3 hours ago, transam said:

Your version is a complete falsehood, and you look stupid posting it.........................😬

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/16/us/video/ac360dereklum

No it is not. The handsome Devon Lum, may have been there more for eye candy than as an actual expert. He has put together videos, and they do line up with his narrative, but there is a fundamental deficiency that renders the exercise unreliable: The time stamps are not lined up. His analysis does not include a timeline with the images compared at each second. Nor does his analysis take into consideration the impact of events on the human beings involved. It is easy for the untrained to offer an opinion, and Mr. Lum is not a forensic event reconstructionist,nor is he an accredited engineer. It is no different than people who put together videos of the WTC catastrophe and claimed there was no aircraft impact.

I don't doubt Lum's good intentions, but he comes to the table with an established bias and no actual training in forensic investigation. I will be the first to join you in condemnation of the agent, should the investigation support such a conclusion.

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Thats under investigation , the left is truly evil,Don Lemon was a activist pretending to be a reporter.

"The Department of Justice Civil Rights Division is investigating anti-Immigration & Customs Enforcement protesters for storming a church service".

The AG Bondi responds. Its seems like the extremists are button pushing. How often do you see Marxist shutting down a church service!

Google ai overview:

"Minnesota Anti-ICE Protest (January 2026): In January 2026, protesters from the Racial Justice Network and Black Lives Matter Minnesota interrupted a Sunday service at Cities Church in St. Paul".

15 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

No it is not. The handsome Devon Lum, may have been there more for eye candy than as an actual expert. He has put together videos, and they do line up with his narrative, but there is a fundamental deficiency that renders the exercise unreliable: The time stamps are not lined up. His analysis does not include a timeline with the images compared at each second. Nor does his analysis take into consideration the impact of events on the human beings involved. It is easy for the untrained to offer an opinion, and Mr. Lum is not a forensic event reconstructionist,nor is he an accredited engineer. It is no different than people who put together videos of the WTC catastrophe and claimed there was no aircraft impact.

I don't doubt Lum's good intentions, but he comes to the table with an established bias and no actual training in forensic investigation. I will be the first to join you in condemnation of the agent, should the investigation support such a conclusion.

Weeeell, that lot is not a very good excuse when we can ALL watch the detailed video, but you carry on, Trump may have a Gold something or other for you, for your daft efforts.......

The USA was founded on the back of a violent insurrection.

So let’s quit with this ‘only peaceful protest’ garbage, the very founding of the nation is evidence that popular protest is its own and only legitimacy.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The USA was founded on the back of a violent insurrection.

So let’s quit with this ‘only peaceful protest’ garbage, the very founding of the nation is evidence that popular protest is its own and only legitimacy.

And in one unintended swoop of rhetorical bombast you have excused the events of Jan. 6 that you previously condemned.

The big difference here is that the unlike the circumstances of revolutionary USA, the People of the United States, in order to establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to themselves and their Posterity, did authorize the US Congress to enact and to enforce laws on their behalf.

The people protesting do not like the laws and rather than respect the democratic and legal processes afforded to them, have chosen to disrupt the general peace and order of society.These are the same people who enabled a multibillion dollar systemic fraud and theft of funds by the communities they wish to enable to continue to violate the laws of the USA.

You will find that the people who have to pay for the billions of social assistance $$ illegally disbursed in Minnesota do not agree with you.

On 1/20/2026 at 10:58 AM, Patong2021 said:

And in one unintended swoop of rhetorical bombast you have excused the events of Jan. 6 that you previously condemned.

The big difference here is that the unlike the circumstances of revolutionary USA, the People of the United States, in order to establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to themselves and their Posterity, did authorize the US Congress to enact and to enforce laws on their behalf.

The people protesting do not like the laws and rather than respect the democratic and legal processes afforded to them, have chosen to disrupt the general peace and order of society.These are the same people who enabled a multibillion dollar systemic fraud and theft of funds by the communities they wish to enable to continue to violate the laws of the USA.

You will find that the people who have to pay for the billions of social assistance $$ illegally disbursed in Minnesota do not agree with you.

It would take a particular twisted view of my statement to claim it justifies the J6 attempt to overthrow the election.

J6 was not a protest, it was an attempt to keep Trump in power.

let’s put a pin in that ‘what people agree or don’t agree with’ we’ll come back to it after the mid terms, if Trump doesn’t cancel them.

More fuel to the fire:

Recent antiICE protests in Minnesota, including violent resistance to federal agents,

broader claims of lawlessness in Dem controlled areas,historical/current referencing of the Insurrection Act against protests/riots in such areas.

Partisan debates over protest tactics, agency enforcement, church disruptions by groups like BLM/Racial Justice Network, and related investigations

DHS reports antiICE protesters allegedly vandalizing a CBP K9 dog's feed chart (ICE OUT) at a Minneapolis area kennel ,directly tied to the same wave of Minnesota antiICE actions .

The far left's hunger to save the oppressed /foreign national criminals has gone to the DOGS.

Many foreign national don't get to reside in the states if ICE finds that you manipulated the truth on your citizen apps.

"In 1996, an immigration judge denied a Chinese alien’s asylum claim and ordered him to leave the United States. He remained in our country illegally, but

@ICEgov

will finally get to deport him after being arrested at our West Palm Beach office. . When you have been lawfully denied multiple times, you can’t keep filing new applications".

https://x.com/USCIS/status/2014060045953057008?s=20

1 minute ago, riclag said:

More fuel to the fire:

Recent antiICE protests in Minnesota, including violent resistance to federal agents,

broader claims of lawlessness in Dem controlled areas,historical/current referencing of the Insurrection Act against protests/riots in such areas.

Partisan debates over protest tactics, agency enforcement, church disruptions by groups like BLM/Racial Justice Network, and related investigations

DHS reports antiICE protesters allegedly vandalizing a CBP K9 dog's feed chart (ICE OUT) at a Minneapolis area kennel ,directly tied to the same wave of Minnesota antiICE actions .

The far left's hunger to save the oppressed /foreign national criminals has gone to the DOGS.

Oh my holy motherflippin' gawd, they "vandalized" a dog's Feed chart?? Of all the evil, despicable, monstrous acts that these monsters have committed, this tops it!!!

Look at K-9 "Dina". She looks absolutely traumatized!!!

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