1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

All right so let me try to understand this, it's illegal to push a car out of the way in order to avoid perpetrating violence, but it's not illegal to murder an unarmed civilian.

Can you explain that one to me?

You don't know what murder is, is the only explanation.

Yes, he kept shooting even when he was beside the car (not in front). But the main question is not really where he was standing. The main question is why did he shoot at her AT ALL? He just video recorded her license plate.. The guy has been with ICE for 10 years, and he stands in front of the car (wrong), and then he shoots the driver as she tries to drive away.. B-grade Hollywood stuff. These guys are just goons. If a ten year veteran is that badly trained - imagine the mouth breathers that are joining with very little training.

The streets in Blue cities are getting hot. Protestors and now simply not given way to police or ICE as both sides become increasingly hostile and violent.

I think the Good murder is going to be the catalyst that sets off a literal civil war. I'm thinking it's not going to take much to trigger a hot revolt on US streets. Sorta like how the US likes to fabricate color revolutions in foreign countries. Karma? I'm thinking maybe. Stand-by...

Glad I live in Thailand. The US West coast cities that I use to call home may well become domestic war zones.

4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/696635/neither-party-dominates-favorability-trust.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Not exactly a huge difference.

The both suck. This is the problem with two-party systems. When both sides become intolerable and the electorate is too dumb to vote outside of the Blue-Red uniparty.

59 minutes ago, jvs said:

Maybe what she did was illegal,does that deserve instant death?

No, but giving the military and cops the latitude to engage in summary execution is pretty much the hallmark of totalitarian regimes. The US under President Trump, imho, has arrived.
Given the murder of Good and the summary executions of sailors on the high seas, and for that matter, anywhere where the US decides to summarily execute anyone they want with a AGM-114 Hellfire missile. I'm thinking we are not far from having US cops and federal agents opening up live fire on protestors whom they claim are "threatening their lives."

👮‍♂️👮 "That group of protestors made us fear for our lives, some of them had cars they aimed at us, so we had to mow them down with automatic weapon - self-defense!"

18 minutes ago, connda said:

The streets in Blue cities are getting hot. Protestors and now simply not given way to police or ICE as both sides become increasingly hostile and violent.

I think the Good murder is going to be the catalyst that sets off a literal civil war. I'm thinking it's not going to take much to trigger a hot revolt on US streets. Sorta like how the US likes to fabricate color revolutions in foreign countries. Karma? I'm thinking maybe. Stand-by...

Glad I live in Thailand. The US West coast cities that I use to call home may well become domestic war zones.

Wishful thinking much?

Why are ICE thugs MASKED , what are they hiding , are they ashamed , seems they are just state enforced murderers and executioners let loose on the streets of OLIGARCH USA

It’s both fair and right to expect a higher standard from law enforcement officers - especially when it comes to fear and decision-making under pressure.

If someone chooses a role that carries the power of life and death, part of being fit for that role means being able to manage fear rather than act from it. Pilots, firefighters, and soldiers all train extensively to push past panic because lives depend on their composure. The same should hold true for police officers. If an officer’s fear overrides their ability to make sound, measured choices, that’s not a defense of their actions - it’s a sign that more training or even a career change might be necessary. It means they are cowards.

We can acknowledge the complexity of these situations without excusing a standard where fear justifies deadly force. Accountability isn’t anti-police - it’s pro-human life.

Civil war - one step at a time. The authoritarian steps were a bit stealthy at the beginning - a year ago (or at the Capitol before that), but now they are barely concealed. When or what is the tipping point? No idea.

Worldwide, these tipping points - and their consequences - just happen on their own, unpredictable but deadly and devastating for all when the tipping point is realized.

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

The guy has been with ICE for 10 years, and he stands in front of the car (wrong), and then he shoots the driver as she tries to drive away.. B-grade Hollywood stuff.

As I posted different topic:

NB 2: The real liability here may lie not with the shooter but with the ICE/DHS supervision entity that may have allowed J. Ross to be on active duty following his dragging incident and should have still been on desk duty. This may explain why an otherwise experienced and well-trained officer made a rookie mistake by standing in front of the car.

Law enforcement doesn't leave an active crime scene. Law enforcement doesn't shoot someone dead, and then just ups and leaves.

That just doesn't happen. So I don't know what that makes them. At the very least, they're criminally incompetent, but based on all the videos coming in every day it looks like they're Trump's private American gestapo.

Let's hope the US survives Trump 2.0 so that Nuremberg 2.0 can be organized.

On 1/11/2026 at 3:44 PM, spidermike007 said:

All right so let me try to understand this, it's illegal to push a car out of the way in order to avoid perpetrating violence, but it's not illegal to murder an unarmed civilian.

Can you explain that one to me?

I think that would be impossible - explaining logic and facts to someone who is all emotions and feelings.

Just now, XRules said:

I think that would be impossible - explaining logic and facts to someone who is all emotions and feelings.

Why don't you go ahead and try giving me your version of the facts.

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Why don't you go ahead and try giving me your version of the facts.

There is no 'version of the facts' - facts are facts - and they dont care about your feelings. Which proves exactly what I said.

22 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Law enforcement doesn't leave an active crime scene. Law enforcement doesn't shoot someone dead, and then just ups and leaves.

That just doesn't happen. So I don't know what that makes them. At the very least, they're criminally incompetent, but based on all the videos coming in every day it looks like they're Trump's private American gestapo.

Let's hope the US survives Trump 2.0 so that Nuremberg 2.0 can be organized.

What a load of khrapp - Gestapo? Nuremberg? Woke liberals are insane to make those sort of claims.

The ICE Officers have had enough - harassment, obstruction, and doxing (and their families). IMO Trump should send in the National Guard to detain anyone who gets in the way of ICE or harasses them - which is a Federal Offence. Probably happen soon and that could not come quick enough.

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On 1/12/2026 at 5:12 PM, XRules said:

What a load of khrapp - Gestapo? Nuremberg? Woke liberals are insane to make those sort of claims.

The ICE Officers have had enough - harassment, obstruction, and doxing (and their families). IMO Trump should send in the National Guard to detain anyone who gets in the way of ICE or harasses them - which is a Federal Offence. Probably happen soon and that could not come quick enough.

Looks like the National Guard are about to be deployed. Perhaps even the military?

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