9 hours ago, Khyron said:

but that is just it, they ride before they should,

They are considered "fully developed" at 13 / 14  when they are allowed to leave school,  they are no different at whatever age they take to the roads, Like most women they never become good drivers

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Like most women they never become good drivers

 

 

14 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I am convinced that the first thing many Thais do after obtaining their "zero deposit" motorcycles is to remove the front and rear lights, but have yet to establish why

However the motorbike involved in this accident DID have it's front light on, contrary to the pick-up driver's words. 

M/C driving too fast, pick-up not looking before turning.

13 hours ago, Isaner said:

Two problems/issues here:

 

1. intersection is well lit, motorcycle appears out of the dark with minimal front light - difficult to see for the pick-up driver

 

2. Motorcycle is driving in the center of the road, if he (the 13 year old driver) would have stayed on the right side of the road, the accident would not have happened.

 

This Is the reason I avoid driving in Thailand at night, only in the vicinity. 

 

Note to Impulse: driver was 13 years old, 5 more years to get a driving license for a car

I assume that by 'the right side of the road' you mean the left!

IF IF IF. The bike had been going a few kph slower, or faster, and the pick-up had turned a few seconds earlier, or later, the accident would not have happened.

5 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

However the motorbike involved in this accident DID have it's front light on,

"however" opinion appears to be divided regarding that , furthermore I was commenting generally and not specifically about this incident.   I thought that was pretty clear And it seems it was , except to you

14 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

Anybody actually watch the CCTV? 🤔

 

Clearly the driver of the pickup is responsible as he did not give way to the oncoming motorbike before making a right turn

 

The pick-up was following the road, he had the right of way but anyone that is not local would not know that, the lane that the motorcycle was on is the merging lane, but since it has recently been surfaced there are no lines to depict that, if you look at the right of the picture you can see the white lines on the main road disappearing under the tarmac, motorcycle was wrong on so many counts.

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

"however" opinion appears to be divided regarding that , furthermore I was commenting generally and not specifically about this incident.   I thought that was pretty clear And it seems it was , except to you

What are you on about?

The m/c headlight can be clearly seen on the CCTV content, and would have been much more visible to anyone (the p-up driver) directly in front of it.

Fault on both drivers parts,  but, for me, the p-up driver turned into the path of the m/c, which was being illegally driven, probably too fast.

7 minutes ago, LennyW said:

The pick-up was following the road, he had the right of way but anyone that is not local would not know that, the lane that the motorcycle was on is the merging lane, but since it has recently been surfaced there are no lines to depict that, if you look at the right of the picture you can see the white lines on the main road disappearing under the tarmac, motorcycle was wrong on so many counts.

Utter rubbish.

You assume that the two parties involved were local and should have known the road layout, with or without painted lines, which were not visible.. I know that if I were driving as the m/c was, I would have gone straight on,as it did. 

13 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

It all happened so fast. The motorbike was in the middle of road and came out of darkness at what looks like at high speeds. even so that looks like a properly dangerous intersection which probably has accidents often. If the motorbike was more to the left and going at slower speeds I think they could have avoided the collision.

No, IF the m/c was more to the left, he would have hit the errant p-up head on. IF the p-up had delayed his turning, no accident. IF the road markings had been painted the day before, maybe no accident. 

3 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

Utter rubbish.

You assume that the two parties involved were local and should have known the road layout, with or without painted lines, which were not visible.. I know that if I were driving as the m/c was, I would have gone straight on,as it did. 

Then you also would have been in the wrong.

I did not assume anything, i just know the actual road layout there.

4 minutes ago, LennyW said:

Then you also would have been in the wrong.

I did not assume anything, i just know the actual road layout there.

Bully for you. What about the thousands of us who DO NOT know the actual road layout there? And have no 'guiding' lines or stop signs to indicate who has the right of way..........the road with the right turn or the straight on.

3 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

Bully for you. What about the thousands of us who DO NOT know the actual road layout there? And have no 'guiding' lines or stop signs to indicate who has the right of way..........the road with the right turn or the straight on.

Then you should proceed with caution if you are unfamiliar,

4 minutes ago, LennyW said:

Then you should proceed with caution if you are unfamiliar,

That would bring the average road speeds down a bit.

32 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

 

Fault on both drivers parts,  but, for me, the p-up driver turned into the path of the m/c, which was being illegally driven, probably too fast.

Fault is on the scooter, should have given way.

4 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Fault is on the scooter, should have given way.

Rubbish. But you are entitled to your opinion. 

6 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

Rubbish. But you are entitled to your opinion. 

Wrong again unfortunately.

Off topic posts about masturbation removed.

 

This is the  news section and does not need the constant off topic trolling

 

 

15 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

Anybody actually watch the CCTV? 🤔

Clearly the driver of the pickup is responsible as he did not give way to the oncoming motorbike before making a right turn

 

 

Shhh. The finger  pointing brigade was out in full force on this. You are correct, but it is easier to blame the kids.

 

14 hours ago, Isaner said:

Two problems/issues here:

 

1. intersection is well lit, motorcycle appears out of the dark with minimal front light - difficult to see for the pick-up driver

 

2. Motorcycle is driving in the center of the road, if he (the 13 year old driver) would have stayed on the right side of the road, the accident would not have happened.

 

This Is the reason I avoid driving in Thailand at night, only in the vicinity. 

Note to Impulse: driver was 13 years old, 5 more years to get a driving license for a car

 

The motorcycle was in the correct lane.

The  pickup truck cut across the motorcycle lane. The vehicle traversing the lane is  expected to yield for the oncoming traffic. It did not do so in this tragedy and is responsible.

 

Just now, Patong2021 said:

 

 

 

 

 

The motorcycle was in the correct lane.

The  pickup truck cut across the motorcycle lane. 

 

 

do you know that particular intersection ?

The pickup had right of way

8 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

 

Shhh. The finger  pointing brigade was out in full force on this. You are correct, but it is easier to blame the kids.

 

 

The motorcycle was in the correct lane.

The  pickup truck cut across the motorcycle lane. The vehicle traversing the lane is  expected to yield for the oncoming traffic. It did not do so in this tragedy and is responsible.

 

Sorry, that is not correct. As i have previously explained .... That is a <deleted>ty junction, many locals know the right of way is the route the pick-up took, but since the other lane has been recently tarred it mistakenly looks like that lane has right of way, no clear road markings. There are a few junctions like that unfortunately.

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Artisi said:

Not joking, have you ever noticed bikes with clear tail-light in place of red - that's to fool the ghosts - they follow the red light as you are heading home, white light your leaving home. 

 

This is crazy.

 

However, I will now be on the look-out for these clear tail-lights.

 

Any other strange things you might report will be most appreciated, concerning lights on vehicles designed or modified to fool ghosts, only, of course.

 

 

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

This is crazy.

 

However, I will now be on the look-out for these clear tail-lights.

 

Any other strange things you might report will be most appreciated, concerning lights on vehicles designed or modified to fool ghosts, only, of course.

 

 

some lads round here have red bulbs in their headlight.

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

do you know that particular intersection ?

The pickup had right of way

 

How can a vehicle have right of way crossing lanes?

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

My post is rubbish because the scoot rider did not follow the sign post and give way ?

 

Thats some next level idiot logic you are running their champ, did you get an A in school for your stupidity ?

As you have said several times, YOU know the junction, and the local's priorities. But a total stranger to that junction would, as I would, go straight on if coming from the direction of the m/c, not expecting a p-up to turn across me.  You mentioned some kind of stop or give-way sign. From the CCTV that cannot be seen. Did the p-up have his winkers going? 

17 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I am convinced that the first thing many Thais do after obtaining their "zero deposit" motorcycles is to remove the front and rear lights, but have yet to establish why

The bike had a light on, the truck turned into the bike's path................🤫

13 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

How can a vehicle have right of way crossing lanes?

The pickup is following the road not crossing lanes, unfortunately the newly tarred road to the left of the picture is an adjoining road, but because of the recent surfacing the lane markings have been covered.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

The bike had a light on, the truck turned into the bike's path................🤫

So what ? as I replied to another "challenged " member, I was commenting generally , obvious to all except just two on here,  Now run along and stop wasting my time ,   maybe read the above post regarding "right of way"

16 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Those teenagers will learn nothing, grow up to be adults then have their own teenagers who will do the same thing. Such a pity because otherwise it's a lovely culture.

Well nowhere is perfect , just have to learn to take the good with the bad, it aint changing anytime soon

10 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So what ? as I replied to another "challenged " member, I was commenting generally , obvious to all except just two on here,  Now run along and stop wasting my time ,   maybe read the above post regarding "right of way"

The truck TURNED into the path of the bike which had a light on, even I can see the bike coming........🤫

Sorry I wasted your time with my opinion, especially the light on bit..😒

12 hours ago, Khyron said:

When I am in the Ampur early, I just shake my head at the kids riding to the high school, 3-4 up, not a helmet in sight. They pass the cops who ignore them.

What ever happened to the helmet law? Looks like that went out the door when it became inconvenient.

95% no helmet here, just my wife and I, almost.

 

The helmet law seems only to be enforced to foreigners, who all are expected to carry plenty of cash for immediate payment.