equal to causation.

And maybe you're just noticing more people with cancer because you are focusing your attention on it. 

 

The statistics do not back up your claims.

 

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/rise-under-50s-cancer-diagnoses-predates-covid-19-vaccines-2025-01-20/

 

EARLY-ONSET CANCER RISE PREDATES COVID

The causes of the rise detected for these cancers in younger people are unclear, but are the subject of research.

A 2023 study published in BMJ Oncology, opens new tab found the number of under-50s worldwide diagnosed with 29 types of cancer has risen by 79% over three decades, from 1.82 million in 1990 to 3.26 million in 2019.

 

 

4 hours ago, rumak said:

And will give some "yeah, sure...... there will always be some mistakes , but but but " sermon and justification .   And look for something in my presentation to try to make "the story" .    Like travelling or some nonsense. 

 

It usually ends with "I'm tired of the idiocy for today, I'm leaving"… coincidentally, often after having been put in a position where the next logical and honest step would be to concede that his position is not as clear and unequivocal as he previously stated… but we all know correlation does not mean causation, of course.

37 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I would have thought the 'higher educated and smarter' folk would not need an aid (especially from an inherently flawed tool which is still in its beta version) to articulate and formulate their ideas.

 

Colour me astonished…

TBH, Rattles, I don't use anything to help me do a post. The only time I might consult the www, is when I need a link. That's a rarity.

 

If I don't know it; I don't type it and post it.

 

It's important to remember that we grow up with words, and the education systems constantly reinforce their importance; The State; The Crown; The authorities; The government; The medical industry etc. They are simply people; like you and me. No better not worse. Have the same sleepless nights. Have the same hang-overs when they drink too much. Yet foolish people put poison into their bodies to make these people happy?! Even worse; some allow their babes, toddlers and kids to be injected with toxic filth. Why? Because they believed someone. They thought they knew what they were taking about. Well these people don't know what they are talking about. And they don't give a rat's about the populous.

 

The people have the power. People like us!! And through nature we can reach the ultimate goals of life.

 

10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It usually ends with "I'm tired of the idiocy for today, I'm leaving"… coincidentally, often after having been put in a position where the next logical and honest step would be to concede that his position is not as clear and unequivocal as he previously stated… but we all know correlation does not mean causation, of course.

 

I just stick with the oh so true classic :   "don't confuse education with intelligence " .

 

He could be in the running for the next "I'm jabbed and I'm proud" Poster Boy .    got my vote .....😉

19 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

And there's that 'education' word again - you are one of the most delusional people I have ever seen on this forum - there is you and ---------; both completely out of your minds & insane with unbelievable levels of idiocy and delusion. 

Big talk there Richard Sir. Big hard-hitting words. Delusional. Insane. Idiocy.

 

However; I am not as delusional as those putting toxic filth into, not only their own bodies, as if that wasn't bad enough, but letting poison be injected into their children and preggers women. Shame on them I say. And, being delusional is not a defence. Insanity could be though.

46 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

'Cause that's just the kinda guy that you are.  Laughing at other people's misfortune.

 

Typical, twist what I said, well done.....................

47 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are things out there to help them.

 

They must forst open their minds. Not so easy for soem.

😂..........I bet they have a spell check though...............😂

31 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

TBH, Rattles, I don't use anything to help me do a post. The only time I might consult the www, is when I need a link. That's a rarity.

 

AI-aided writing is bland, repetitive, devoid of semantic and rhetorical nuance, yet it does form a coherent, template-based package and has an initial appearance of tidiness and logic, which will appeal to a few people who struggle with written expression.

 

But to those who enjoy the beauty of language, it really is a depressing sight to see an AI-generated text. One of the most interesting things about language is that it reflects who the writer (or speaker) is. You can recognise most regular contributors of this forum just by reading their posts.

 

AI expression is the written equivalent of a production line in the sense that it efficiently delivers a preestablished model in the millions. But to a certain segment of the population, it still represents an upgrade and that is where the issue lies, in my view: it is nothing more than a collectivist tool in the sense that it improves mediocrity but precludes real quality.

 

I have only mentioned the form here, but the substance is another real problem.

2 hours ago, rumak said:

"Correlation is not causality"      and then talk about ice cream .

 

Correlation may not be causality, but I think it's a good reason to study what is causing it.  Whatever "it" is.

 

17 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Big talk there Richard Sir. Big hard-hitting words. Delusional. Insane. Idiocy.

 

However; I am not as delusional as those putting toxic filth into, not only their own bodies, as if that wasn't bad enough, but letting poison be injected into their children and preggers women. Shame on them I say. And, being delusional is not a defence. Insanity could be though.

You're just using toxic lies, put you in front of the world's scientists, they would laugh at you, and so they should........🤫

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Correlation may not be causality, but I think it's a good reason to study what is causing it.  Whatever "it" is.

 

 

It is a red fleg warranting investigation. That's why they have VAERS and the like. Were the red flags investigated? No.

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

Whatever "it" is.

Whatever it is it can't be the 'safe and effectives'

no not ever  no siree 'the science'  has said so..its settled nothing to discuss,doubt or think about..repeat again  'safe and effective'.  

47 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yes, it's anecdotal.

Association is not equal to causation.

And maybe you're just noticing more people with cancer because you are focusing your attention on it. 

 

The statistics do not back up your claims.

 

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/rise-under-50s-cancer-diagnoses-predates-covid-19-vaccines-2025-01-20/

 

EARLY-ONSET CANCER RISE PREDATES COVID

The causes of the rise detected for these cancers in younger people are unclear, but are the subject of research.

A 2023 study published in BMJ Oncology, opens new tab found the number of under-50s worldwide diagnosed with 29 types of cancer has risen by 79% over three decades, from 1.82 million in 1990 to 3.26 million in 2019.

Out of curiosity, what percentage of Reuters advertising revenue comes from Big Pharma? 

 

And have you looked anywhere to see if there are studies that draw other conclusions, or are you taking their word on it?  Or any studies that show whether the rate of increase has accelerated since 2019?

 

And, of course, that begs the bigger question, "Where were the CDC and WHO when the rate of cancer was increasing that much?"

 

The wingnut in me recalls some studies that said they were getting better at diagnosing the cancers earlier, but that didn't result in better outcomes.  Just more time to squeeze money out of patients.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

You're just using toxic lies, put you in front of the world's scientists, they would laugh at you, and so they should........🤫

On the subjects of viruses, diseases and vaccines, I would easily hold my own Trans buddy. I used to do it back in the 1990s. Both in England and the Caribbean.

 

You think these white-coat 'experts' know what they are talking about? Take away the $$$ and they would be probably be stacking shelves in their local supermarket.

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

On the subjects of viruses, diseases and vaccines, I would easily hold my own Trans buddy. I used to do it back in the 1990s. Both in England and the Caribbean.

 

You think these white-coat 'experts' know what they are talking about? Take away the $$$ and they would be probably be stacking shelves in their local supermarket.

So you know better than the WORLDS scientific white coats and argue about it all day on a Thai English speaking forum.

 

Now that is funny, it seems you and your ilk have got nowhere............................😂

21 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

That's why they have VAERS and the like. Were the red flags investigated?

Not only not investigated  now they say VAERS  is totally useless

never intended for the purpose it was set up for ! 

but have no alternatives...just 'trust the science bro'

we know our stuff   you plebs shut up.,, we have degrees from esteemed institutions how dare you question us. 

55 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I have only mentioned the form here, but the substance is another real problem.

 

So true.  If Wikipedia and Google are any indication, AI will be corrupted by moneyed interests that will pay to train it to parrot their narrative.

43 minutes ago, impulse said:

The wingnut in me recalls some studies that said they were getting better at diagnosing the cancers earlier, but that didn't result in better outcomes.  Just more time to squeeze money out of patients.

 

I'm quoting myself here to clarify.  That was in reference to specific cancers, not all of them.  Early detection has been a Godsend for many cancers.  But others, not so much.

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm quoting myself here to clarify.  That was in reference to specific cancers, not all of them.  Early detection has been a Godsend for many cancers.  But others, not so much.

My chum is now 83, he has had cancer from just before Covid, he has had all the Covid jabs since, he is still with us, not much left of him, but he was given 6 months to live when he was told he had cancer.....🤗

 

You keep on stirring the pot...............😉

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

So true.  If Wikipedia and Google are any indication, AI will be corrupted by moneyed interests that will pay to train it to parrot their narrative.

 

Here is an example from yesterday, it is off-topic but I am making a brief tangential aside to illustrate my point. I asked Google AI if my native country, France, needed more immigration, and this was the response. It was then developed in more detail, but the gist of the message is in this opening paragraph.

At no point does Google AI mention natalist policies, a proven and effective way to resolve the issue of ageing population, in the possible options going forward.

So there you have it, we are merely dealing with a database filled with biased, selected information, and nothing more.

 

Just now, transam said:

My chum is now 83, he has had cancer from just before Covid, he has had all the Covid jabs since, he is still with us, not much left of him, but he was given 6 months to live when he was told he had cancer.....🤗

 

You keep on stirring the pot...............😉

 

And therefore the vaccine works! Mic drop!

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

And therefore the vaccine works! Mic drop!

Correct, he never had Covid, nor did I, or if he did, he/we didn't know.............

Not an anti-vaxer but if I could go back I would not take the Covid jabs again. Dangerous stuff that personally caused issues. 

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm quoting myself here to clarify.  That was in reference to specific cancers, not all of them.  Early detection has been a Godsend for many cancers.  But others, not so much.

 

Good article on that specific issue where most AI programs are being programmed to not consider all sources and push answers that are aligned with the 'accepted narrative'

> https://www.malone.news/p/how-often-do-ais-lie-and-censor

 

For subjects where the AI program might have an agenda, I use Alter-Ai  < alter.systems  >. 

The free version of Alter-AI will allow you to make 10 queries daily, which will be more than sufficient for non-professional users. 

 And the clarity, transparency of the program's responses stands in stark contrast with Grok or ChatGPT, especially when you have a query on controversial subjects like vaccines, excess mortality, etc.  

Give it a try...

14 minutes ago, transam said:

19 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'm quoting myself here to clarify.  That was in reference to specific cancers, not all of them.  Early detection has been a Godsend for many cancers.  But others, not so much.

My chum is now 83, he has had cancer from just before Covid, he has had all the Covid jabs since, he is still with us, not much left of him, but he was given 6 months to live when he was told he had cancer...

 

On the flipside my BIL was recently diagnosed with a glioblastoma.  I'm oversimplifying, but they looked on a chart at the size of the tumor and estimated his life expectancy at 14-18 months.  Had they found it earlier and smaller, he'd still die, but not as quick.  If they had found it later and bigger, he'd still die, but quicker.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Correct, he never had Covid, nor did I, or if he did, he/we didn't know.............

 

A truly heartwarming story, here you go, well deserved and please be sure to show it proudly everywhere you go.

 

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It is a red fleg warranting investigation. That's why they have VAERS and the like. Were the red flags investigated? No.

 

well, the red flags were waved mightily by a few smart and brave doctors and virologists .    Were they villlified and slandered and censored for their service in finding the truth ?        Damn right !

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

A truly heartwarming story, here you go, well deserved and please be sure to show it proudly everywhere you go.

 

No need to, if I caught Covid, I didn't know, the vax did it for transam..........

2 minutes ago, transam said:

No need to, if I caught Covid, I didn't know, the vax did it for transam..........

 

Same for me, with the 'small' difference that I am not-vaxxed and if I caught Covid, I didn't know it (and as I never even had a cold during the whole scamdemic, chances are small that I did catch it). 

So NOT being vaxxed did it for Red Phoenix...

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

 

Same for me, with the 'small' difference that I am not-vaxxed and if I caught Covid, I didn't know it (and as I never even had a cold during the whole scamdemic, chances are small that I did catch it). 

So NOT being vaxxed did it for Red Phoenix...

Good for you, and thanks for wearing a mask...........